ProFox List Statistics for December 2021

2022-01-01 Thread List Administrator Account
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ProFox List Statistics
December 2021
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Subscriber Count at End of Month:
ProFox: 299
ProFoxTech: 183
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Total Posts: 49
(Up 36.11% from November 2021)

Total [OT] Posts: 0
(Unchanged from November 2021)

Total [NF] Posts: 3
(Down 75.0% from November 2021)


Daily Message Counts for December 2021

DOW  Date  Count
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 W 1  -   3
 T 2  -   5
 T 7  -   1
 F10  -   1
 T16  -  15
 F17  -   7
 T21  -   4
 W22  -   3
 M27  -   3
 T28  -   1
 W29  -   6


Message Counts By Day of Week for December 2021

DOW  Count
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Mon -3
Tue -6
Wed -   12
Thu -   20
Fri -8


Distinct Posters to the List
(changes relative to November 2021)

Non-OT messages: 18 (Up 12.5%)
OT messages: 0 (Unchanged)
NF messages: 3 (Down 62.5%)
Total number: 18 (Up 12.5%)


Top 19 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.8MB Software Solutions, LLC 
  2.7Tracy Pearson 
  3.5Richard Kaye 
  4.4Jeff Roberts 
  5.4Ken McGinnis 
  6.3Ted Roche 
  7.3Chris Davis 
  8.2Michael Oke, II 
  9.2Dave Crozier 
 10.2Graham Brown 
 11.1List Administrator Account 
 12.1Alan Bourke 
 13.1
 14.1Vince Teachout 
 15.1Eric Selje 
 16.1
 17.1Ajit Abraham 
 18.1Frank Cazabon 
 19.1Bill Anderson 


Top 0 Contributors by Number of OT Posts

|Posts   OT%  Contributor  |



Top 3 Contributors by Number of NF Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.1
  2.1Ted Roche 
  3.1MB Software Solutions, LLC 


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  2.7Tracy Pearson 
  3.5Richard Kaye 
  4.4Jeff Roberts 
  5.4Ken McGinnis 
  6.3Ted Roche 
  7.3Chris Davis 
  8.2Michael Oke, II 
  9.2Dave Crozier 
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 11.1List Administrator Account 
 12.1Alan Bourke 
 13.1
 14.1Vince Teachout 
 15.1Eric Selje 
 16.1
 17.1Ajit Abraham 
 18.1Frank Cazabon 
 19.1Bill Anderson 


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|Posts   Contributor   |

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  2.1List Administrator Account 
  3.1Jeff Roberts 
  4.1
  5.1Graham Brown 
  6.1MB Software Solutions, LLC 
  7.1Dave Crozier 
  8.1Ted Roche 
  9.1Chris Davis 
 10.1Tracy Pearson 


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  1.   10Windows 11 ads and unexpected restarts on Win 10

gcc-10-20211231 is now available

2021-12-31 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211231 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211231/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 5832371ab73b56015f6e05e8714abe93b214ba7c

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211231.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=35df28f34457880f116e13731fc1d95b90433ac8d9560cf613dd8b694528e7e0
  SHA1=cf54dbe41e3b3dce2d24c15077c4f92801347233

Diffs from 10-20211224 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211230 is now available

2021-12-30 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211230 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211230/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 218f5148de327759769468030496bd370102bd64

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211230.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=615dd83371326b63f16eac8bb47ee686ad5fba6547a3518ec749234b6246e11b
  SHA1=0818b925d5fb31206ad17ce3ac784b24254df60c

Diffs from 9-20211223 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-12-20211226 is now available

2021-12-26 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211226 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211226/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision d87483015d476a95f521f0c9dcf6988ca889063b

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211226.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=f1eb267eee673b31b059d6db3ab0880d6d056aa722fc875ba35384b537483f6c
  SHA1=3fd1532c84057eb6e5acba682a19517affcb3351

Diffs from 12-20211219 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211225 is now available

2021-12-25 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211225 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211225/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision b79bfb7f526018bc0017395f40deab017843844b

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211225.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=057d90f546ff6853e58828beddde20c16289c4edb01e28acdfcbe03970408a98
  SHA1=15f81ddb3209e2646fd92e7cce9dca3b494b3804

Diffs from 11-20211218 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211224 is now available

2021-12-24 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211224 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211224/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision d656bf1a2357ecb10d3724ed9f6ff108733fb923

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211224.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=801aff2d0d43ad81f308adfe60f7984c85c5393fe40188bb2af2ae1f969afbf3
  SHA1=a488e7ab91970b4df4976e76787b68c2fba6a9ee

Diffs from 10-20211217 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: Can PHP downloads be put on distcache?

2021-12-24 Thread DutchDaemon - FreeBSD Forums Administrator

On 24/12/2021 09:08, Christian Ullrich wrote:

Hello,

PHP have, apparently recently, broken ports downloads by putting their CDN's 
I-guess-you-are-not-human-so-go-away-right-now "protection" in front of 
MASTER_SITES=PHP.

In lieu of working around this by, say, downloading from GitHub [1] instead, is 
it possible to carry the archives on distcache, at least until the PHP people 
regain their senses? How do I request that from the correct people?

[1] MASTER_SITES=https://www.github.com/php/web-php-distributions/raw/master/

Thanks,


FreeBSD.org clusteradm  (Cc:) - does this hat 
fit you?


DD.



