Combrades I'm really suprised that the Youth League and YCL are still actively involved in student politics. This is the issue that has been discussed for many years when I was still a student. My experience with comrabes that are mingling in student politics is that this confusion is caused by people who are suppose to have finished their degrees but are not. Their mentality has passed student politics and that is why they find themeslves cought in the middle of not understanding that SASCO is the only student politic that should deal with student issues in insititutions of higher learning.
It is clear that until these people do not realise or understand that they have to spend certain amount of time at varsity so that they can participate meangfully in building the country by dedicating themselves to the struggle of the working class not the learning class (students) and the poor. Until they realise this vision (struggle for the working class and the poor) this debate won't go away. Combrades we must encourage each other not to spend more than the required time at our institutions of higher learning so that this confusion is eradicated npermanenlty. If one spend too much time at an instituion these are the results and more confusion is created. Amandla Zuko (Western Cape) On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:32:42 +0200 "Scelo Gcabashe" <[email protected]> wrote > NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited > EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE > > which can be viewed at http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Eish comrades.. I feel tears in my eyes when you touch this subject... if I > go down memory lane it was around 1995/6 when in our campus this discussion > took place... well I must say that some of us remained battered and bruised > when we raise the view that SASCO must lead the institutions but emotions > aside.. > > > > The problem with student politics is that it has been infiltrated by a mob > psycho mentality. How do other MDM structures do their political work remains > a challenge.. but space need to be provided.. > > > > I remain.. > > > > >>> "Ntokozo Lwandle" <[email protected]> 2010/10/21 07:38 AM >>> > > Cdes > > > > I still hold on into the view that only SASCO should be organising at > > institutions of higher learning, the others may only exists for the other > > agendas but SASCO should lead students governance. These problems now > > basically indicates that having alliance partners of the PYA competing in SRC > > elections may in the long run reduce the struggle of students to narrow > > interests of individuals lining up for their own agendas rather that that of > > the whole students society. > > > > Cdes > > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:41:57 +0200 Sibusiso nkosi wrote > > > > My fello comrade Litha > > > > I must admit the point that you are raising is very key and when I think > > about it it saddenes my heart. I maintain a view that the streath of the PYA > > is predicated upon a solid Sasco, ANC youth L and YCL. the YCL, ANC YL and > > Sasco I'm of the view must stll maintain their autonomy. I say this because > > ideologically these structures have healty diffrences and healthy > > similarities. The struggle is one, the bureaucratic, arrogant and capitalist > > tendencies that we see from the manangement of these Institutions of higher > > learning. Politics, clubs and societies which give the students a voice are > > slowly suffocating though I hope they will not cease to exist. We only have > > ourselves to blame because of these foreighn tendencies. > > > > the view that you have raised i will still put on emphasis a key and sad. We > > really need to breath back life to our PYA. > > > > Amandla > > > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 7:40 PM, Litha Yono wrote: > > > > Cmrds > > > > What is happening within our institutions of Higher learning within the PYA > > is not healthy for the future of our student politics. I'm a part time > > student in one of the universities in the Eastern Cape and what is happening > > is really worrying. Sasco and the YCL branch in this institution, seem to be > > in competition when it comes to the issues that face the institution. The YCL > > campus branch is disputing the fact that Sasco must, as a principle, lead the > > institutions of higher learning. What is happening now, is that you get > > groups that associate themselves with Sasco,YCL,ANYCL with the end result > > definately undesirable. The strange thing cmrds, is that the difference > > within these groups is not ideological, it is preference of individual > > leaders. > > > > The YCL and the ANCYL should, in my opinion, act to reinforce SASCO and to > > provide political guidance to the organisation. SASCO must remain the leader > > of the PYA within our universities,Technikon and FET colleges with the > > ANCYL,YCL providing guidance instead of acting to undermine SASCO. I call on > > the ANCYL and the YCL to provide guidance,political support to the student > > body and to influence the actions of SASCO, not to undermine them, therein > > confusing the rest of the students, who desparetely need to be politisised. > > > > > > NB: This email and its contents are subject to the Eskom Holdings Limited > EMAIL LEGAL NOTICE which can be viewed at > http://www.eskom.co.za/email_legalnotice > > -- > You are subscribed. 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