Hi Bill - they're not just "testing" they're trouncing on existing digital
mode watering holes without any real regard to anyone around them.  The lack
of consideration to others is simply astounding.  

I've said my peace on this. 

Jim S. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Somerville [mailto:g4...@classdesign.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:13 AM
To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] DXpedition mode: dissapointed somehow

On 14/03/2018 10:24, James Shaver (N2ADV) wrote:
> TY7C should not have even been using DXPedition Mode. 

Hi Jim,

why not?

https://ty2018dx.wordpress.com/

and check their QRZ.COM page.

They are not some random OM playing with FT8 DXpedition mode on the normal
FT8 sub-bands. Benin may not be in the top 10 most wanted list but that's
fine. If a DXpedition team want to try out FT8 DXpedition mode and are fully
aware of the caveats about making sure that callers know how to work them
etc. then their brave attempt to try out an as yet unpolished feature of
WSJT-X is fine. They may lose some QSOs as a result but they may well
provide valuable feedback. It is a little unfortunate that their operation
dates coincide with a version of WSJT-X
(v1.9.0-rc2) that has several known defects, picked up in the public tests
recently, that have been fixed but not yet released.

With respect to Uwe's disappointment, I'm not sure if the F6KOP team have
limited power or are just starting cautiously with only one Tx slot. They
can still potentially complete 120 QSOs/hr with one slot. 
Note that using N slots greater than one means reduced power per QSO with
signals being ~14dB down with N slots equal to five. I note in their blog
post that they are having success with FT8 DXpedition mode but find they are
hearing callers better than they are being heard, possibly as a result of
trying N slots > 1.

73
Bill
G4WJS.


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