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gcc-9-20211223 is now available

2021-12-23 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211223 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211223/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision e08ac1a01b18076520c12ab0997dd59d6b0b7ad8

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211223.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=3471eb642fd65261af439eb32fbddf9ad1b3ca395305e392f391392f2a1a5b20
  SHA1=5b7d79c3d451206aced06b0dd6013c237debaf4b

Diffs from 9-20211216 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-12-20211219 is now available

2021-12-19 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211219 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211219/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision fcbf94a5be9e0c1ecad92da773a6632b86b7f70a

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211219.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=a0052f408fe84f4bb3fad6faefd806a6ff999caa6a4de2add9e53b475f82ad49
  SHA1=484e0fddc2601bdd7406898b51818ad957a88810

Diffs from 12-20211212 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211218 is now available

2021-12-18 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211218 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211218/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision 8320b0e2997bc656228b1ef40da7c197fed0347b

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211218.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=775bb5ac91e69774726e0903ea8309a1e3e0f0ffe2a5feb8703a40605c3f1c11
  SHA1=0f18632b6ad472f88d0215467cb4821512a92e66

Diffs from 11-20211211 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211217 is now available

2021-12-17 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211217 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211217/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision a28d6903677629c23bac53ff061eb80f22d51006

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211217.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=2fbc60bd75ca4a13fa18b976a31a10bd0f8a74204cbd1823f13c01f69f7572a6
  SHA1=f42d34ff681d2489ffc8f8c8fdea152d9fe8bf9e

Diffs from 10-20211210 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211216 is now available

2021-12-16 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211216 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211216/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 6fa3bbe854f8a9066c390b802e6a69ef463ede7c

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211216.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=677e98e62d2bb4275c958b3ce6ecec3e1f9f88086bf6d7047579b94e943206d2
  SHA1=a808fa464370009498cf9d13098f60207a42ac83

Diffs from 9-20211209 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-12-20211212 is now available

2021-12-12 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211212 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211212/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision 0b52083ea2c2dd9897031fdc3802a68fd4aa45ef

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211212.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=d25b06a064b6962fbb52b7ae7f15fccdc4b6bbe8d0933b04432339ee5d80ab9e
  SHA1=ebe339b707c57340a6c77dd614b1ecbca73448cb

Diffs from 12-20211205 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211211 is now available

2021-12-11 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211211 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211211/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision b1bc9dba5c720b67d19df4d94634bb89ad5ade23

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211211.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=b7c085fa837aacae39575a6b42c3eb96367e0e21083938e56f8abf1554cb1b32
  SHA1=7fcd34c62a8f80ce25bfc7463097ab92f6a9c4d9

Diffs from 11-20211204 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211210 is now available

2021-12-10 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211210 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211210/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 45cbfabe01878c3efd8b24f3fef06baf48983308

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211210.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=4a5de40362d73a0022d897f4260dac929568e5c64ad6f6138dec016b09fa821c
  SHA1=c16f4e5be3fb242d0d60c4a169817f15f7379e57

Diffs from 10-20211203 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211209 is now available

2021-12-09 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211209 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211209/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 3ff63324300b14d081b6fbba8499c342d36bdb70

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211209.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=3ab3846325be31f387c8cee3f5f62fe31e754e7d0c5c6015cdc17886f2622958
  SHA1=8ae8b81d41f4a86be8a94d5c0d20dbe220456559

Diffs from 9-20211202 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-12-20211205 is now available

2021-12-05 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211205 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211205/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision c9419faef0bfaf31e6a6f744baa064892e0d105c

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211205.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=09f18173fd725e45313e184a0a0b06ef75ecc4096b21882586bb1652a6b5f358
  SHA1=b2f009859661df2b5bbf4a5995793e3d86b72bb6

Diffs from 12-20211128 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211204 is now available

2021-12-04 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211204 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211204/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision 217d8bf22b148ebe52456a4bccfe9d725e7c68e9

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211204.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=3a673d21417a4a37c0c58bddfc7d3e6e6781defb35eb49f96184ed391dc5c7d1
  SHA1=05a70dcc592327c30e7c9c44c8b488cc31239b8d

Diffs from 11-20211127 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211203 is now available

2021-12-03 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211203 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211203/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 1a11b7c860f9305cdcf0d1ad9d8a7f3b512d546e

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211203.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=5be67eef2052e532485de04083429785fe932e476f5ed3c30886c14cc8da8e93
  SHA1=68978343858bbdcf5f508b0004d0f0f466bcf78d

Diffs from 10-20211126 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211202 is now available

2021-12-02 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211202 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211202/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 1e41474603a88bbc2b715dc981f7ef5d3238bdb6

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211202.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=0f91df803c7a2121c7cf34277cf95d051f9003262f3dcfe03204a73752ac75a1
  SHA1=1fec08d021b01e4d9db7cf6bed1986a6b3bcd5be

Diffs from 9-20211125 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


[dabo-users] Dabo-users List Statistics for November 2021

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ProFox List Statistics for November 2021

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ProFox List Statistics
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Subscriber Count at End of Month:
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Total Posts: 36
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Distinct Posters to the List
(changes relative to October 2021)

Non-OT messages: 16 (Down 33.33%)
OT messages: 0 (Unchanged)
NF messages: 8 (Up 33.33%)
Total number: 16 (Down 33.33%)


Top 16 Contributors by Number of Non-OT Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.6Tracy Pearson 
  2.6Jeff Roberts 
  3.3Philip Borkholder 
  4.3Alan Bourke 
  5.3Rick Schummer 
  6.2Malcolm Greene 
  7.2Eric Selje 
  8.2MB Software Solutions, LLC 
  9.2Stephen Russell 
 10.1List Administrator Account 
 11.1Man-wai Chang 
 12.1Jürgen Wondzinski 
 13.1Paul H. Tarver 
 14.1foxdev 
 15.1Ed Leafe 
 16.1Vince Teachout 


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Top 8 Contributors by Number of NF Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.3Philip Borkholder 
  2.2Alan Bourke 
  3.2Malcolm Greene 
  4.1Jürgen Wondzinski 
  5.1Jeff Roberts 
  6.1Stephen Russell 
  7.1Vince Teachout 
  8.1MB Software Solutions, LLC 


