We'll give you enough time for you and JWR to become gods, but no longer. We're an
impatient bunch, ya know...

George Cobabe wrote:

> Give me some time John and I think I can demonstrate that this is not
> necessarily so.
>
> George
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [ZION] Subject to natural law
>
> > Jim Cobabe favored us with:
> > >I think it is not doctrinal to assert that Heavenly Father is "subject
> > >to natural law" in the same sense that we are.  To put it thus
> > >incorrectly reverses the attribution of cause.
> > >
> > >God decreed the laws of the universe, and sustains them by the word of
> > >His power--the laws are subordinate to Him.  They are becase He is.  He
> > >acts in a manner consistent with the laws of His own decree, not because
> > >He is "subject" to natural law, but because "natural" laws are _His_
> > >laws.
> >
> > It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which Heavenly
> > Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him.  They are
> > uncreate.  And it was by obedience to these laws that he because
> > God.  Remember, he was once a mortal man.  The idea that he made all the
> > laws included those by which he progressed to become a God is a Protestant
> > idea.  It is akin to creating something from nothing, which of course is
> > impossible even for God.
> >
> >
> > John W. Redelfs                         [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > *******************************************************************
> > "...by proving contraries, truth is made manifest" --Joseph
> > Smith, History of the Church, Volume 6, p.248
> > *******************************************************************
> > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR
> >
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Marc A. Schindler
Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland

“Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people
see than weigh.” – Lord Chesterfield

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