We'll give you enough time for you and JWR to become gods, but no longer. We're an impatient bunch, ya know...
George Cobabe wrote: > Give me some time John and I think I can demonstrate that this is not > necessarily so. > > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John W. Redelfs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 7:23 PM > Subject: Re: [ZION] Subject to natural law > > > Jim Cobabe favored us with: > > >I think it is not doctrinal to assert that Heavenly Father is "subject > > >to natural law" in the same sense that we are. To put it thus > > >incorrectly reverses the attribution of cause. > > > > > >God decreed the laws of the universe, and sustains them by the word of > > >His power--the laws are subordinate to Him. They are becase He is. He > > >acts in a manner consistent with the laws of His own decree, not because > > >He is "subject" to natural law, but because "natural" laws are _His_ > > >laws. > > > > It is my understanding of Mormon doctrine that the laws by which Heavenly > > Father became and exalted being are coeternal with him. They are > > uncreate. And it was by obedience to these laws that he because > > God. Remember, he was once a mortal man. The idea that he made all the > > laws included those by which he progressed to become a God is a Protestant > > idea. It is akin to creating something from nothing, which of course is > > impossible even for God. > > > > > > John W. Redelfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ******************************************************************* > > "...by proving contraries, truth is made manifest" --Joseph > > Smith, History of the Church, Volume 6, p.248 > > ******************************************************************* > > All my opinions are tentative pending further data. --JWR > > > > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > // > > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > > > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > / > > > > > > > > ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// > /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// > ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > -- Marc A. Schindler Spruce Grove, Alberta, Canada -- Gateway to the Boreal Parkland “Knowledge may give weight, but accomplishments give lustre, and many more people see than weigh.” – Lord Chesterfield Note: This communication represents the informal personal views of the author solely; its contents do not necessarily reflect those of the author’s employer, nor those of any organization with which the author may be associated. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ZION LIST CHARTER: Please read it at /// /// http://www.zionsbest.com/charter.html /// ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ==^^=============================================================== This email was sent to: archive@jab.org EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?aaP9AU.bWix1n.YXJjaGl2 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^^===============================================================