Hey guys,
I am running Fusion with Unity on my Mac and I have a T60 with a vmx- capable CPU running Linux with VMWare on top. The Linux VMWare setup is working great, I have VMWare 6 running on it and I use it for Windows XP + Office 2007. Even though the T60 is a pretty sleek rig (2gig of ram, 2.6ghz cpu) I still see Windows being abit sluggish, even after allocating a gig of mem for it, but still very usable. The real problem for me is the lack of hardware video acceleration for VMWare in Linux and the choppy sound. I use iTunes quite alot, and when I plugged an iPod to VMWare 5 it would instantly oops the kernel. With 6, this is fixed and it also does USB 2.0. I cant complain from my experience with VMWare (less with Parallels, since I have not used for long) on the Mac. There are some minor issues, for example moving a window in Unity mode from one head to the other would cause it to render improperly, but if you move the whole VM window to the other monitor and then enable unity, it works fine (supposed to be fixed in future versions). Another one is the fact that as long as your virtual cdrom is plugged to the virtual machine, you cannot eject it since it appears locked to Mac Os, even if there's no disc inside (took me a while to figure that out...). Windows in Fusion runs very well on my Mac Pro, and the fact that you can detach application windows from the VM and interact with them as any other Mac app (called Unity in VMWare and Coherence in Parallels) is definitely a good thing. It also does hardware acceleration, so menus run quicker and you can actually watch video inside the VM. VMWare for the Mac however is very memory hungry, but I assume things will get ironed out as both Parallels and Fusion hit stable releases. The virtualization market on the Mac is alot more developed in terms of user experience in the desktop world, so if you need it for a desktop, that would be your better choice. I am looking at replacing my T60 with a MacBook Pro in the near future, but I have to get abit more friendly with the IT crew in my office;)


Regards,
Alex


On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Eran Sandler wrote:

Actually, I haven't decide whether to get a PC laptop (which will probably
be a Thinkpad T61) or a Macbook Pro laptop.

I'm more interested in performance and want to know which one of the
following solutions will be faster:

1) Thinkpad T61 running Ubuntu and VmWare 5 with XP + Visual Studio 2005 +
MSSQL + IIS
2) Macbook Pro (similar specs to the T61) running MacOSX + Parallels and a
virtual machine with the same configuration.

All in all I want my day to day to be without Windows at all, but still be able to work and develop the necessary things I need with Windows without
leaving my host.

I prefer Linux but if the performance is worse than what I will get with
comparable hardware on Mac + Parallels I'll go with a Mac.

Eran

-----Original Message-----
From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:27 PM
To: Eran Sandler
Cc: linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Virtualization software on Linux

Hi,

I didn't understand, you're planning to buy a Mac book or Mac book
pro? or Dell/Lenovo/HP/Acer/Asus etc.. laptop?

Parallels or VMWare Fusion (both for Mac) use the virtualized
extensions of the processor (if I recall correctly, all newer macs
have those extension enabled). You should search which VMWare product
suites you, depending on memory configuration you have on your
machine, which version of software etc.

For example: VMWare workstation 5 is WAY faster compared to VMWare 6.
OTOH VMWare 6 supports USB 2.0, 4GB RAM, more NICs (if I recall
correctly) and can be accessed natively with any VNC client, so you
can run VMWare 6 on the background and occasionly launch VNC client to
access it.

VMWare server is free (as a beer) virtualized software. It's pretty
stable (I have 1 right now running at my house for the last 50 days),
but I don't think it supports the VT extentions of your new processor.

Thanks,
Hetz

On 7/8/07, Eran Sandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Hello all,

I haven't been active lately on the mailing list but I am watching it.



I have a question regarding virtualization software on Linux.



I plan on getting a new laptop. Unfortunately I still need access to
Windows for some development purposes and I need to know the performance of virtualization software such as VmWare or Parallels on Linux as opposed to
Parallels on Mac (which I heard is really really fast).



Of course I would rather have a laptop running Ubuntu or some other Linux
variant and have a virtualization software such as VmWare (or something else that is really fast) running instead of using Mac, but I would do anything in my power to avoid running a Windows laptop (and since its new it will
probably have Vista which is even worse).



Does any of you have prior experience with this or know someone who does?



I'll have to run Visual Studio 2005, compile and run it with MSSQL on that
machine and it should work smoothly.



I'd love to get comments and/or information about it.



Thanks,

 Eran





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