dear comrades
let raise this question before the forum to deliberate and debate it.
My questions are such that despite Malemas' lack of practical and
theoretical capacity to lead the revolutionary young movement can the forum
respond to following inferences:
1. was Malema the relevant candidate for te presidency for the ANCYL ?
2. why Malema seems to not incalcate the primary twin tasks of the ANCYL
?
3. why is Malema not focusing on the youth development programmes that
are aimed at bettering the lives of the young people?
4. why if Malema so passionately championed the matters regarding the
ANC leadership why can't he also champion the matters that are affecting
the structure he is the president of ?
5. the vibrancy of the youth has been peeled off by haulers and
leadership thats only interested lambasting when driving their political
scores.
6. why can't Malema be vocal in fighting for the establishment of the
youth ministry to place in the cabinet next government and purge the
establishment of youth commission, usobomvu and so the like of institutions
that have created young elites who do not care about defending the gain of
our revolution?
7. why can't Malema be vocal in lobby and advocacy for the youth interest in
a broaders spectrum and champion the youth intersts.
8. why can't Malema mobilise the youth to rally behing the banner and
mission of the ANC amid the doltrums and challenges that are facing the
movement in this juncture of political climate and mobilise the youth to
vote for the ANC and not to become too much concerned or focused on the
SHIKOTAS of this world
9. ANCYL branches are none functional or dead and not to mention the
provinces.
10. since the National Conference of the ANCYL where are ther organisational
programme, what about the resolution of the conference and what about
uniting the ANCYL, there are many questions comrades.
But like I suggested let the leadersip of the ANCYL be assisted rather than
be defended. LEt us not be blinded by loyalty because it the weakest link
that is hindering robust and organic political debates in our movement.
Let us be objective comrades
Amandla>>>>>>>>>>>
Comrades correct me if I am wrong, Malema is or has deviated from the main
core of the ANCYL principles and policies. He seems to have forgotten the
core mandate of the ANCYL.
Let engage
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of sabelo gina
Sent: 28 October 2008 06:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
Sure VC, good decision!
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 6:46 AM, Dominic Tweedie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Sgidi,
I censor spam.
You are spamming this group.
Bye-bye Sgidi. You're banned.
VC
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sgidi Mosala
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
Cde Lazola, I think U are dead wrong. Julias does not have both
practical and theoritical capacity to lead the revolutionary Youth Movement.
If he has the said capacity ! Where is the program of the ANCYL,
Provinces are dying a natural death. The only thing preoccupying his mind is
how to symphone Lembede Investment Arm resources.
I am utterly dissapointed in all of those who allege that this boy can
lead. He is just like a child who make noise to draw the attention of the
parents, irrespective of the timing.
I don't hate him I despise his unpolitical and antirevolutionary
conduct.
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From: "Ndlazilwana, Lazola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Madlavu, Simphiwe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cakwebe, Ronnie"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Malgas, Nicholas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bobani, Lindile"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Yoliswa Memela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Mantla, Mzwabantu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jikeka,
Wandisile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Jack, Thumeka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"Blouw, Zitulele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Katshu, Zamekile"
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Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:19:32 PM
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
I wonder who in the history of the movement did apply or produced his
qualifications in order for him to be elected in to a leadership
position?Anyway even if there is one who did so for arguement sake who will
be responsible for shortlisting.Cdes in this movement we accept anyone who
has the potential to lead not only in theory but also in practice as this
young lion is doing Malema will lead the ANCYL as long as he is still
carrying the mandate if young people of this country.All what is doing or
saying on the content is the mandate we gave him on the 23rd conference it
has nothing to do with his matric result.I wonder how many sport celebrity
who obtained scholarship abroad based on their sporting perfomance than
their academics some now are the adminstrators of sport structures so why
there is noise on this young politician.Viva
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From: Madlavu, Simphiwe
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:08 AM
To: Cakwebe, Ronnie; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: Malgas, Nicholas; Bobani, Lindile; Yoliswa Memela;
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mantla, Mzwabantu; Jikeka, Wandisile; Jack, Thumeka;
Blouw, Zitulele; Katshu, Zamekile; Chiliwe, Misumzi; Vusumzi Ketelo;
Ndlazilwana, Lazola; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
Com
you are inline and also you are proving what I've constantly mantained,
that a debate should not be left in the hands of the so called fundi's.
