Eric, the frustration in your email is visceral and leads me to one
question:

When did you last pay for an SLA in relation to wsprnet?


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On Tue., 15 Oct. 2019, 08:37 Eric NO3M, <n...@no3m.net> wrote:

> This kind of ignorant response is frankly infuriating and in itself shows
> why wsprnet.org is going to hell to put it kindly....
>
> I am very active in the LF/MF community and WSPR is heavily used for
> propagation studies, realtime band opening indication, etc.  Ask anyone in
> at least the US and VK LF/MF community what they think of wsprnet.org...
>
> There are definitely spots that never make their way to the database,
> numerous in fact.  The poor system performance is a recurring topic in the
> LF/MF chat group.  Almost nightly someone complains about slow response or
> that the database part of the site just simply will not load.  You can't
> definitively say all spots are being imported into the database... from the
> site's vantage point there is no way of knowing what is missed due to the
> site being unreachable when those lost spots are coming in.
>
> The "database" part of the site is very often extremely slow to load or
> never loads at all.  Eventually, without fail, on a daily basis, the page
> will fail to load when left open in a browser tab when it attempts to auto
> refresh.
>
> I understand you are not part of the technical team, but perhaps the ones
> responsible can be given the message loud and clear and not continue to
> assume all is fine.  The site (specifically the database infrastructure)
> needs serious intervention.  The folks that are responsible for maintaining
> the site's functional integrity have failed miserably.  Time to step up or
> pass the responsibility on to a competent team.
>
> 73 Eric NO3M
>
>
>
>
>
> On 10/14/19 3:45 PM, Erwin Serle via wsjt-devel wrote:
>
> Not sure why you come to these conclusions, the website is not slow, it is
> not abandoned and the spots enter the database nicely.
>
> The map issue is explained in the wsprnet org forum with the appropriate
> solution as well.
>
> Users are managed steadily albeit sometimes slowly as I am probably the
> only user admin doing any work on it at all most of the time.
>
> The other admins focus on keeping the site itself up and running and
> solving the more technical issues.
>
>
> Happy to give more insight if needed:
>
> Erwin,
>
> PE3ES/F4VTQ
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:59 AM Benjamin Bänziger <helios.sola...@gmx.ch>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> This is probably not the right place for this issue, but all other
> options didn't get attention unfortunately.
>
> Over the past months and years, wsprnet got continuously slower, as more
> and more people used the service.
> Since a few months, wsprnet got unreachable for minutes multiple times a
> day. It is common that database requests time out.
>
> wsprnet does also regularly lose wspr spots, because it is overloaded.
> Since a week now, the map on wsprnet.org doesnt work anymore.
> The official wsprnet e-mail is refusing e-mails since at least one year(!)
>
>
> Over the past months, there have been countless complaints in the
> wsprnet forum. And also countless offers to help to resolve this issue,
> also offers for donations.
> Yet nobody seems to take action.
>
>
> I ask you to please find somebody who takes care of wsprnet.org. WSPR is
> the best mode I've seen in ham radio for exploring propagation. It would
> be very sad to see it go down like this.
> wsprnet is a very important part of the WSPR mode.
>
>
> Thanks.
> 73
>
>
>
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