Top 16 Contributors by Total Number of Posts

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.6Tracy Pearson 
  2.6Jeff Roberts 
  3.3Philip Borkholder 
  4.3Alan Bourke 
  5.3Rick Schummer 
  6.2Malcolm Greene 
  7.2Eric Selje 
  8.2MB Software Solutions, LLC 
  9.2Stephen Russell 
 10.1List Administrator Account 
 11.1Man-wai Chang 
 12.1Jürgen Wondzinski 
 13.1Paul H. Tarver 
 14.1foxdev 
 15.1Ed Leafe 
 16.1Vince Teachout 


Top 6 Contributors by Number of New Threads Started

|Posts   Contributor   |

  1.2Stephen Russell 
  2.1List Administrator Account 
  3.1Jeff Roberts 
  4.1MB Software Solutions, LLC 
  5.1Tracy Pearson 
  6.1Paul H. Tarver 


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can understand
  5.4ReFox Or Something Like It
  6.2Fatal error 708 while trying to report error 708 -- do I win a 
prize???
  7.2For all of you Forms guys...
  8.2AW: [NF] Windows 10 32 bit on current Hardware
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gcc-12-20211128 is now available

2021-11-28 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211128 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211128/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision 2899d49e3701a4df18a336a680a7095cc99a2229

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211128.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=c201acfa76234f2a6c33075894c88cf0fa1de9cb6709bf14da71d960172b78b2
  SHA1=04e31c1a0ae09183f079f5377291c91644be6d78

Diffs from 12-20211121 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
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gcc-11-20211127 is now available

2021-11-27 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211127 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211127/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision 7320f5d405177c82ed554188cad74d2ab4030b8f

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211127.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=212194169caceabca49ed5c21c4fa17a732c6bd3f0cbcc0e4b2d04296972540f
  SHA1=c0019d8282ebbe89e7e7e447861fb13173731fa7

Diffs from 11-20211120 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211126 is now available

2021-11-26 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211126 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211126/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 376b2c781d11f55644e92dfea91c3f214f20f4ac

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211126.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=60bd8c44895a223c694f734d4c5b9e3b9356b693c611cc81b961caf50df1953a
  SHA1=9de6cd388f26fc2dad26b6607d2ec5561dbe8dda

Diffs from 10-2029 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211125 is now available

2021-11-25 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211125 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211125/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 3d1f5e86fb4351a109d45fe441b1b00d6e56c277

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211125.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=8e9f79a98e8fffa14dc98ea6731b2e18fb7016a36f4d21d28d5e81575ffdcee2
  SHA1=6ff9b4788c37ab0ae4640116f7103b5304564f72

Diffs from 9-2028 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-12-20211121 is now available

2021-11-21 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211121 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211121/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision da17c304e22ba256eba0b03710aa329115163b08

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211121.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=ffcdc0a91939fe2202fbcc91ed7abea61b509e3c207ac439867cb4523f601240
  SHA1=f486de57f072aef27add1452a12a243d3679a393

Diffs from 12-2024 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211120 is now available

2021-11-20 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211120 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211120/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision c2079b9a7879ec4da5632f7282fa5732404af8c5

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211120.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=33f5bc8fe6c78339f8c567bb7450406bb09edfb62d6282798b727630437a52ef
  SHA1=95679a56d3a6ab09cf1bd5ff5b93fd94e9a48b8c

Diffs from 11-2023 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211119 is now available

2021-11-19 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-2029 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-2029/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 651a542822d4eea7d6328ad365bb45d1d52acc1e

You'll find:

 gcc-10-2029.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=33c490e893c32ee81e3a88620ed35cbe786abc07897b4df19a3ea76d0a3b92be
  SHA1=0cdbfea427f001cf940621ac3f64db81569a6d64

Diffs from 10-2022 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211118 is now available

2021-11-18 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-2028 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-2028/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 00cd1677a6481cd0d5c0269ac7944ecbe3e32c1a

You'll find:

 gcc-9-2028.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=e1ac1cf959893b8f9b8976825b6a6dba5dfbbc578784eb8f847e4bcaf72efe6f
  SHA1=a9adf817d9d6af3cd1c5df9dec562eb0a4e26483

Diffs from 9-2021 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: [EVDL] Sarasota Mechanic help

2021-11-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 12 Nov 2021 at 23:28, Frank Bonilla via EV wrote:

> We are looking for some mechanical help with our project in the Sarasota, Fl
> area. Thanks.

Hi Frank.  The closest possibility I can think of (and recommend) would be 
Steve Clunn in Crystal River.  He's not very close, but maybe you could work 
something out.  Steve is on this list. and you can find his website by 
searching for his business name, Green Shed Conversions. 

You might also contact the Electric Auto Association, electricauto.org -  
their website lists several chapters in Florida, with contact information 
for each.  Maybe one of them can give you a reference.

Good luck!  I hope you find someone to help you out.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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gcc-12-20211114 is now available

2021-11-14 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-2024 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-2024/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision 3057f1ab737582a9fb37a3fb967ed8bf3659f2f4

You'll find:

 gcc-12-2024.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=6f63c011a427228ccf3d3503852f5139c2e3281c574df861c2afab21086eee47
  SHA1=c945aa0a2a40f49fdc1340be92c6ab33165687fb

Diffs from 12-20211107 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: [EVDL] EV album down?

2021-11-14 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
I'm getting "Connection reset while the page was loading" here.  That's at 
lest somewhat more promising than "Can't find the server" or "This domain is 
for sale."

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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 supposed to bring us money and stolen office supplies.  If we 
 are going to perform any ritual at work, let it be to invite 
 a demon into the sacred circle to smite our enemy, Liz in 
 Human Resources.

