Aloha.
I've confirmed it on the M-chip but afraid to test on my Intel. I have
had a problem for years now, that seems related and limited to R.app.
RStudio does not have the problem: which is why I stopped using R.app.
On multiple machines, all architectures, R.app spontaneously switches
from editor windows to console and the switching of focus causes code to
get damaged or destroyed unwittingly.
RStudio has its own problems but this problem has never been solved (for
me) and I haven't been able to confirm it with others so no known
cause. It may be related to this current problem since it seems to be
in the same general domain.
J.
On 10/3/23 06:27, Kevin Thorpe wrote:
Hello.
I am wondering if this is just an issue on M1/2 chips or does it also affect
Intel?
I usually hold off upgrading until the first or second patch, but I feel I
should warn students in my class.
Kevin
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It turns out that is not just the graphics window that the focus problem, it is
all windows. That is, opening the help window takes focus away from the
console and help needs to be closed before the console window will be active.
The install package window has the same problem.
For each case, closing the extra window restores console functioning.
I report this just so Simon can see the report.
I remain in awe of the work of Simon in getting the Mac version to work so well.
I am running
R version 4.3.1 Patched (2023-09-30 r85239)
Platform: aarch64-apple-darwin20 (64-bit)
Running under: macOS Sonoma 14.0
Bill
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I hear you! It is not just R either. I know you mentioned R-studio.
But there are lots of other things R-related like emacs. I had the
hardest time with emacs for Catalina and Big sur. I’m not sure
but I think Monterrey was better. However, all of those issues
finally went away with Ventura. This makes me extremely hesitant for Sonoma
since I am finally happy now. So long story short: Apple gets there,
but it can take years sometimes. The new hardware like ARM (and
the titanium iPhone!) look so cool it can be very tempting to go
bleeding-edge. I learned my lesson when Ventura first came out.
R was not ready and neither were lots of tools that we use here
at work. Good luck
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Rodney,
Thanks for your quick reply.
It turns out this is just a problem with the base R for Mac graphics window
(which is to say, the version I like). I can still use R-studio (which I don’t
like as much).
I can wait patiently for a patch to the Mac version while using R-Studio.
That way I don’t have to go through the hassle of trying to reinstall 13.x and
dumping 14.0.
Bill
On Oct 1, 2023, at 11:22 AM, Sparapani, Rodney <rspar...@mcw.edu> wrote:
Hi Bill:
Well, I am usually pretty cautious about this. I don’t move to the
next release until R is ready. For Ventura, it took quite awhile
before that happened. Sorry
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Dear Mac users of R and developers.
I recently updated to the Sonoma OS for Mac (14.0) and it has a serious
problem for graphics.
plot(1:10) creates a graphic window but I can not switch back to the console
window using either command-1 or the mouse.
Anybody else having this problem? Any suggestions for a patch?
I am running a MacBook Pro with M1 Max.
Bill
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