"Without question, This is so."    - KG   (AKA Mr. Obvious)

How did you read those four words the first time I posted them? Same now? It's not really a response to your comment, wasn't a response before. it's a stand alone expression. It offers nothing, as with questions this is still so, just not realized so.

To say "The answer lies in the disappearance of the question,,," seems to still be clinging to this as it's own answer - which seems redundant - or perhaps may appear to suggest something to do or be found where nothing lacks (which can be read two ways) - as such is the nature of expressing this.

KG


On 9/14/2012 7:27 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:

KG and Mike,


The answer lies in the disappearance of the question...

Edgar



On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:35 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:



On 9/13/2012 4:41 PM, mike brown wrote:
So life is an unresolved question with "don't know" arising before the question is asked...

What if it is, or isn't? No matter the answer, you still will/won't know shit. You'll only have knowledge of some shitty answer claiming to say what life is. How is this question relevant? What seeks this shit? What will you do with such knowledge? Will it be life-changing? That takes care of itself. *L*

Do you really want/need a story to tell you that this is this? Maybe you'd prefer one that says it's not this? That's what most want, and why they 'seek'. They read the stories and imagine themselves lacking this and practicing to get that. That's the seekers way/hard road/uphill path that eventually (or not) leads to utter futility that forces seeing this is this and has been all along. Given this is never not this, feelings of making progress toward this are more often than not setbacks.

"Don't know' is not a position, choice, or state. Its simply realizing the nature of ordinary mind. Not ignorance of, or detachment from anything. Honestly recognizing we don't know, and can't know - and that's not a problem as it's not about knowing. Never was. "Don't know" mind doesn't arise before or before or after anything. Non-arising. Unborn/undying. 'Don't know' mind is 'Original'/'Buddha mind', appearing as 'suchnness'.

Suchness is not an answer. No question can reveal this. This never lacks. To ask, is to request a resolution to a non-problem requiring no solution. The point of asking is ultimately to reveal the nature of the asking, not to get any other answer.

KG


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*From:* Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
*To:* [email protected]
*Sent:* Thursday, 13 September 2012, 18:36
*Subject:* Re: [Zen] the real world and zen power

On 9/13/2012 10:26 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
> I do not think it ends up as a question. Just an attempt to share the
> humor of being who we are.

Without question, This is so. ;)

KG







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