   - Jessa Crispin
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gcc-11-20211113 is now available

2021-11-13 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-2023 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-2023/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision 29618f1c8ae614bfbcb5ac310e094ec720fca47b

You'll find:

 gcc-11-2023.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=ee18c850307814075663a2afc52c21ccfa661d784025294312128df7130f863b
  SHA1=a33d419904be974e5b1389750835fb071f34adb1

Diffs from 11-20211106 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: [EVDL] EV album down?

2021-11-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 13 Nov 2021 at 12:13, nathan christiansn via EV wrote:

> This morning, I noticed that the EV album website would not load no matter
> what device I tried to access it on. Is anyone else having this problem or is
> it just me?

It's not working for me either.  

I'm far from an expert on these matters so maybe someone who is will weigh 
in, but a whois inquiry shows that evalbum.com's domain registration is 
current.  

https://www.whois.com/whois/evalbum.com

The DNS servers are given as dns*.name-services.com - which I think are the 
registrar's own servers.  It may be that the domain forwards to another 
page, which itself is down.  Permanently or temporarily, who knows?

The album is a useful EV resource and I'd certainly hate to lose it.  It was 
sad enough when the EV trading post shut down.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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 You are being attacked
 He is getting his just desserts

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gcc-10-20211112 is now available

2021-11-12 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-2022 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-2022/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 88638b060a870b90e9cc73a0ea4726d5ae1986eb

You'll find:

 gcc-10-2022.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=0816c4e8e64af9fd4bda34e9c05f9a052644fd0d4479eee748ea9caf0ed5abe4
  SHA1=02cf0f1c6b03528c5af6e6200b12a6cf8e552de1

Diffs from 10-20211105 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-10
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-9-20211111 is now available

2021-11-11 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-2021 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-2021/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 65c7c67ad6d093b58cb2143003b8ac90fa40d907

You'll find:

 gcc-9-2021.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=52e27fe2112d253ce12a66a944004c9204a73cada7847c8d9c45d5d63f97d917
  SHA1=2a43390d536b888f9a5ffc4dbfa902e7b7cde839

Diffs from 9-20211104 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: [EVDL] Tesla fast charging converters

2021-11-07 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 7 Nov 2021 at 19:12, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:

> No images pass through the list.

Please post your photos in a PUBLIC, OPEN place (no signup or login 
required, please, even if it's free).  

That means ABSOLUTELY NOT EVER on Fakebook or Tweezer.  Not even on an 
allegedly public page.  Sorry, I'm weird about this.  

Then post a link to the list.

I use Postimage

https://postimages.org/

It works great.

For those who wonder why the list filters out pictures:

When the list was young, a lot of subscribers were on slow and/or pay by the 
KB or MB connections.  

Now hardly anyone is.  However, the default size of digital photos has gone 
completely insane, 10-16mp, with file sizes in the 3-20mb range.  And a 
large number of users *cannot* be convinced to resize them before posting. 

Therefore the "no photo attachments" policy remains for now.  You're welcome 
to try to convince me to change it.

And get off my lawn.  

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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gcc-12-20211107 is now available

2021-11-07 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-12-20211107 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/12-20211107/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 12 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch master 
revision 962ff7d2849e1fa6a1fe0535aa2dec5c2b9a32a6

You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211107.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=62ba58b3c1871a3a71b68f21ec9648dd524b6409f86917a46c2bf1f9ed568c82
  SHA1=4500615f647af8150848fa389938eea6dcd6cf5a

Diffs from 12-20211031 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-11-20211106 is now available

2021-11-06 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-11-20211106 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/11-20211106/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 11 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-11 revision 32584d0252716a94c037d9fc5a4fd7f65ed17d7c

You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211106.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=7ab7505307433c8b9f9b8ac7c70c7592414cad76b7aaec5c9666164eb2492af2
  SHA1=78b45fd272d24badacf9cb4fbd66a5c38093b639

Diffs from 11-20211030 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-11
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


gcc-10-20211105 is now available

2021-11-05 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211105 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/10-20211105/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 10 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch 
releases/gcc-10 revision 0aca7ed3177dd56d6d8e2ea70b8cbc43b3b9072b

You'll find:

 gcc-10-20211105.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=464584bf29b297bc3d27f617b14f72c345314581e106adbf24802ae40eabd7a5
  SHA1=522c6253713898dee3021c4eab80caf3bcff01e2

Diffs from 10-20211029 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

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link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


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gcc-9-20211104 is now available

2021-11-04 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211104 is now available on
  https://gcc.gnu.org/pub/gcc/snapshots/9-20211104/
and on various mirrors, see http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html for details.

This snapshot has been generated from the GCC 9 git branch
with the following options: git://gcc.gnu.org/git/gcc.git branch releases/gcc-9 
revision 321ce15186ae15738074753d0e366a58900a304e

You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211104.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=6282d73e27b15db424bf25cfb620d55b5c1be74a47d8596836ec03262650b504
  SHA1=fe0515f3158b5a4cb274f024519ca02967ac37e5

Diffs from 9-20211028 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-9
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


Re: [EVDL] looking for 40kw battery leaf

2021-11-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Nov 2021 at 11:52, David Nelson via EV wrote:

> I don't know where to source a 40kWh (note it is not kw, but kWh,
> kilowatt-hour) battery for a Leaf

Yup.  KW measures the battery's ability to deliver power, not its energy 
storage capacity.  

But who knows?  Maybe some Leaf owners really DO want 40kW batteries.

After accounting for efficiency, a 40kW battery would give a Leaf roughly 
the power of a 1961 VW Beetle, in a car that weighs over twice as much - and 
doesn't have a 4-speed transmission for torque multiplication. 

Thirty or 40 years ago, 40kW was a typical small-car conversion - 96 volts 
with a 400 amp controller.  A 2500lb car with a forklift motor bolted to the 
stock 4- or 5-speed transmission could usually manage a top speed of around 
65mph, if you were prepared to give it the better part of a minute and 
didn't have too much of a headwind.

