[Bug 2058648] Re: Support upgrades from unmerged 22.04 - was: package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified: usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.

2024-03-22 Thread Brian Wilson
Thank you for your help triaging this! This is from the source system.
It is possible that I upgraded from another LTS to 22.04.  I've only
used LTS releases.  See below for usrmerge installation output on the
source system.

$ ls -lath
total 2.1G
drwxrwxrwt  38 root   root  36K Mar 22 09:04 tmp
drwxr-xr-x  55 root   root 1.6K Mar 22 09:03 run
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Mar 20 06:33 boot
drwxr-xr-x 189 root   root  12K Mar 20 06:32 etc
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Mar 20 06:32 bin
drwx--  29 root   root 4.0K Mar 19 19:39 root
drwxr-xr-x  21 root   root 5.0K Mar 18 16:54 dev
drwxrwxrwx  17 wilson frontrow 4.0K Mar 16 07:41 storage
dr-xr-xr-x 534 root   root0 Mar 16 07:41 proc
dr-xr-xr-x  13 root   root0 Mar 16 07:41 sys
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Mar 15 15:16 sbin
drwxr-xr-x  17 root   root 4.0K Mar 13 12:57 var
drwxr-xr-x  16 root   root 4.0K Jan 27 22:38 opt
drwxr-xr-x  19 root   root 4.0K Jan 12 06:24 lib
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Jan 12 06:24 lib64
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Jan 12 06:24 libx32
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Jan 12 06:24 lib32
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Aug 11  2023 srv
drwxr-xr-x  32 root   root 4.0K Feb  4  2023 .
drwxr-xr-x  32 root   root 4.0K Feb  4  2023 ..
drwxrwxrwx   3 root   root 4.0K Feb  4  2023 evs_temp
drwxr-xr-x   9 root   root 4.0K Jan  8  2023 mnt
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root 4.0K Jan  7  2023 storage.old
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Dec 29  2022 media
drwxr-xr-x  15 root   root 4.0K Dec 26  2022 usr
drwxr-xr-x  20 root   root 4.0K Dec 26  2022 snap
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   34 Sep 30  2021 initrd.img -> 
boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-159-generic
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   34 Sep 30  2021 initrd.img.old -> 
boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-158-generic
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   31 Sep 30  2021 vmlinuz -> 
boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-159-generic
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   31 Sep 30  2021 vmlinuz.old -> 
boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-158-generic
drwxr-xr-x  15 root   root 4.0K Feb 24  2021 home
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Feb 24  2021 code
drwxr-xr-x   3 root   root 4.0K Jul 12  2020 new
-rw---   1 root   root 5.1M Jan 17  2020 core
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K May 27  2019 storage-new
drwxrwxr-x   2 root   root 4.0K May 26  2018 cdrom
-rw---   1 root   root 2.0G May 26  2018 swapfile
drwx--   2 root   root  16K May 26  2018 lost+found


On the source system:
# apt-get install usrmerge
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libopts25 sntp
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  usrmerge
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 138 not upgraded.
Need to get 54.7 kB of archives.
After this operation, 205 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy/main amd64 usrmerge all 
25ubuntu2 [54.7 kB]
Fetched 54.7 kB in 0s (314 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package usrmerge.
(Reading database ... 361142 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../usrmerge_25ubuntu2_all.deb ...
Unpacking usrmerge (25ubuntu2) ...
Setting up usrmerge (25ubuntu2) ...
Smartmatch is experimental at /usr/lib/usrmerge/convert-usrmerge line 172.

FATAL ERROR:
Both /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 and /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 
exist.

You can try correcting the errors reported and running again
/usr/lib/usrmerge/convert-usrmerge until it will complete without errors.
Do not install or update other Debian packages until the program
has been run successfully.

dpkg: error processing package usrmerge (--configure):
 installed usrmerge package post-installation script subprocess returned error 
exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 usrmerge
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

root@host:/lib# ls -lath /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2.2M Jan  2 08:22 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
root@host:/lib# ls -lath /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2.2M Jul  6  2022 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6

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Title:
  Support upgrades from unmerged 22.04 - was: package libc6
  2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified: usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
This system was a rsync clone of a baremetal 22.04 system with the
intention of being the drive I test the 24.04 upgrade on before doing
it, so I still have the source system on 22.04 if there is something you
want me to investigate on the source. I suppose the rsync command may
not be syncing correctly or I'm using the wrong flags.

