Good for you. I don't care about what others have in mind whenever they are being kind. I do know that I'm not selfless when I'm being kind although I never ask for anything in return.
It's easy to be happy when all the boddhisatvas are around. I wanna be in peace whether it is boddhisatvas or devils or demons that surround me. Still a long way to go. Siska -----Original Message----- From: ChrisAustinLane <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 06:08:59 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected]<[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle Wow, that is really different from my experience. I am constantly living in a sea of kind action. Food is shared, cars yield, smiles are smiled, sesshins are planned, children are taught, people send emails with interesting conversations for me to enjoy. I can scarcely go ten feet without running into another marvel. In Three Pillar's of Zen, someone says: when you begin to tread upon the Buddha path, ten thousand boddhisattvas spring up to help you. That has totally been my daily life. Someone may wish to argue that I can't peak into the heads of all these helpful folks and see what thoughts they has during their action, but how are their thoughts any more essential than my thoughts? Such a judgmental question would cause me to miss so much good food and moments, I will please skip it. Thanks, Chris Austin-Lane Sent from a cell phone On Sep 13, 2011, at 5:20, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Mayka, > > I agree there are people who serve 'selflessly' for the benefit of people. > 'Selfless' here is in the sense where the actions are not performed for the > benefit of oneself but others, and nothing is expected in return from people > who receive the kindness. I believe this is what you are saying. And again, I > agree. > > On the other hand, unless it is an action of an enlightened person (or in > Zen's words perhaps of Buddha Mind), then there is still 'self' or 'ego' > behind these 'selfless' acts. Most people still do an act of kindness with a > purpose, for example, to see others happy. What happen if others are not > happy? What happen if the conditions of people being helped is not improved? > > This is not to say that there is absolutely no one, on this earth, who do > kindness just for the sake of doing it, just like eating when hungry and > sleeping when sleepy, without identifying the kindness as something more > special than the act of eating and sleeping. There may be. I just have not > met any. > > Siska > ------Original Message------ > From: Maria Lopez > Sender: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > ReplyTo: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle > Sent: Sep 11, 2011 15:53 > > Siska: They may be a tiny minority left in the world but still there are > people who do things for the wellbeing of life and other human fellows for > nothing. It's empathy what leads this minority to act in that way. There > also culutres consider as an undevelop that they also do things for the sake > of doing it. And there is not a catch when they do that. On the other side > of the spectrum and Living in that "develop" societies that seem to go crazy > in the worst way of destructive madness for all what is simple and beautiful > and giving as a result selfish self-centered individuals doesn't mean that > everyone is on that boat. Mayka --- On Sun, 11/9/11, [email protected] > <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle To: > [email protected] Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 4:27 Hi Mayka, > > A high percentage of English people met, they tended to be very friendly > only when they're not in their own land or also when they want something from > you. Don't we all? Each of us is selfish being. It's only the extend we > apply it in our actions that is a little different. Unless we're enlightened. > Siska From: Maria Lopez <[email protected]> Sender: > [email protected] Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 15:07:04 +0100 (BST) To: > <[email protected]> ReplyTo: [email protected] Subject: Re: > [Zen] Fwd: Re: [Zen Living] Supreme Vehicle Billl: If someone from the all > over the world students studying in England hear you about this "friendly > people" may give you a good slap in the face to help see reality in England. > American people are very helpful and friendly, that is a true statement. > But, THE ENGLISH LIVING IN ENGLAND?. I don't think so!!. A high percentage > of English people met, they tended to be very friendly only when they're not > in their own land or also when they want something from you. . Mayka > --- On Fri, 9/9/11, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bill! > <[email protected]> Subje > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