In a 3400lb car with a single-gear transaxle, things might be a bit more 
dicey.  But maybe the OP is up to the challenge. :-)

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Re: [EVDL] Recycled battery materials perform as well as or even better than virgin materials

2021-11-02 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 2 Nov 2021 at 14:21, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> But it's good to see that it's possible to extract metals and reuse
> them, unlike compared to the plastics recycling debacle. 

Here in the US, our problem is that we've let successful recycling be 
defined as profitable recycling.  In some EU nations, governments require 
plastic recycling, period.  It costs more than using new plastic?  OK, we'll 
subsidize the cost, because recycling is an essential public good.

Most of these places are also phasing in regulations to limit plastic use. 
THAT is the real key to controlling plastic waste.  What comes first in 
reduce-reuse-recycle? 

For batteries:

Longer cycle life and higher specific energy => reduce
Transfer partly spent EV batteries to stationary energy storage => reuse
Recover materials for new batteries => recycle

> That implies 10% waste plus all the waste created from the 
> extraction process. On a large scale that would be a huge amount of, 
> probably, very toxic waste.

This is where it gets sticky.  Trading one environmental disaster-in-the-
making for another might meet legal requirements and generate some good 
greenwashing PR, but it isn't really progress.  

We have to avoid repeating the mistakes we've made with lead batteries.  
It's true that most of the materials in them are recycled, and that's good, 
but too much of the processing is done in third-world nations with limited 
and/or unenforced regulation.  

We have a chance to do it right this time.  Instead of letting the battery 
manufacturers ship scrap batteries thousands of miles (using heavy oil 
fueled high-pollution container ships) to get cheaper labor and limited 
regulation, we need some laws with teeth:

1. The process itself has to be as safe as possible.

2. It has to be carried out under strong environmental regulations in 
nations that actually enforce those regulations.

3. It should be done close to where the batteries and materials are used. 

While this process can for sure relieve the pressure on raw materials supply 
- and we absolutely need that for the kind of EV goals that several EU 
countries are setting - IMO governments will have to step in early to make 
sure that the net environmental effect ends up being positive.  Otherwise 
the battery manufacturers and materials suppliers will - as always - do 
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gcc-12-20211031 is now available

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gcc-11-20211030 is now available

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gcc-10-20211029 is now available

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gcc-9-20211028 is now available

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-25 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 20:23, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:

> Were you making a joke, or did you not know that California passed such a law
> 7 years ago?

"Landlords are required to allow tenants to install EV charging stations" is 
a good thing, but it isn't the same as "requiring owners of apartments of 
more than, say, 4 units, to provide L2 or better EV charging points."  

I'm a property owner.  Not that it's likely around here, but if one of my 
tenants said that he had an EV and wanted an EVSE for charging it, I'd pay 
for the installation with the understanding that the EVSE stayed with the 
unit when the tenant moved. I'm pretty sure that I could take depreciation 
deductions for it on my income tax.

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Re: [EVDL] Study compares electric vehicle charge costs vs. gas — and results were misleading Yahoo

2021-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 22:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

> Mr. Anderson and his company have 20 years-experience of consulting
> with the auto industry and have been providing accurate data over that
> time to many publications. 

With very few exceptions, success as a consultant hinges on determining what 
answer your client wants to hear, and delivering that answer.

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 13:35, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:

> I'd say there's no way Tesla is going to "open up" the supercharging
> network in the US, even in the next 2 years, let alone the end of this
> year.

It's quite likely that you know more about this than I do, but I don't think 
that Elon Musk is going to stop clawing in every cent for miles around until 
he's comfortably and irreversibly in first place as richest person on Earth.

If he thinks that he can make more money charging non-Tesla EVs, I assure 
you that it will happen.

Personally, though, I don't think that's the case yet, and may never be.  US 
EV sales other than Tesla are still less than spectacular, so it's hard to 
see Tesla spending the bucks retrofitting their charging points to support 
them.

> They can (and are being legally required to) in Europe, where they have
> already switched most of their network  

Perhaps not coincidentally, EV sales are rising much more quickly in Europe 
than they are in the US.  

And although the Tesla 3 is selling well there since they've finally  
reduced their EU prices to a more competitive level, Tesla is a relative 
latecomer (about 8-9 years late), and they don't represent the percentage of 
registered EVs that they do in the US.

Regardless of EU law, allowing all EU EVs to charge at Tesla EU charging 
points is smart business for Tesla.

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 18:53, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote:

> Why wouldn't folks make use of the time needed to charge their car by
> doing so at a charger at their favorite store? They'll have to be
> inside it for a certain period of time anyway. 

Exactly. That's the current situation in rural France.  Public charging is 
essential because many people live as Cor describes, in what we'd call 
townhouses or rowhouses.  Some houses have garages, but many don't.

Supermarkets and Target-style places often provide free charging.  So do 
municipal buildings. If you're mostly driving locally, that's all you really 
need. 

Free is good, but I really long for the day when charging an EV will be just 
like fueling an ICEV - drive down the main drag comparing the price slates 
in front of the charging stations, pull into the one with known-clean 
restrooms and good coffee, pop your credit card into the scanner, and charge 
up.

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gcc-12-20211024 is now available

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 13:09, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

> The national average is 67% of people live in single family detached homes.
> But after using that figure for a few years  awoke to the fact that in the
> mid-atlantic population (Maryland) the ratio is 50%

The problem is, that's not the statistic we need.  We need to know how many 
people don't have garages or adjacent dedicated parking.

I think that California should pass a law requiring owners of apartments of 
more than, say, 4 units, to provide L2 or better EV charging points equal to 
some percentage of their complex's units.  Other states should too, but CA 
is one of the few that actually might do it.

