Bill!,<br/><br/>Ahh, here we go again! I notice you wrote that I'm talking 
about "Buddhism not zen" [lower case 'z']. This is *your* idiosyncratic 
interpretation and is out of step with every writer on the subject including 
all the Patriarchs and Dogen. Lower case zen is not something outside of Zen 
Buddhism (except for you). And Zen Buddhism is not separate from the Dharma. I 
challenge you to find anything central in Buddhism (I don't like the name 
myself, but you know what I mean) that you can <br/>contradict and still 
manifest Buddha (now there's and irony) Nature. <br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/>Sent 
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