Kevin,
> On 4/10/2023, at 5:27 AM, Kevin Thorpe <kevin.tho...@utoronto.ca> wrote: > > Hello. > > I am wondering if this is just an issue on M1/2 chips or does it also affect > Intel? > It is an issue with Sonoma macOS new TUI classes and not the architecture so it will affect both. > I usually hold off upgrading until the first or second patch, but I feel I > should warn students in my class. > Definitely - I always tell them not to upgrade right away as major macOS versions are notoriously buggy. Ideally, you shouldn't upgrade until next R patch release since if macOS breaks something we can't fix (officially) it until the next release. Cheers, Simon > > >> On Oct 3, 2023, at 12:14 PM, William R Revelle <reve...@northwestern.edu> >> wrote: >> >> [You don't often get email from reve...@northwestern.edu. Learn why this is >> important at https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification ] >> >> It turns out that is not just the graphics window that the focus problem, it >> is all windows. That is, opening the help window takes focus away from the >> console and help needs to be closed before the console window will be >> active. The install package window has the same problem. >> >> For each case, closing the extra window restores console functioning. >> >> I report this just so Simon can see the report. >> >> I remain in awe of the work of Simon in getting the Mac version to work so >> well. >> >> I am running >> >> R version 4.3.1 Patched (2023-09-30 r85239) >> Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit) >> Running under: macOS Sonoma 14.0 >> >> Bill >> >> >>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 12:13 PM, Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> wrote: >>> >>> I hear you! It is not just R either. I know you mentioned R-studio. >>> But there are lots of other things R-related like emacs. I had the >>> hardest time with emacs for Catalina and Big sur. I’m not sure >>> but I think Monterrey was better. However, all of those issues >>> finally went away with Ventura. This makes me extremely hesitant for Sonoma >>> since I am finally happy now. So long story short: Apple gets there, >>> but it can take years sometimes. The new hardware like ARM (and >>> the titanium iPhone!) look so cool it can be very tempting to go >>> bleeding-edge. I learned my lesson when Ventura first came out. >>> R was not ready and neither were lots of tools that we use here >>> at work. Good luck >>> -- >>> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His >>> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association >>> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics >>> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus >>> From: William Revelle <li...@revelle.net> >>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 12:01 PM >>> To: Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu>, r-sig-mac@r-project.org >>> <r-sig-mac@r-project.org> >>> Subject: Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS X Sonoma >>> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution >>> when clicking on links or opening attachments. >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> Rodney, >>> >>> Thanks for your quick reply. >>> >>> It turns out this is just a problem with the base R for Mac graphics >>> window (which is to say, the version I like). I can still use R-studio >>> (which I don’t like as much). >>> >>> I can wait patiently for a patch to the Mac version while using R-Studio. >>> >>> That way I don’t have to go through the hassle of trying to reinstall 13.x >>> and dumping 14.0. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> >>>> On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Bill: >>>> Well, I am usually pretty cautious about this. I don’t move to the >>>> next release until R is ready. For Ventura, it took quite awhile >>>> before that happened. Sorry >>>> -- >>>> Rodney Sparapani, Associate Professor of Biostatistics, He/Him/His >>>> Vice President, Wisconsin Chapter of the American Statistical Association >>>> Institute for Health and Equity, Division of Biostatistics >>>> Medical College of Wisconsin, Milwaukee Campus >>>> From: R-SIG-Mac <r-sig-mac-boun...@r-project.org> on behalf of William >>>> Revelle <li...@revelle.net> >>>> Date: Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 11:19 AM >>>> To: r-sig-mac@r-project.org <r-sig-mac@r-project.org> >>>> Subject: [R-SIG-Mac] R 4.3.1 fails on Mac OS 1 >>>> ATTENTION: This email originated from a sender outside of MCW. Use caution >>>> when clicking on links or opening attachments. >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Dear Mac users of R and developers. >>>> >>>> >>>> I recently updated to the Sonoma OS for Mac (14.0) and it has a serious >>>> problem for graphics. >>>> >>>> plot(1:10) creates a graphic window but I can not switch back to the >>>> console window using either command-1 or the mouse. >>>> >>>> Anybody else having this problem? Any suggestions for a patch? >>>> >>>> I am running a MacBook Pro with M1 Max. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> >>>> >>>> (resent because of bad mail address) >>>> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html >>>> Professor personality-project.org >>>> Department of Psychology >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzH5OX_pOA$ >>>> Northwestern University >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.northwestern.edu/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzE95PXdSw$ >>>> Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r >>>> It is 90 seconds to midnight >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.thebulletin.org__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzFQyyeCDA$ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >>>> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!6ejyrhAkkZDmz7rI2sf4kna51unncXyvnIMc9xJ12h6pMfylTwNR8QeWq8RTUAAR7NMYOzHD4ZY2UQ$ >>> >>> >>> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html >>> Professor personality-project.org >>> Department of Psychology >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIBhQrcuaw$ >>> Northwestern University >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.northwestern.edu/__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIB9JLDoKg$ >>> Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r >>> It is 90 seconds to midnight >>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.thebulletin.org__;!!H8mHWRdzp34!88tilf5jXzIUAFnhvoS-ukTdaw-8-r6Idnya5ElJTuSaQGzC-w32dWd-UDOpOs8l5fIqHIB-u6-uTg$ >> >> >> William Revelle personality-project.org/revelle.html >> Professor personality-project.org >> Department of Psychology www.wcas.northwestern.edu/psych/ >> Northwestern University www.northwestern.edu/ >> Use R for psychology personality-project.org/r >> It 90 seconds to midnight www.thebulletin.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> R-SIG-Mac mailing list >> R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org >> https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac > > _______________________________________________ > R-SIG-Mac mailing list > R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac _______________________________________________ R-SIG-Mac mailing list R-SIG-Mac@r-project.org https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-sig-mac
