Hi Mike,

comments in line below.

On 14/03/2018 12:46, [email protected] wrote:
Thanks Bill... but the point is people are NOT being respectful of others.  And for the record, I never claimed that anyone 'owned' any give frequency, but we have lived by a gentleman's agreement for all of the 43 years I have been a ham - and people mostly respected that agreement.  That's all we ask.
I agree with band plans but when new modes become popular with many more users than some existing ones and there is no free space then something has to give. It is not an easy circle to square.

As for national organizations, the ARRL has sold out on us and are totally worthless.  And even if they weren't, what power do they have to fix it?
I don't buy this. Are you confusing band allocations with band plans? The ARRL and other national societies and the IARU are absolutely the right place to request band plan changes, if not that we are not the gentlemen that the Gentlemen's Agreement that are the band plans require. If the ARRL is broken then fix it, they are just Amateur Radio operators that have taken on a role not some official government body.

The point is not to complain, but to try to draw attention to the fact that there is a problem.  If it's not brought to the attention of the people who use the mode (and develop the software), how will it every get fixed.  This all started when the 17 meter PSK frequency was claimed as the FT8 anchor frequency and it's been going down hill ever since.
The developers of new modes make efforts to try and fit into band plans, a near impossible task BTW, but can't always satisfy everyone.

Face facts, the FT8 users would be equally upset if someone moved into their segment and started operating RTTY or some other digital mode. PSK uses a total of about 2 KHz per band; how about a little respect for that tiny wedge.
I will agree the situation on 17m is unfortunate and probably my fault for which I apologize, sorry. For sure some time in the next 10 years when we might get some decent global propagation back on the HF bands it needs resolving.

Mike
WM4B

73
Bill
G4WJS.


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