Edgar,

Welcome home!

Right.

And if you knew Aitken Roshi, you'd be exhausted by now even just FOLLOWING the 
activism that he engaged in, much less participating in it with him.  ;-)

But I don't know where the notion of passivity of/as Zen practitioners comes 
from, which you mention.  That may be the outsiders' view, due to "media" lack 
of understanding, going just one half millimeter deep; but it's not the view 
from the inside / our side.  As you know!

Whatever's necessary is what GOES.  Look out, passivists, and paci-fists.  Here 
come REAL Fists!  We are the true kung-fu. ;-)

Nihilism is knee-hilism: Not in MY "zen"!  ;-)

Zen-mind operates in a way opposite to "total passivity and nihilism'; never 
heard of such baloney / bullshit before now, in all my life.  It is the 
Life-of-Life, instead; and not a sickly concept.  Again, you know.

Just agreeing with you.

--Joe

> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Merle,
> 
> Absolutely admirable!
> 
> In spite of what some would have us believe Zen does not require total 
> passivity and nihilism.



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