Mike, you're right. Previous experiences with “Flatten” had led me to not use
it for a long time. Just tested using it, and it is much better than I recall,
and quite satisfactory!
I respectfully withdraw my support for slider retention.
PS - I do use the fast graph frequently, but can adjust without difficulty.
George J Molnar, KF2T
Nevada, USA
> On Jul 19, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel
> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
> The "Flatten" option on the waterfall solves that problem too.
> But not for the fast graph.
> Are you using the fast graph or is there some reason not to use Flatten for
> you?
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>
> From: George J Molnar <geo...@molnar.com>
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 10:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem
>
> Vote for retention of the slider. Switching bands often calls for readjusting
> the waterfall, and the slider is a convenient, easy to understand tool.
>
> I wouldn't mind moving it away from the thermometer, to clarify the proper
> function. It isn't really difficult to grasp, though!
>
> George J Molnar, KF2T
> Nevada, USA
>
>
>> On Jul 19, 2017, at 8:49 AM, Dan Malcolm <dan.malcol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>
> Mike, Bill,
> FWIW I’d like to keep the slider. I like the idea of encouraging users to
> read the manual.
>
> From: Black Michael via wsjt-devel [mailto:wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 10:37 PM
> To: WSJT software development <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Cc: Black Michael <mdblac...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem
>
> There were those that still wanted the waterfall adjustment for the fast
> graph handy so leaving it as an option would be the only solution.
>
> I submitted some tooltip changes a while ago to make it pretty much
> in-your-face on the meter tooltip.
> Then we need to spice up the documentation so be more in-your-face too.
> "Transceiver setup" as an index title is not intuitive but hopefully most
> know how to use search for keywords. I tried to see if you could put a
> hyperlink in a tool tip but appears not. Though about doing a ctrl-click on
> the meter or such to bring up the relevant section in the manual then put the
> ctrl-click info in the tooltip.
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
> From: Bill Somerville <g4...@classdesign.com>
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Ver 1.8 RC1 audio in slider problem
>
> On 18/07/2017 23:32, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> I'd say the vast majority have no use for the slider anymore.
> So let's hide it by default and have an enable checkbox in the config.
>
> I'll do that patch if you think that's acceptable...we'll still end up with
> "what happened to..." but se la vie...
> Hi Mike,
> if you are going to do a patch then remove the slider altogether, that is
> probably the best option. It is of limited value and will always be
> misunderstood by many who don't understand the underlying realities of
> digital samples. Unfortunately the result may well be that those who miss the
> slider will revert to using the operating system sliders which are
> effectively the same thing and equally pointless (even harmful at extreme
> settings) as the WSJT-X slider.
>
> 73
> Bill
> G4WJS.
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