Comrades 

let us not behave as we don't know what is happening comrade VC is correct they 
are a clique that is bent of pushing their agenda at all cost and some hide 
under the banner that they have not spoken in public but indeed they are 
pushing... Kgalema wants to be president and that's just it so let us not 
pretend to be blind on such issues and be clear and transparent strategic moves 
by the ANCYL are for purposes of pushing that particular agenda period

Communist Regards


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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN structures


The title is creating the impression that Cde Kgalema is involved some YL 
agenda against the current President. It is misleading, divisive and is meant 
to define the ANC into a Zuma vs Montlante template. We do not need that 
especially as we approach the centenary.
It is unfortunate that Cde VC sees it fit to qualify this heading - it actually 
needs to be condemned.
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From:  [email protected] 
Sender:  [email protected] 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:25:43 +0000
To: <[email protected]>
ReplyTo:  [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN structures
My point is, the sub title asserts that Comrade Kgalema is leading a faction in 
the YL and it is incorrect 

We can't behave as if we are not ANC members-when the ANC specifically called 
for discipline on such things . 

Its really improper comrades. If some people choose to do things incorrectly, 
we can't then follow suite and say "oh well if they are doing it, why can't 
we"- hence some are facing disciplinary matters

Let's allow objectivity and discipline to prevail and not encourage 
factionalism. Cde Gwede came out strongly against it and acknowledged the 
severe ramifications it has on the organisation 
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From:  [email protected] 
Sender:  [email protected] 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:17:01 +0000
To: <[email protected]>
ReplyTo:  [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN structures

VC you do not have to be defensive- the article is too divisive- do not let 
your anti-Malema mindset rule your brain! No one approves of Malema's way of 
doing things- but leave Kgalema alone!!!! 
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From:  Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 
Sender:  [email protected] 
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:42:55 +0200
To: <[email protected]>
ReplyTo:  [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN structures

It is not incorrect, Cde Gugu, and any divisiveness comes from what is 
described in the article.

It may be shocking to you, but in fact the Malema faction of the ANC Youth 
League is also a Kgalema-for-President faction, which the Deputy President has 
not discouraged, and which he actively encouraged by appearing at the Youth 
League National Congress after the re-election of Malema, to pose with him for 
the cameras.

When the rioters were outside Luthuli House on 29th/30th August burning Cde 
Blade's image, Cde President Zuma's image and the ANC flag, were at the same 
time brandishing large, expensive pre-printed placards saying "Motlanthe for 
President", Motlanthe did not distance himself from the display.

Kgalema Motlanthe is mentioned in the article of the Business Day.

When it comes to the Subject line of the e-mail postings, we are not prisoners 
of the newspaper sub-editors, Cde Gugu.

If the Kgalema thing is an "elephant in the room" for you, that you want to 
pretend is not there, it's not anybody else's fault. The rest of us have to see 
it for what it is. We can't go on talking about "anti-Zuma" as if we do not 
know who is actually being referred to.


VC




On 29 September 2011 07:33, <[email protected]> wrote:

Morning,
>
>Just as a matter of interest the heading "Kgalema Motlanthe Faction smashes 
>KZN structures"-is this an official heading from Business day or is it another 
>title-it sounds HIGHLY incorrect and divisive! 
>
>I just want clarity 
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>
>From:  Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 
>Sender:  [email protected] 
>Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:54:35 +0200
>To: <[email protected]>
>ReplyTo:  [email protected] 
>Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Kgalema Motlanthe faction smashes KZN structures
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Youth league strips rebel province of its ‘powers’ 
>  
>  
>Sibongakonke Shoba, Business Day, Johannesburg, 29 September 2011 
>  
>THE KwaZulu-Natal African National Congress (ANC) Youth
        League has been stripped of its powers after its clashes with
        the Julius
        Malema-led national leadership. 
>  
>League secretary-general Sindiso Magaqa said yesterday the
        decision to strip the provincial leaders of their powers was
        taken by the
        national working committee after divisions within the
        KwaZulu-Natal executive
        became public last week. "There is infighting in that province
        and there
        is no stability," Mr Magaqa said. 
>  
>However, he could not explain what this decision meant.
        "It means they have no powers," he said. 
>  
>This is likely to fuel tensions in the league and the ANC,
        pitting supporters of ANC president Jacob Zuma against those who
        want him
        replaced by his deputy Kgalema Motlanthe. The league in
        KwaZulu-Natal has
        thrown its weight behind Mr Zuma while Mr Malema is linked to
        the anti-Zuma
        campaign. 
>  
>KwaZulu-Natal chairman Mthandeni Dlungwane yesterday said
        his executive would oppose the decision as it had been
        influenced by its
        refusal to support Mr Malema and his campaigns. "We will do
        whatever is
        necessary to fight this decision." 
>  
>Mr Dlungwane is leading a pro-Zuma faction in the province,
        while Mr Malema’s group is led by provincial secretary Bheki
        Mtolo. Mr Mtolo is
        said to be in favour of the national working committee decision. 
>  
>Both factions have gone to the league’s lower structures to
        lobby support. Mr Dlungwane said his backers would form the
        majority in all of
        the scheduled regional general council meetings. "We will be
        there in
        numbers," he said. 
>  
>Mr Magaqa denied the regional meetings had been called to
        explain the national working committee decision. "We are going
        there to
        discuss the OR Tambo month programme of mass action and other
        political
        issues," he said. 
>  
>[email protected] 
>  
> 
>From: http://www.businessday.co.za/Articles/Content.aspx?id=154613 
>  
>  
>  
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