Onno
My frustration is specifically with the seeming unwillingness of the
admin team to recognize the serious system issues that have plagued the
site for the last two years (at least). If this assumption is
inaccurate, then my apologies, as it is based on the comments made by
the admin that posted to this list and taken as the position of the rest
of the admin staff.
Countless offers for help have been made by individuals, either in
expertise/time or monetary. It seems at this point a fresh perspective
and solution is warranted, as the status quo and temporary band-aides
that have been performed in recent times only alleviates the issues for
a short period of time.
The rest of my Email just stated observational facts. At the end of the
day, I could care less if the site works or not, I still have my own
spots in the locally running WSJTx to utilize as needed. But other
folks use the mass collected data for many purposes and it's become more
difficult to interact with and acquire that data and parts of the site.
Also, this has nothing to do with the map....
73 Eric
On 10/14/19 10:39 PM, Onno Benschop wrote:
Eric, the frustration in your email is visceral and leads me to one
question:
When did you last pay for an SLA in relation to wsprnet?
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On Tue., 15 Oct. 2019, 08:37 Eric NO3M, <n...@no3m.net
<mailto:n...@no3m.net>> wrote:
This kind of ignorant response is frankly infuriating and in
itself shows why wsprnet.org <http://wsprnet.org> is going to hell
to put it kindly....
I am very active in the LF/MF community and WSPR is heavily used
for propagation studies, realtime band opening indication, etc.
Ask anyone in at least the US and VK LF/MF community what they
think of wsprnet.org...
There are definitely spots that never make their way to the
database, numerous in fact. The poor system performance is a
recurring topic in the LF/MF chat group. Almost nightly someone
complains about slow response or that the database part of the
site just simply will not load. You can't definitively say all
spots are being imported into the database... from the site's
vantage point there is no way of knowing what is missed due to the
site being unreachable when those lost spots are coming in.
The "database" part of the site is very often extremely slow to
load or never loads at all. Eventually, without fail, on a daily
basis, the page will fail to load when left open in a browser tab
when it attempts to auto refresh.
I understand you are not part of the technical team, but perhaps
the ones responsible can be given the message loud and clear and
not continue to assume all is fine. The site (specifically the
database infrastructure) needs serious intervention. The folks
that are responsible for maintaining the site's functional
integrity have failed miserably. Time to step up or pass the
responsibility on to a competent team.
73 Eric NO3M
On 10/14/19 3:45 PM, Erwin Serle via wsjt-devel wrote:
Not sure why you come to these conclusions, the website is not
slow, it is not abandoned and the spots enter the database nicely.
The map issue is explained in the wsprnet org forum with the
appropriate solution as well.
Users are managed steadily albeit sometimes slowly as I am
probably the only user admin doing any work on it at all most of
the time.
The other admins focus on keeping the site itself up and running
and solving the more technical issues.
Happy to give more insight if needed:
Erwin,
PE3ES/F4VTQ
On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 4:59 AM Benjamin Bänziger
<helios.sola...@gmx.ch <mailto:helios.sola...@gmx.ch>> wrote:
Hi,
This is probably not the right place for this issue, but all
other
options didn't get attention unfortunately.
Over the past months and years, wsprnet got continuously
slower, as more
and more people used the service.
Since a few months, wsprnet got unreachable for minutes
multiple times a
day. It is common that database requests time out.
wsprnet does also regularly lose wspr spots, because it is
overloaded.
Since a week now, the map on wsprnet.org <http://wsprnet.org>
doesnt work anymore.
The official wsprnet e-mail is refusing e-mails since at
least one year(!)
Over the past months, there have been countless complaints in the
wsprnet forum. And also countless offers to help to resolve
this issue,
also offers for donations.
Yet nobody seems to take action.
I ask you to please find somebody who takes care of
wsprnet.org <http://wsprnet.org>. WSPR is
the best mode I've seen in ham radio for exploring
propagation. It would
be very sad to see it go down like this.
wsprnet is a very important part of the WSPR mode.
Thanks.
73
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