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Re: [EVDL] (no subject)

2021-10-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Oct 2021 at 7:15, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

>  I was out when she said $600 for level 1. That is absurd. 

It's not absurd if the article's writer is trying to inflate the cost of 
owning an EV, while minimizing the cost of owning an ICEV.  

Most writers with a goal of slamming EVs do this by using worst-case numbers 
for EVs against best-case numbers for ICEVs.  This one apparently couldn't 
get the results her boss wanted even using that method, so she had to use 
wrong figures instead.  

I'm sure it was just an innocent accident, though. :-\

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gcc-11-20211023 is now available

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You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211023.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=9ae3505c82a9e321d4de55e24eb8e36eba65e079e2e10b26fcfc0f6351d319aa
  SHA1=22649f723447b95a3047032a5f11c7c3b4cfad09

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 23 Oct 2021 at 16:27, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

> EVs are charged while parked (usually at home or at work), not at
> public chargers.

I don't know that I'd say anything quite as final as "not at public 
chargers," but for sure there's much more home charging than public 
charging. 

There are certainly people who live in apartments and townhouses in big US 
cities and have to park on the street.  

This is also somewhat true in Europe, but some lucky few there have 
alleyways behind their houses where they can park and charge from a 
weatherproof EVSE on the outside wall of the house.

For those who need it, public charging websites and apps help find the most 
affordable (even free) public charging.  As charging options grow, 
competition is apt to drive down the overall cost.  

Meanwhile, I think that the gasoline prices in that article are a bit out of 
date.  It's also not calculating the higher maintenance and repair costs for 
an ICEV, nor is it allowing for the differing externalized public costs.  
But that's what these articles do.  They choose their data so as to arrive 
at the desired or required conclusion.

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Re: [EVDL] Michigan still spouting FUD. From the Detroit not so free press.

2021-10-23 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Ho hum - another day, another thumb-on-the-scale anti-EV article. 

The author is correct about finding public charging here in the Midwest - 
it's still a problem.  Also true: public charging costs vary more than 
gasoline and Diesel costs do.  

In part those facts are related.  Increasing competition among public 
charging providers will eventually lead to a situation more like that of 
filling stations, for better and/or worse.  

Also true: EVs currently cost more than the ICEV equivalent.  

Here in the US, this may or may not change in the future, depending on how 
successful articles like this are at depressing demand for EVs.  

In the EU, it's already changing, and governments that actually WANT to cut 
CO2 and promote renewables provide serious EV subsidies.  It also doesn't 
hurt that the EU has a rapidly growing stable of small, cheap, limited range 
city EVs that you'll never see here in the US.

However, the article's "fueling" cost analysis is WAY off, most decidedly 
NOT "apples to apples."  Most people who own EVs don't use expensive paid 
public charging exclusively - or even much.

It's up to you, but I wouldn't waste my time responding to this hit piece. 
Especially with today's tribal-cult attitudes, you won't budge the convicted 
grease-heads, and those in the EV choir don't need to be preached to. 

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gcc-10-20211022 is now available

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Snapshot gcc-10-20211022 is now available on
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 gcc-10-20211022.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=e101e13cadf93fd4fe838fd03ff48cfe3c10e692a35c42ed06eb91e5ec8bbf40
  SHA1=46854b45dc7cd3fb19170e5960fdba1b262c65b1

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Re: [EVDL] What Tesla’s bet on iron-based batteries means for manufacturers | TechCrunch

2021-10-21 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 22 Oct 2021 at 11:48, Verne Pavreal via EV wrote:

> Is the article behind a pay wall my iPhone Safari browser just complains a
> problem has occurred cheers

heretrythislinkinstead

https://v.gd/Vp0b5X


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gcc-9-20211021 is now available

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 gcc-9-20211021.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=0935a8ba1f42b262cff3d18785bb0c392f1fd383bbebf56ad3ffe6a240c80161
  SHA1=ebd47f4d8eb612919272d1808487e036b62b4355

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gcc-12-20211017 is now available

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You'll find:

 gcc-12-20211017.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=3250afd454b73600b61ccf41407bacc225087b9668eeb341408751f6e3384778
  SHA1=353ed77e101074ba39aae54c6136c4db5c18233d

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Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-17 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 17 Oct 2021 at 12:20, John Lussmyer via EV wrote:

> it appears that battery input needs at least 400V. 

Well, that's a disappointment.  For a minute there I thought that it might 
be a way to derive lots of kW worth of 120v at 60Hz from 230-240v at 50Hz, 
just by adding a big bridge rectifier and some high voltage electrolytics. 

I guess it's back to plan A, a 48v 1100 watt Exeltech inverter fed from a 
big 240v-in 52v-out surplus computer power supply.  

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 And the ones who say there isn't.
 Why don't you come on back to the war, pick up your tiny burden.
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gcc-11-20211016 is now available

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 gcc-11-20211016.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=5216122f4a2dd5a8cd059d7945b3edf6c1a2430c0a2687ccb63d74cc3f0a2bc7
  SHA1=879b2c46e34103683d9095a8dcdf0074563d1b0a

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Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-16 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 16 Oct 2021 at 12:07, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

> Which is why the HV input product is needed.  A 1500W inverter from wal
> mart is only $100  (one tenth as much) and the only difference is the
> input circuitry and winding on the HV transformer. 

Maybe someday.  

Keep in mind that those $100 12 and 24 volt truck stop inverters are 
something of a special case.  They're disposable commodity items probably 
made in the hundreds of thousands in Chinese sweatshops, with components 
produced in the millions in other Chinese sweatshops, using reference 
designs funded years ago by the Chinese government.  The cost to set up 
manufacturing of these is low, and the competition among manufacturers has 
to be cutthroat.

As soon as a manufacturer deviates from the reference design, they have 
additional costs for design, testing, and certification (if they don't 
counterfeit the regulatory marks).  Component quantities go down, so 
component cost goes up.  Production is lower.  Competition is less.  So the 
retail price goes up.

