Give me some time John and I think I can demonstrate that this is not
necessarily so.

George

----- Original Message -----
From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: [ZION] Subject to natural law


> Jim Cobabe favored us with:
> >I think it is not doctrinal to assert that Heavenly Father is "subject
> >to natural law" in the same sense that we are.  To put it thus
> >incorrectly reverses the attribution of cause.
> >
> >God decreed the laws of the universe, and sustains them by the word of
> >His power--the laws are subordinate to Him.  They are becase He is.  He
> >acts in a manner consistent with the laws of His own decree, not because
> >He is "subject" to natural law, but because "natural" laws are _His_
> >laws.
>
> It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which Heavenly
> Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him.  They are
> uncreate.  And it was by obedience to these laws that he because
> God.  Remember, he was once a mortal man.  The idea that he made all the
> laws included those by which he progressed to become a God is a Protestant
> idea.  It is akin to creating something from nothing, which of course is
> impossible even for God.
>
>
> John W. Redelfs                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "...by proving contraries, truth is made manifest" --Joseph
> Smith, History of the Church, Volume 6, p.248
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> All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
>
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