i will get back to you..merle
Merle,
I was fearing you would do this...
After asking me to watch a video several times, me asking you for clarification
of just what I should be looking for with no response, then finally watching
the video, taking notes and returning a detailed response from the focus I
ASSUMED interested you - you just walk away from the discussion.
I have now watched the video. I stand ready to discuss my reply below or any
of the other points I have noted - or any other points you may have seen in the
video that I missed.
What more I can do than that I just don't know...
...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Â forget it...sorry to have involved you!..merle
>
> Â
> *** BIG ERROR ***
>
> Correct the end of that second sentence to read "I can assure you I will
> NOT..." ...Bill!
>
> --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> >
> > As I said I did watch the video and even took notes. I probably now have
> > over an hour invested in this response and can assure you I will expend
> > this effort again unless you are more specific in your questions or
> > requests of me.
> >
> > I am prepared to comment but I want to show you why I first wanted you to
> > tell me what your point was - why you wanted me to watch the video and what
> > specifically did you want me to comment on.
> >
> > My notes show at least the following topics that might have been of
> > interest to you:
> > - monks involved in 'uprising' against Chinese rule
> > - news of monk's involvement being suppressed
> > - monks are protesting using self-immolation
> > - monks that self-immolate are mostly young
> > - China blames the Dalai Lama and says he is not discouraging and is
> > actually encouraging self-immolation
> > - Tibetan Prime Minister discourages immolation but blames China
> > - Tibetan PM wants a 'more open and liberal' Tibet
> > - Most Tibetan areas are 'No-GO' zones for foreign journalists
> > - Australian journalist defied Chinese law and went anyway, were challenged
> > several times and finally kicked-out
> > - The Tibetan monasteries are said to be the keeper of Tibetan traditions
> > and culture
> > - A monk said he thought the monks that self-immolated did so because they
> > were 'unsettled in their hearts'
> > - Some cities have large garrisons of Chinese troops that patrol the streets
> > - Tibetan woman blames Chinese Communist Party for deaths and wants freedom
> > of speech
> > - There are also reports of monk 'spies' in the employ of the Chinese
> > government
> > - Tibetans are very poor with no chance of improvement
> >
> > This is why I don't feel I can 'just watch this and comment', because the
> > scope is way too large. I need a smaller scope on which to focus. I've
> > ASSUMED that scope is how the Dalai Lama is associated to this video which
> > highlights the self-immolation:
> >
> > IMO...
> >
> > - The Dalai Lama is negligent in his duties as spiritual leader of his
> > people if he is not actively discouraging self-immolation for any reason.
> > - He is also negligent for not attending to his monks that are said to be
> > 'unsettled in their hearts'. That's exactly what their religion is
> > supposed to address.
> > - He is also negligent in not advising his monks that their role in their
> > country's culture is to provide spiritual succor to their congregation, not
> > to lobby for political action.
> >
> > I want to again point out that I really don't know why you think this is an
> > appropriate or interesting topic on a forum dedicated to zen.
> >
> > ...Bill!
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Merle,
> > >
> > > Okay, I watched the first 30 seconds of this 10 minute video and believe
> > > I've got the gist of it.
> > >
> > > So, what's your point? Why did you want me to watch this?
> > >
> > > ...Bill!
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  did you watch it BILL!..MERLE
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ÂÂ
> > > > Merle,
> > > >
> > > > Yes! ...Bill!
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > for Bill!
> > > > >  this is happening NOW!
> > > > >  merle
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2012/s3607238.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "for one moment our lives met
> > > > > our souls touched"
> > > > > oscar wilde
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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