Dear Cde Gugu I don't know to what extent the Kgalema Camp is directly led by Kgalema. But if Kgalema pretends that he is not aware, then that is not o.k. comrade.
You can't have a Zuma Camp and an anti-Zuma Camp, while pretending that the anti-Zuma Camp is not a Kgalema Camp! Let me be clear, since it seems you are interested: I am positive, not negative, and I think you should be positive, too. I am not especially anti-Malema. I am pro-communist. I am not especially anti-Kgalema. I am Zuma Camp, as I have been for more years than enough. Maybe seven years or so. Why should I hide that, or pretend that it is not so? Why should I change? I suport the incumbent, and there is no campaign as far as I am concerned. Supporting the elected person is not electioneering. Until the electioneering is supposed to start, you are supposed to support the elected office bearers, including Jacob "Msholozi" Gedleyilhekisa Zuma. That is what I am doing. Kgalema Motlanthe is likewise the Deputy President of the ANC and of the country. Let it remain so. But if people are campaigning and destroying structures so that Kgalema can overthrow Jacob Zuma, that is wrong. VC On 29 September 2011 08:25, <[email protected]> wrote: > ** My point is, the sub title asserts that Comrade Kgalema is leading a > faction in the YL and it is incorrect > > We can't behave as if we are not ANC members-when the ANC specifically > called for discipline on such things . > > Its really improper comrades. If some people choose to do things > incorrectly, we can't then follow suite and say "oh well if they are doing > it, why can't we"- hence some are facing disciplinary matters > > Let's allow objectivity and discipline to prevail and not encourage > factionalism. Cde Gwede came out strongly against it and acknowledged the > severe ramifications it has on the organisation > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * [email protected] > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:17:01 +0000 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN > structures > > VC you do not have to be defensive- the article is too divisive- do not let > your anti-Malema mindset rule your brain! No one approves of Malema's way of > doing things- but leave Kgalema alone!!!! > > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > ------------------------------ > *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> > *Sender: * [email protected] > *Date: *Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:42:55 +0200 > *To: *<[email protected]> > *ReplyTo: * [email protected] > *Subject: *Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN > structures > > > It is not incorrect, Cde Gugu, and any divisiveness comes from what is > described in the article. > > It may be shocking to you, but in fact the Malema faction of the ANC Youth > League is also a Kgalema-for-President faction, which the Deputy President > has not discouraged, and which he actively encouraged by appearing at the > Youth League National Congress after the re-election of Malema, to pose with > him for the cameras. > > When the rioters were outside Luthuli House on 29th/30th August burning Cde > Blade's image, Cde President Zuma's image and the ANC flag, were at the same > time brandishing large, expensive pre-printed placards saying "Motlanthe for > President", Motlanthe did not distance himself from the display. > > Kgalema Motlanthe is mentioned in the article of the Business Day. > > When it comes to the Subject line of the e-mail postings, we are not > prisoners of the newspaper sub-editors, Cde Gugu. > > If the Kgalema thing is an "elephant in the room" for you, that you want to > pretend is not there, it's not anybody else's fault. The rest of us have to > see it for what it is. We can't go on talking about "anti-Zuma" as if we do > not know who is actually being referred to. > > > VC > > > > On 29 September 2011 07:33, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Morning, >> >> Just as a matter of interest the heading "Kgalema Motlanthe Faction >> smashes KZN structures"-is this an official heading from Business day or is >> it another title-it sounds HIGHLY incorrect and divisive! >> >> I just want clarity >> >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:54:35 +0200 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *[YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN >> structures >> >> >> [image: Business Day] >> >> >> *Youth league strips rebel province of its ‘powers’***** >> ** ** >> ** ** >> *Sibongakonke Shoba, Business Day, Johannesburg, 29 September 2011* >> ** ** >> THE KwaZulu-Natal African National Congress (ANC) Youth League has been >> stripped of its powers after its clashes with the Julius Malema-led national >> leadership.**** >> ** ** >> League secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa said yesterday the decision to >> strip the provincial leaders of their powers was taken by the national >> working committee after divisions within the KwaZulu-Natal executive became >> public last week. "There is infighting in that province and there is no >> stability," Mr Magaqa said.**** >> ** ** >> However, he could not explain what this decision meant. "It means they >> have no powers," he said.**** >> ** ** >> This is likely to fuel tensions in the league and the ANC, pitting >> supporters of ANC president Jacob Zuma against those who want him replaced >> by his deputy Kgalema Motlanthe. The league in KwaZulu-Natal has thrown its >> weight behind Mr Zuma while Mr Malema is linked to the anti-Zuma campaign. >> **** >> ** ** >> KwaZulu-Natal chairman Mthandeni Dlungwane yesterday said his executive >> would oppose the decision as it had been influenced by its refusal to >> support Mr Malema and his campaigns. "We will do whatever is necessary to >> fight this decision."**** >> ** ** >> Mr Dlungwane is leading a pro-Zuma faction in the province, while Mr >> Malema’s group is led by provincial secretary Bheki Mtolo. Mr Mtolo is said >> to be in favour of the national working committee decision.**** >> ** ** >> Both factions have gone to the league’s lower structures to lobby support. >> Mr Dlungwane said his backers would form the majority in all of the >> scheduled regional general council meetings. "We will be there in numbers," >> he said.**** >> ** ** >> Mr Magaqa denied the regional meetings had been called to explain the >> national working committee decision. "We are going there to discuss the OR >> Tambo month programme of mass action and other political issues," he said. >> **** >> ** ** >> [email protected]**** >> ** ** >> *From: http://www.businessday.co.za/Articles/Content.aspx?id=154613* >> * * >> * * >> * * >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. 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