On Sunday, February 07, 2016 08:25:13 PM John Levine wrote:
> In article <2049568.4HsipfqAXp@kitterma-e6430> you write:
> >To start with, you'll have to explain why receivers should trust a sender
> >to not lie about where they got the mail from in an ARC header field if
> >they don't already trust the sender.
> 
> If you're suggesting that ARC is only useful when you already trust
> the forwarding party, and if you trust the forwarding party, why do
> you need ARC, yeah, that's been pointed out before.
> 
> The best explanation I've seen was from someone at Google who said
> that they often see well behaved lists suddenly start to send spam
> when a spambot happens to send mail that fakes a subscriber's return
> address.  ARC would make it somewhat easier to tell when that happens.

OK.  Specifically in a DMARC context (this being the DMARC list), I don't see 
that it's particularly related to DMARC and solving the DMARC mailing list 
problem.  For the reasons you correctly state have been gone over before.

Scott K
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