Using flatten for me results in a very angry red and yellow mess. I run my 
input signal fairly hot, though. Around 60dB or so. It seems that flatten can't 
handle high input levels.


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From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 11:20 AM
To: WSJT software development
Cc: Black Michael
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem

The "Flatten" option on the waterfall solves that problem too.
But not for the fast graph.
Are you using the fast graph or is there some reason not to use Flatten for you?

de Mike W9MDB


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From: George J Molnar <geo...@molnar.com>
To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem

Vote for retention of the slider. Switching bands often calls for readjusting 
the waterfall, and the slider is a convenient, easy to understand tool.

I wouldn't mind moving it away from the thermometer, to clarify the proper 
function. It isn't really difficult to grasp, though!

George J Molnar, KF2T
Nevada, USA


On Jul 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Dan Malcolm 
<dan.malcol...@gmail.com<mailto:dan.malcol...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Mike, Bill,
FWIW I’d like to keep the slider.  I like the idea of encouraging users to read 
the manual.

From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:37 PM
To: WSJT software development 
<wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Cc: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com<mailto:mdblac...@yahoo.com>>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem

There were those that still wanted the waterfall adjustment for the fast graph 
handy so leaving it as an option would be the only solution.

I submitted some tooltip changes a while ago to make it pretty much 
in-your-face on the meter tooltip.
Then we need to spice up the documentation so be more in-your-face too.  
"Transceiver setup" as an index title is not intuitive but hopefully most know 
how to use search for keywords.  I tried to see if you could put a hyperlink in 
a tool tip but appears not.  Though about doing a ctrl-click on the meter or 
such to bring up the relevant section in the manual then put the ctrl-click 
info in the tooltip.

de Mike W9MDB

________________________________
From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com<mailto:g4...@classdesign.com>>
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem

On 18/07/2017 23:32, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
I'd say the vast majority have no use for the slider anymore.
So let's hide it by default and have an enable checkbox in the config.

I'll do that patch if you think that's acceptable...we'll still end up with 
"what happened to..." but se la vie...
Hi Mike,
if you are going to do a patch then remove the slider altogether, that is 
probably the best option. It is of limited value and will always be 
misunderstood by many who don't understand the underlying realities of digital 
samples. Unfortunately the result may well be that those who miss the slider 
will revert to using the operating system sliders which are effectively the 
same thing and equally pointless (even harmful at extreme settings) as the 
WSJT-X slider.

73
Bill
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