RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing!

[Todd Boyle]

Title: RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing!

Can I add some informal advice?   Go to the OAG site and drill around and find the specs. There are DTDs, sample documents, and several large reference documents including Integration Scenarios.  These are superb documentation, with paragraphs of explanation of the meaning and usage of every element, attribute, etc. Really first class.   DOn't make the mistake I made, and try to study it from the screens. Spend the money and print out all the stuff.  Lay it on the table and you will learn it a lot faster.  You can understand the basic OAG docs in only a few hours. Perhaps two four hour sessions if you read and study seriously.  It will be time well spent.   Regarding eCo Framework, there is no escaping the whole document.  Spend the money and print it out.  The DTDs are in the doc. so its only a fraction the size of OAG.  This is really only the tip of the iceberg on eCo.    Unlike BizTalk, these two schema provide real interoperability.   Biztalk is only an envelope.  In my opinion it is a strategic proposal by Microsoft that encourages mass,  parallel development and exchange of XML in incompatible schema.  It is designed to create  sales of massive numbers of development platforms, and will end up  requiring massive hardware and software engines to transform all the XML into other XML.     How ironic for Microsoft BizTalk server to be positioned as a remedy to prevent incompatible Ad-hoc XML, in the ZD article.   The last thing we need is another generation of 10 million VB programmers flailing at this.  What we need is one *good* architecture that works, like SMTP.   Todd Boyle CPA http://www.gldialtone.com   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Emad N. Georgy Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 2:22 PM To: David Irvine; 'A. Malik'; The XML/EDI Group Subject: Re: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing! Check out OAG: www.openapplications.org   ----- Original Message ----- From: David Irvine To: 'A. Malik' ; The XML/EDI Group Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing! Ditto Dave Irvine Systems Analyst, EIS EDI Coordinator [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From:   A. Malik [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:   Thursday, February 03, 2000 11:23 AM To:     The XML/EDI Group Subject:        RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing! >Meanwhile give me eCo Framework, or anything else, thats free. Where would I go to find out more about this framework? Any help is appreciated. --Adam--