Although I'm in the E.Cape,I've had the oportunity to meet the comrade
whilst he was at COSAS, he was this vibrant. Coming back to the issue of
certificate,mine is similar to that of Malema, I'm a brilliant somebody even
if I say so myself, however you will not see that in any certificate. The
point I'm making is that, the dogs will bark at a moving car,if you wrestle
with pigs you will get dirt and the pigs will love it.Malema deserves the
respect that others claim he doesnt have,as a human being and as leader of
one of the large youth formations in the continent.People should know that
as youth our voice matter and Malema is that voice.We will be damned if we
are going to let the so called I repeat the so called interlectuals to be
the voice of our community,we dare not listen to them. the society has been
hijacked by the phobia of political debate and we dare not give in. phambili
Malema phambili!!!
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From: Cakwebe, Ronnie
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 11:15 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Malgas, Nicholas; Madlavu, Simphiwe; Bobani, Lindile
Subject: FW: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
DERRICK HLUKANA NO MALEMA UZODLIWA ZIZINJA ZOMBUTHO IINTNGA ZAKHO KE
PHOFU
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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of sabelo gina
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 3:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Re: Malema's Matric Results
Comrade Mondli,
I am proud of you my chief, well articulated point.
Comradely,
Cedric Gina.
On 10/24/08, Mondli Hlatshwayo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi comrades
I want to state it from the very onset that I am not a Julius Malema's
fan. I really disagree with a number of statements that have been made by
Malema in the media. I think his approach to politics is not advancing the
interest of the South African youth but that is debate for another day.
On the other hand, I do think though that those who are socialists and
activists should not fall into the trap of the petty bourgeois elements, the
analysts of the bourgeois order and the mass media. During our dark of the
struggle, formal education and qualifications were always taken with a pinch
of salt. We knew that in general formal education was there to serve the
interest of the apartheid capitalist system.
Our approach was to go to the school and use them as a site of
struggle. Of course, we studied and got formal qualification but individual
qualifications and certificates were not glorified. If you read a popular
pamphlet issues by students of 1976 called, "To town, To Ellof", you will
notice that for them the certificate was the struggle. We had a lot of
comrades who did not have all these formal qualifications but they performed
better politically. In many cases, these comrades were sharper than those
who had university qualification. The struggle was their school.
In fact, their education was what we call popular education which was
based on collective learning and sharing of experiences. These were
grassroots intellectuals or what Gramsci would call organic intellectuals. A
number of these comrades were shop stewards, student leaders and so on. In
fact, these comrades were able to debate with professors and academics.
These comrades ran their own study circles and read the Learning Nation of
the then New Nation. The mass movement and the struggle gave these comrades
education. .
Today, we are faced with a situation where certain petty bourgeois
elements want to judge us on the basis of our grammar, pronunciation,
certificates and even matric results. In other words, it is only those who
have masters degree who are entitled to public opinions. We must never
forget that the apartheid system never provided the black working class
children with proper education. Even today, it is the kids of the middle
class and the ruling class who are able to excel in formal education because
they have all the material support from their parents.
Over the past few days, I witnessed a very painful and a touching
incident in Freedom Park, the South of Johannesburg. I had gone for a
meeting there. There was a working class kid at the meeting. He is probably
three years old but he could not hold the pen properly. Now if you were to
compare that with middle class and upper class kids, what do you get? The
kids from better family backgrounds at that age are starting to read and
write. They even speak English fluently. They are exposed to computers. Now
we can see right from the beginning that this working class kid is unlikely
to compete with the kids of the middle classes.
I have worked with a lot of good comrades who do not have matric
results. Do I then undermine these comrades just because they never
matriculated? I think that would be reactionary and backward on my part. I
have to confess that these comrades sometimes perform political tasks much
better than the certificate-wielding petty bourgeois elements.
Yours in the struggle for the total emancipation of the working class
Mondli Hlatshwayo
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