On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 7:28 AM, <rwali...@washdcmail.com> wrote:

> On Sep 29, 2009, at 2:41 AM, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>
>  On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 06:04:01PM -0400, Thomas Burgess wrote:
>>
>>> personally i like this case:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021
>>>
>>> it's got 20 hot swap bays, and it's surprisingly well built.  For the
>>> money,
>>> it's an amazing deal.
>>>
>>
>> You don't like http://www.supermicro.com/products/nfo/chassis_storage.cfm
>>  ?
>> I must admit I don't have a price list of these.
>>
>> When running that many hard drives I would insist on redundant
>> power supplies, and server motherboards with ECC memory. Unless
>> it's for home use, where a downtime of days or weeks is not critical.
>>
>
> I hadn't thought of going that way because I was looking for at least a
> somewhat pre-packaged system, but another posted pointed out how many more
> drives I could get by choosing case/motherboard separately.  I agree, with
> this much trouble it doesn't make sense to settle for fewer drive slots than
> I can get.
>
> For the money, it's a much better option. you'll be able to afford many
more drives.  In my opinion, for a home system, the more you can save on the
case and power supply, the more hard drives you can buy.  Right now 1 TB and
1.5 TB drives seem to be the best.  I used 1 TB drives and 2 compact flash
cards for the os (with sata to compact flash adapters)  They are really
small and easy to find a place to mount, which allows you to use the hotswap
bays for even more storage.


> I agree completely with the ECC.  It's for home use, so the power supply
> issue isn't huge (though if it's possible that's a plus).  My concern with
> this particular option is noise.  It will be in a closet, but one with
> louvered doors right off a room where people watch TV.  Anything
> particularly loud would be an issue.  The comments on Newegg make this sound
> pretty loud.  Have you tried one outside of a server room environment?
>
> Yes, ecc is nice.  They also sell dual powersupplies that FIT in a single
atx slot.  Just look around.  The noise isn't THAT bad.  If you have it in a
closet i'll be very surprised if it's a problem, that's exactly what i do
and it's in the SAME room as the tv and i don't notice it.  I have 2 norco
4020's in there and 2 more 2u servers, one is running my router software
(openbsd with pf) and the other is an older hp proliant box  I don't have a
problem at all with the noise.  I highly recommend that case.  It's not
designed to be quiet, but if you replace the stock fans with low noise fans,
it's much much much more quiet than you'd think. and it's designed well
enough to keep the drives cool.  It's perfect for home and small office use,
and will allow you to put more money into buying storage, which is the POINT
of what you are doing ANYWAYS.



> Thanks,
> Ware
>
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