On Jan 9, 2011, at 4:19 PM, Edward Ned Harvey 
<opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensola...@nedharvey.com> wrote:

>> From: Pasi Kärkkäinen [mailto:pa...@iki.fi]
>> 
>> Other OS's have had problems with the Broadcom NICs aswell..
> 
> Yes.  The difference is, when I go to support.dell.com and punch in my
> service tag, I can download updated firmware and drivers for RHEL that (at
> least supposedly) solve the problem.  I haven't tested it, but the dell
> support guy told me it has worked for RHEL users.  There is nothing
> available to download for solaris.

The drivers are written by Broadcom and are, AFAIK, closed source.
By going through Dell, you are going through a middle-man. For example,

http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtremeii10.php

where you see the release of the Solaris drivers was at the same time
as Windows.

> 
> Also, the bcom is not the only problem on that server.  After I added-on an
> intel network card and disabled the bcom, the weekly crashes stopped, but
> now it's ...  I don't know ... once every 3 weeks with a slightly different
> mode of failure.  This is yet again, rare enough that the system could very
> well pass a certification test, but not rare enough for me to feel
> comfortable putting into production as a primary mission critical server.
> 
> I really think there are only two ways in the world to engineer a good solid
> server:
> (a) Smoke your own crack.  Systems engineering teams use the same systems
> that are sold to customers.

This is rarely practical, not to mention that product development
is often not in the systems engineering organization.

> or
> (b) Sell millions of 'em.  So despite whether or not the engineering team
> uses them, you're still going to have sufficient mass to dedicate engineers
> to the purpose of post-sales bug solving.

yes, indeed :-)
 -- richard
> 


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