Edgar and Joe,

Where did you get the idea that 'zen practitioners' are predominately passive?

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> Edgar,
> 
> Welcome home!
> 
> Right.
> 
> And if you knew Aitken Roshi, you'd be exhausted by now even just FOLLOWING 
> the activism that he engaged in, much less participating in it with him.  ;-)
> 
> But I don't know where the notion of passivity of/as Zen practitioners comes 
> from, which you mention.  That may be the outsiders' view, due to "media" 
> lack of understanding, going just one half millimeter deep; but it's not the 
> view from the inside / our side.  As you know!
> 
> Whatever's necessary is what GOES.  Look out, passivists, and paci-fists.  
> Here come REAL Fists!  We are the true kung-fu. ;-)
> 
> Nihilism is knee-hilism: Not in MY "zen"!  ;-)
> 
> Zen-mind operates in a way opposite to "total passivity and nihilism'; never 
> heard of such baloney / bullshit before now, in all my life.  It is the 
> Life-of-Life, instead; and not a sickly concept.  Again, you know.
> 
> Just agreeing with you.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> >
> > Merle,
> > 
> > Absolutely admirable!
> > 
> > In spite of what some would have us believe Zen does not require total 
> > passivity and nihilism.
>




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