Hello. I am wondering if this is just an issue on M1/2 chips or does it also affect Intel?
I usually hold off upgrading until the first or second patch, but I feel I should warn students in my class. Kevin > On Oct 3, 2023, at 12:14 PM, William R Revelle <reve...@northwestern.edu> > wrote: > > [You don't often get email from reve...@northwestern.edu. Learn why this is > important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] > > It turns out that is not just the graphics window that the focus problem, it > is all windows. That is, opening the help window takes focus away from the > console and help needs to be closed before the console window will be active. > The install package window has the same problem. > > For each case, closing the extra window restores console functioning. > > I report this just so Simon can see the report. > > I remain in awe of the work of Simon in getting the Mac version to work so > well. > > I am running > > R version 4.3.1 Patched (2023-09-30 r85239) > Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit) > Running under: macOS Sonoma 14.0 > > Bill > > >> On Oct 1, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> wrote: >> >> I hear you! It is not just R either. I know you mentioned R-studio. >> But there are lots of other things R-related like emacs. I had the >> hardest time with emacs for Catalina and Big sur. I’m not sure >> but I think Monterrey was better. However, all of those issues >> finally went away with Ventura. This makes me extremely hesitant for Sonoma >> since I am finally happy now. So long story short: Apple gets there, >> but it can take years sometimes. The new hardware like ARM (and >> the titanium iPhone!) look so cool it can be very tempting to go >> bleeding-edge. I learned my lesson when Ventura first came out. >> R was not ready and neither were lots of tools that we use here >> at work. Good luck >> -- >> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His >> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association >> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics >> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus >> From: William Revelle <li...@revelle.net> >> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 12:01 PM >> To: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>, r-sig-mac@r-project.org >> <r-sig-mac@r-project.org> >> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS X Sonoma >> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution >> when clicking on links or opening attachments. >> ________________________________ >> >> Rodney, >> >> Thanks for your quick reply. >> >> It turns out this is just a problem with the base R for Mac graphics window >> (which is to say, the version I like). I can still use R-studio (which I >> don’t like as much). >> >> I can wait patiently for a patch to the Mac version while using R-Studio. >> >> That way I don’t have to go through the hassle of trying to reinstall 13.x >> and dumping 14.0. >> >> Bill >> >> >>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Bill: >>> Well, I am usually pretty cautious about this. I don’t move to the >>> next release until R is ready. For Ventura, it took quite awhile >>> before that happened. Sorry >>> -- >>> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His >>> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association >>> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics >>> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus >>> From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of William >>> Revelle <li...@revelle.net> >>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM >>> To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org <r-sig-mac@r-project.org> >>> Subject: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS 1 >>> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution >>> when clicking on links or opening attachments. >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Dear Mac users of R and developers. >>> >>> >>> I recently updated to the Sonoma OS for Mac (14.0) and it has a serious >>> problem for graphics. >>> >>> plot(1:10) creates a graphic window but I can not switch back to the >>> console window using either command-1 or the mouse. >>> >>> Anybody else having this problem? Any suggestions for a patch? >>> >>> I am running a MacBook Pro with M1 Max. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>> (resent because of bad mail address) >>> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html >>> Professor personality-project.org >>> Department of Psychology >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzH5OX_pOA$ >>> Northwestern University >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.northwestern.edu/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzE95PXdSw$ >>> Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r >>> It is 90 seconds to midnight >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.thebulletin.org__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzFQyyeCDA$ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzHD4ZY2UQ$ >> >> >> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html >> Professor personality-project.org >> Department of Psychology >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIBhQrcuaw$ >> Northwestern University >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.northwestern.edu/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIB9JLDoKg$ >> Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r >> It is 90 seconds to midnight >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.thebulletin.org__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIB-u6-uTg$ > > > William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html > Professor personality-project.org > Department of Psychology www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/ > Northwestern University www.northwestern.edu/ > Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r > It 90 seconds to midnight www.thebulletin.org > > > _______________________________________________ > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
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