Merle, I was fearing you would do this...
After asking me to watch a video several times, me asking you for clarification of just what I should be looking for with no response, then finally watching the video, taking notes and returning a detailed response from the focus I ASSUMED interested you - you just walk away from the discussion. I have now watched the video. I stand ready to discuss my reply below or any of the other points I have noted - or any other points you may have seen in the video that I missed. What more I can do than that I just don't know... ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > Â forget it...sorry to have involved you!..merle > > Â > *** BIG ERROR *** > > Correct the end of that second sentence to read "I can assure you I will > NOT..." ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > Merle, > > > > As I said I did watch the video and even took notes. I probably now have > > over an hour invested in this response and can assure you I will expend > > this effort again unless you are more specific in your questions or > > requests of me. > > > > I am prepared to comment but I want to show you why I first wanted you to > > tell me what your point was - why you wanted me to watch the video and what > > specifically did you want me to comment on. > > > > My notes show at least the following topics that might have been of > > interest to you: > > - monks involved in 'uprising' against Chinese rule > > - news of monk's involvement being suppressed > > - monks are protesting using self-immolation > > - monks that self-immolate are mostly young > > - China blames the Dalai Lama and says he is not discouraging and is > > actually encouraging self-immolation > > - Tibetan Prime Minister discourages immolation but blames China > > - Tibetan PM wants a 'more open and liberal' Tibet > > - Most Tibetan areas are 'No-GO' zones for foreign journalists > > - Australian journalist defied Chinese law and went anyway, were challenged > > several times and finally kicked-out > > - The Tibetan monasteries are said to be the keeper of Tibetan traditions > > and culture > > - A monk said he thought the monks that self-immolated did so because they > > were 'unsettled in their hearts' > > - Some cities have large garrisons of Chinese troops that patrol the streets > > - Tibetan woman blames Chinese Communist Party for deaths and wants freedom > > of speech > > - There are also reports of monk 'spies' in the employ of the Chinese > > government > > - Tibetans are very poor with no chance of improvement > > > > This is why I don't feel I can 'just watch this and comment', because the > > scope is way too large. I need a smaller scope on which to focus. I've > > ASSUMED that scope is how the Dalai Lama is associated to this video which > > highlights the self-immolation: > > > > IMO... > > > > - The Dalai Lama is negligent in his duties as spiritual leader of his > > people if he is not actively discouraging self-immolation for any reason. > > - He is also negligent for not attending to his monks that are said to be > > 'unsettled in their hearts'. That's exactly what their religion is > > supposed to address. > > - He is also negligent in not advising his monks that their role in their > > country's culture is to provide spiritual succor to their congregation, not > > to lobby for political action. > > > > I want to again point out that I really don't know why you think this is an > > appropriate or interesting topic on a forum dedicated to zen. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > Okay, I watched the first 30 seconds of this 10 minute video and believe > > > I've got the gist of it. > > > > > > So, what's your point? Why did you want me to watch this? > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ did you watch it BILL!..MERLE > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > Yes! ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for Bill! > > > > > ÃÂ this is happening NOW! > > > > > ÃÂ merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3607238.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "for one moment our lives met > > > > > our souls touched" > > > > > oscar wilde > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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