KG,

You are the one who is clinging to it. I've already moved on...

Edgar



On Sep 14, 2012, at 10:55 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:

> 
> "Without question, This is so."    - KG   (AKA Mr. Obvious)
> 
> How did you read those four words the first time I posted them? Same now? 
> It's not really a response to your comment, wasn't a response before. it's a 
> stand alone expression. It offers nothing, as with questions this is still 
> so, just not realized so.
> 
>  To say "The answer lies in the disappearance of the question,,," seems to 
> still be clinging to this as it's own answer - which seems redundant - or 
> perhaps may appear to suggest something to do or be found where nothing lacks 
> (which can be read two ways)  -  as such is the nature of expressing this. 
> 
> KG
> 
> 
> On 9/14/2012 7:27 AM, Edgar Owen wrote:
>>  
>> KG and Mike,
>> 
>> 
>> The answer lies in the disappearance of the question...
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2012, at 2:35 AM, Kristopher Grey wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 9/13/2012 4:41 PM, mike brown wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> So life is an unresolved question with "don't know" arising before the 
>>>> question is asked...
>>> 
>>> What if it is, or isn't? No matter the answer, you still will/won't know 
>>> shit. You'll only have knowledge of some shitty answer claiming to say what 
>>> life is. How is this question relevant? What seeks this shit? What will you 
>>> do with such knowledge? Will it be life-changing? That takes care of 
>>> itself. *L*
>>> 
>>> Do you really want/need a story to tell you that this is this? Maybe you'd 
>>> prefer one that says it's not this? That's what most want, and why they 
>>> 'seek'. They read the stories and imagine themselves lacking this and 
>>> practicing to get that. That's the seekers way/hard road/uphill path that 
>>> eventually (or not) leads to utter futility that forces seeing this is this 
>>> and has been all along. Given this is never not this, feelings of making 
>>> progress toward this are more often than not setbacks.
>>> 
>>> "Don't know' is not a position, choice, or state. Its simply realizing the 
>>> nature of ordinary mind. Not ignorance of, or detachment from anything. 
>>> Honestly recognizing we don't know, and can't know - and that's not a 
>>> problem as it's not about knowing. Never was. "Don't know" mind doesn't 
>>> arise before or before or after anything. Non-arising. Unborn/undying. 
>>> 'Don't know' mind is 'Original'/'Buddha mind', appearing as 'suchnness'.
>>> 
>>> Suchness is not an answer. No question can reveal this. This never lacks. 
>>> To ask, is to request a resolution to a non-problem requiring no solution. 
>>> The point of asking is ultimately to reveal the nature of the asking, not 
>>> to get any other answer.
>>> 
>>> KG
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Kristopher Grey <[email protected]>
>>>> To: [email protected] 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 13 September 2012, 18:36
>>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] the real world and zen power
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> On 9/13/2012 10:26 AM, Chris Austin-Lane wrote:
>>>> > I do not think it ends up as a question. Just an attempt to share the 
>>>> > humor of being who we are.
>>>> 
>>>> Without question, This is so. ;)
>>>> 
>>>> KG
>>>> 
>>>> 
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