Comrades perhaps the problem is not with the organisation of Lembede or that of Ruth First, operating on campus but it is about how we have set up these organisation in relation to SASCO. I strongly hold a view that there is a need for the political organisations such as the YCL and ANC YL in our campuses.
The mobilisation of SASCO in campuses is limited only to students and this sometimes limit the manner in which it fights for the transformation of these institutions. The ANC YL and YCL on the other hand organise young people and these can include a number of students from the SASCO membership, general workers, administrative workers and academic young working people. NEHAWU exists in these institutions to mobilise workers but it sometimes faces problem in organising young workers the role of the ANC YL and YCL can be very central in this regard. These organisation thus can grow to be an embodiment of the worker student alliance in institutions of higher learning . This is not in any way a dissolution of the SASC O/NEHAWU student alliance as it still needs to exist as the mobilisation of both the organisation of Lembede and First will be limited to young workers. This means both these organisation should know and understand their existence, particularly the fact that they first cannot contest SRC Elections as it is a terrain of students and they secondly cannot, by their own, enter salary negotiation, unless invited by NEHAWU as this is its terrain. If we could move from this angle there would be no confusion. The problem with how things have happened is that both these organisations are now centred on organising students, which is why there is a problem, because SASCO already organises students. When two organisation are mobilising the same constituency, you are likely to get oppositionist tendencies developing amongst them "The state is the product and manifestation of the irreconcilability of class antagonisms..."State and Revolution, Lenin (1917) ________________________________ From: Ntokozo Lwandle <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 7:38:21 AM Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] ANCYL and YCL vs SASCO Cdes I still hold on into the view that only SASCO should be organising at institutions of higher learning, the others may only exists for the other agendas but SASCO should lead students governance. These problems now basically indicates that having alliance partners of the PYA competing in SRC elections may in the long run reduce the struggle of students to narrow interests of individuals lining up for their own agendas rather that that of the whole students society. Cdes On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:41:57 +0200 Sibusiso nkosi wrote My fello comrade Litha I must admit the point that you are raising is very key and when I think about it it saddenes my heart. I maintain a view that the streath of the PYA is predicated upon a solid Sasco, ANC youth L and YCL. the YCL, ANC YL and Sasco I'm of the view must stll maintain their autonomy. I say this because ideologically these structures have healty diffrences and healthy similarities. The struggle is one, the bureaucratic, arrogant and capitalist tendencies that we see from the manangement of these Institutions of higher learning. Politics, clubs and societies which give the students a voice are slowly suffocating though I hope they will not cease to exist. We only have ourselves to blame because of these foreighn tendencies. the view that you have raised i will still put on emphasis a key and sad. We really need to breath back life to our PYA. Amandla On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Litha Yono <[email protected]> wrote: > >Cmrds > > > >What is happening within our institutions of Higher learning within the PYA >is >not healthy for the future of our student politics. I'm a part time student >in >one of the universities in the Eastern Cape and what is happening is really >worrying. Sasco and the YCL branch in this institution, seem to be in >competition when it comes to the issues that face the institution. The YCL >campus branch is disputing the fact that Sasco must, as a principle, lead the >institutions of higher learning. What is happening now, is that you get groups >that associate themselves with Sasco,YCL,ANYCL with the end result definately >undesirable. The strange thing cmrds, is that the difference within these >groups >is not ideological, it is preference of individual leaders. > > > >The YCL and the ANCYL should, in my opinion, act to reinforce SASCO and to >provide political guidance to the organisation. SASCO must remain the leader >of >the PYA within our universities,Technikon and FET colleges with the ANCYL,YCL >providing guidance instead of acting to undermine SASCO. I call on the ANCYL >and >the YCL to provide guidance,political support to the student body and to >influence the actions of SASCO, not to undermine them, therein confusing the >rest of the students, who desparetely need to be politisised. > > >-- >You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this >message. >You can visit the group WEB SITE at >http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery options, >pages, files and membership. >To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected] . >You >don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to put >anything in the message part. 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