It's a fairly safe bet that some Chinese entrepreneur is out there keeping 
an eye on the potential market for a 200+ volt input inverter.  When he sees 
a decent profit in one, it will get introduced.  If it sells well, others 
will hop on the bandwagon.  Then component costs will fall as production 
scales up, and competition will most likely drive the finished inverter 
price down into the few-hundred range.

Of course all this assumes that 5 years from now the US and China aren't  
lobbing nuclear missiles at each other, and/or sabotaging each others' 
internet.  If that happens, you can forget the $100 truck stop inverters, 
too.  And that will be the least of your worries.

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Re: [EVDL] HV DC input -to- 120VDC output inverter???

2021-10-15 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 15 Oct 2021 at 16:57, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

> Have you considered filling the strong market need for a 200-500 VDC input to
> 120 VAC output 2 kW inverter that can be used on Solar systems to charge any
> EV (via its own EVSE) independent of the grid.  There is a CRYING need for
> this high-demand inverter.

That's a good idea.  But I don't know why you'd want it to be 120v.  Maybe 
you can explain that.  

Why wouldn't you want it to produce 240v?  Then you could make it even more 
universally applicable worldwide by adding a selection for 50 or 60 Hz.

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gcc-10-20211015 is now available

2021-10-15 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-10-20211015 is now available on
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 gcc-10-20211015.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=30e37fb7a6638b6a5e1156525e1759c56fe80bb9aceeb8ad19a93433910033c0
  SHA1=e0ae6fedbe76025f39d835202c9f913a232dbd8f

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gcc-9-20211014 is now available

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You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211014.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=48274c21bf94a3ffa9b8e54d86a7a4f871a0699bb06326ee874b44c3874cbd7f
  SHA1=25142bc6b83f4c8074535977393d6f2cb41579ba

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Re: [EVDL] Radio Noise Issue

2021-10-13 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
Could you power the radio from its own battery?  Charge it separately with 
its own charger.

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gcc-12-20211010 is now available

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Snapshot gcc-12-20211010 is now available on
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 gcc-12-20211010.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=8020b83d443834a924f056d6758c3f6ab3327edd87e5d6bc1e2fe17ba931d9aa
  SHA1=bf5b5e59644480d1d0f3354158922a46ddbbe3e2

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gcc-11-20211009 is now available

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Snapshot gcc-11-20211009 is now available on
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You'll find:

 gcc-11-20211009.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=82740b6fcfc5d83867091e8b688b4bba37afda1ab60741ea89fab291935b38d0
  SHA1=5f1360066ea98be753041b75044f5044c1874ecb

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Re: [EVDL] leaf battery for replacement

2021-10-09 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 9 Oct 2021 at 10:54, redscooter via EV wrote:

> I want to get a 30kw or 40kw [battery]

You must mean 30kWh or 40kWh (kilowatt hours).  Hardly anyone these days 
would buy a 3400lb car that only produced 40-55 horsepower (30-40kW).

Saying "my EV gets 4 miles per kilowatt" is like saying "My ICEV gets 36 
miles per horsepower."  It's meaningless.

IMO, this kW vs kWh confusion wouldn't be a problem if, 20 or 30 years ago, 
all of us in the EV world had gotten into the habit of stating EV battery 
capacity in megajoules.  (1 kWh == 3.6 MJ)  

So it goes.

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gcc-10-20211008 is now available

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Snapshot gcc-10-20211008 is now available on
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 gcc-10-20211008.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=c5e83425a9b5c5c94103dbdffce9276646a78b2fffe36715ed18dfb293de8974
  SHA1=f3b01a9ba0669fc6c0df284216f90c0f8516d36a

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gcc-9-20211007 is now available

2021-10-07 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
Snapshot gcc-9-20211007 is now available on
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You'll find:

 gcc-9-20211007.tar.xzComplete GCC

  SHA256=42bccdf3ce34571930223f6e4c1835e9fd0873a7eb91852d1fd87627312cc472
  SHA1=1bfccef2e441f5563d85b7690dcfe48b58ce7d7f

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Open Office Suggestion

2021-10-07 Thread Heroes Outreach Program Administrator
I use OpenOffice Calc to track my personal budget, as well as items and 
budgets for our nonprofit, Heroes Outreach Program. There is one feature 
that I would find very useful and that would save me a lot of time.


When selecting the cell background color or font color, I would like it 
if when you clicked on the button that it would color the box in the 
last color selected rather than having to go into the drop down and 
selecting the same color cell after cell. This function is available in 
Microsoft Excel and I find it very useful and would find it just as 
useful in Open Office Calc. I prefer to use open source software rather 
than feeding Microsoft.


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[PVE-User] NFS Ganesha on guest VM/LXC to share CephFS

2021-10-06 Thread System Administrator via pve-user
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Hi all,

Does anyone have guides to configure NFS Ganesha on guest LXC to share 
host CephFS ? I tried but couldn't get it working.



Thank you in advance.

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Re: [EVDL] "EV to ... home" ==> 2nd EV for 100% solar charging

2021-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Oct 2021 at 18:41, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:

> Going off-grid:
> 
> Buy a used Leaf as a second EV.  Charge each one on
> alternating days.

Good idea!  The main impediment I can see would be the cost of licensing and 
insuring the second car.  

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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Re: V2H

2021-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Oct 2021 at 13:23, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote:

> V2B is vehicle to building and V2x just is used for a generic reference
> for all of them.

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Re: [EVDL] Fwd: Re: V2H

2021-10-05 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 5 Oct 2021 at 13:19, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:

> most of this thread has been discussing V2H, V2B and/or V2X rather
> than V2G

I know that V2G is vehicle to grid.  V2H must be vehicle to house, yes?  
Maybe V2B is vehicle to business (wild guess).  But what is V2X?

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Re: [EVDL] V2H

2021-10-04 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 4 Oct 2021 at 10:19, Tim Economu via EV wrote:

> Paul, a house backup system can in fact be purchased for much less than 
> $78,000. Mine was about $8k. The point is that if it already included in the
> large battery EV you just bought, then it's effectively free. 

Your EV already has a big battery (well most these days do), and a high 
power inverter.  It shouldn't take much extra hardware to make that system 
able to squirt its battery energy out to a changeover panel in your garage 
or cellar.  

That HAS to be cheaper and more convenient than buying yet another battery 
and inverter for your house.  It's hard to imagine it costing even close to 
$8k. It might add (guessing here) 5-10% to the cost of the EV. 

That should make home backup power readily available to many homeowners who 
otherwise might think it wasn't worth the investment for the few times 
they'd need it.  

Add a couple of NEMA 5-15 or 5-20 receptacles to the EV, and apartment 
dwellers might be able to join in the fun too.  

Also, what a great way to power a robust 120v circular saw or drill away 
from home.  (Yeah, I know that cordless power tools exist.)  For example, 
you could buy a sheet of plywood at the lumberyard and cut it into the 
pieces you need right there in the parking lot, so that it fits neatly into 
your car.  Not that I've ever done anything like that in a Home Depot 
parking lot, of course. :-)

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Re: [PVE-User] PVE Firewall not starting with alias any IPv4 address : 0.0.0.0/0

2021-10-04 Thread System Administrator via pve-user
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Basically, I want to create alias of ANY IPv4 address. Usually in network, it 
is represented as 0.0.0.0/0 for IPv4 and ::/0 for IPv6 address.
I don't know. I am new to Proxmox. Didn't try that in previous version.
regards,
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Il 04/10/2021 11:59, System Administrator via pve-user ha scritto:
> > However, when changing prefix length to anything apart from 0, it is works.
> I thinks it should be 32
> >
> > PVE version : 7.0-11
> 
> Has it ever worked before?
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[PVE-User] PVE Firewall not starting with alias any IPv4 address : 0.0.0.0/0

2021-10-04 Thread System Administrator via pve-user
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Hi,

The firewall is not starting with alias defined :  any = 0.0.0.0/0

The error says  "pve-firewall[21154]: status update error: 
ipset_restore_cmdlist: ipset v7.10: Error in line 19: The value of the CIDR 
parameter of the IP address is invalid"


However, when changing prefix length to anything apart from 0, it is works. 

PVE version : 7.0-11


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gcc-12-20211003 is now available

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gcc-11-20211002 is now available

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gcc-10-20211001 is now available

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gcc-9-20210930 is now available

2021-09-30 Thread GCC Administrator via Gcc
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Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home"

2021-09-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 Sep 2021 at 19:13, paul dove via EV wrote:

>  Yes I am because that's the logical conclusion based on life experience. 

Good grief.  That's YOUR "life experience," not anyone else's.

For *YOU*, an EV that can provide backup power may not be a good investment.

Fair enough.  That much is fine.

But then you said, "I doubt very seriously if that´s a significant selling 
point."

If you have market research data that shows that, let's see it. Otherwise 
you're just spitballing.

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Re: [EVDL] Include in events: "EV to power your home"

2021-09-30 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 30 Sep 2021 at 12:03, paul dove via EV wrote:

> I doubt very seriously if thatTMs a significant selling point. My power went
> out maybe 5 times in 40 years.

Don't assume that your experience is the same as everyone else's.  That 
careless error has tripped up no small number of business owners and 
managers.  :-\

There are plenty of rural areas in the US - and elsewhere - where power cuts 
aren't rare events at all.  

That in fact was the case for the area where I live, up until a few years 
ago.  It worthwhile to add a changeover panel and inverter for backup power 
to some circuits.

If an EV buyer lived in such an area, and (for example) had a freezer full 
of expensive food, he might very well choose an EV with backup power 
capability over a similarly priced one that didn't have it.

IMO, we should welcome that kind of competition in the EV business.

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[EVDL] EVLN: Do EVs really need deep-sea mining?

2021-09-28 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
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More than 90% of the estimated 2.2 million species in the ocean remain 
undescribed. And the two-year countdown to deep-sea mining has prompted 
warnings from scientists that we have not sufficiently understood its 
potential impact on biodiversity and ecosystems.

Douglas McCauley, a professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara 
and director of the Benioff Ocean Initiative, says the potential impact of 
deep-sea mining keeps him up at night.

Electrification of vehicle fleets is a "positive pathway" to reduce carbon 
emissions, says McCauley. But he accuses deep-sea mining companies of a 
"false narrative" that we must mine the ocean to meet renewable energy´s 
demand for metals.

*

Increasingly, car companies are joining in the revolt. In March, BMW and 
Volvo, with Google and Samsung, became the first global companies to sign up 
to the World Wildlife Fund´s (WWF) call for a moratorium on deep-sea mining. 
In backing the call, WWF says, the companies committed to not sourcing any 
metals from the seabed, to exclude them from their supply chains and not to 
finance deep-sea mining, until the risks are better understood and the 
alternatives exhausted.

FULL STORY:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/28/false-choice-is-deep-sea-
mining-required-for-an-electric-vehicle-revolution

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gcc-12-20210926 is now available

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 gcc-12-20210926.tar.xz   Complete GCC

  SHA256=bf0225ac83a4c586221c0daa16583769e1bc9e67af9c5b0ebeee3b5f01b1117c
  SHA1=b114aef53b295018d4859f6f8598725800336ac7

Diffs from 12-20210919 are available in the diffs/ subdirectory.

When a particular snapshot is ready for public consumption the LATEST-12
link is updated and a message is sent to the gcc list.  Please do not use
a snapshot before it has been announced that way.


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