The rsync was done

rsync -qaxH --delete --ignore-errors / /mnt/backup
rsync -qaxH --delete --ignore-errors /boot/efi /mnt/backup/boot

sed -i "s/$SourceRootUUID/$TargetRootUUID/g" /mnt/backup/etc/fstab
sed -i "s/$SourceRootUUID/$TargetRootUUID/g" /mnt/backup/boot/grub/grub.cfg
sed -i "s/$SourceEFIUUID/$TargetEFIUUID/g" /mnt/backup/etc/fstab
sed -i "s/$SourceEFIUUID/$TargetEFIUUID/g" /mnt/backup/boot/grub/grub.cfg
sed -i "s/$SourceRootUUID/$TargetRootUUID/g" 
/mnt/backup/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grub.cfg
chroot /mnt/backup grub-install /dev/$DEV
chroot /mnt/backup /usr/sbin/update-grub

The clone is booted on another baremetal intel 700p.

I've done nothing to specifically remove /usr-merged.

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Title:
  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
root@host:/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu# ls -lath ld*
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 236K Jan  2 08:22 ld-linux-x86-64.so.2

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Title:
  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
dpkg -l output

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  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
root@host:/lib/i386-linux-gnu# ls -lath
total 200K
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4.0K Mar 21 08:36 .
drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 4.0K Mar 21 08:36 ..
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   14 Jun  7  2023 libcap.so.2 -> libcap.so.2.44
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  38K Jun  7  2023 libcap.so.2.44
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 150K May 13  2023 libgcc_s.so.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   46 Dec 26  2022 libgpg-error.so.0.32.1 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgpg-error.so.0.32.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   43 Dec 26  2022 libnss_nis.so.2.0.0 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libnss_nis.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   47 Dec 26  2022 libnss_nisplus.so.2.0.0 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libnss_nisplus.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   40 Dec 26  2022 liblzma.so.5.2.5 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/liblzma.so.5.2.5
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   44 Dec 26  2022 libdbus-1.so.3.19.13 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   41 Dec 26  2022 libcom_err.so.2.1 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcom_err.so.2.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   41 Dec 26  2022 libcrypt.so.1.1.0 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1.1.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   41 Dec 26  2022 libtirpc.so.3.0.0 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libtirpc.so.3.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   42 Dec 26  2022 libkeyutils.so.1.9 -> 
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libkeyutils.so.1.9
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   20 Oct 25  2022 libdbus-1.so.3 -> libdbus-1.so.3.19.13
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   17 Jul 25  2022 libtirpc.so.3 -> libtirpc.so.3.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   17 Jun  1  2022 libcom_err.so.2 -> libcom_err.so.2.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   16 Apr  8  2022 liblzma.so.5 -> liblzma.so.5.2.5
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   23 Mar 24  2022 libnss_nisplus.so.2 -> 
libnss_nisplus.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   19 Mar 24  2022 libnss_nis.so.2 -> libnss_nis.so.2.0.0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   18 Feb 28  2022 libkeyutils.so.1 -> libkeyutils.so.1.9
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   22 Jan 18  2022 libgpg-error.so.0 -> 
libgpg-error.so.0.32.1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   17 Dec 17  2021 libcrypt.so.1 -> libcrypt.so.1.1.0

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  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
# ls -lh /
total 2.1G
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Mar 18 17:26 bin
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Mar 19 16:34 boot
drwxrwxr-x   2 root   root 4.0K May 26  2018 cdrom
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Feb 24  2021 code
-rw---   1 root   root 5.1M Jan 17  2020 core
drwxr-xr-x  20 root   root 4.8K Mar 20 20:33 dev
drwxr-xr-x 189 root   root  12K Mar 21 08:36 etc
drwxrwxrwx   3 root   root 4.0K Feb  4  2023 evs_temp
drwxr-xr-x  15 root   root 4.0K Feb 24  2021 home
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   34 Sep 30  2021 initrd.img -> 
boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-159-generic
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   34 Sep 30  2021 initrd.img.old -> 
boot/initrd.img-4.15.0-158-generic
drwxr-xr-x  19 root   root 4.0K Mar 21 08:36 lib
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Jan 12 06:24 lib64
drwx--   2 root   root  16K May 26  2018 lost+found
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Dec 29  2022 media
drwxr-xr-x   9 root   root 4.0K Jan  8  2023 mnt
drwxr-xr-x   3 root   root 4.0K Jul 12  2020 new
drwxr-xr-x  16 root   root 4.0K Jan 27 22:38 opt
dr-xr-xr-x 333 root   root0 Mar 20 20:33 proc
drwx--  29 root   root 4.0K Mar 21 09:05 root
drwxr-xr-x  51 root   root 1.5K Mar 21 08:36 run
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K Mar 21 08:36 sbin
drwxr-xr-x  20 root   root 4.0K Dec 26  2022 snap
drwxr-xr-x   4 root   root 4.0K Aug 11  2023 srv
drwxr-xr-x   4 wilson frontrow 4.0K Mar 18 17:02 storage
drwxr-xr-x   2 root   root 4.0K May 27  2019 storage-new
drwxr-xr-x   5 root   root 4.0K Jan  7  2023 storage.old
-rw---   1 root   root 2.0G May 26  2018 swapfile
dr-xr-xr-x  13 root   root0 Mar 20 20:33 sys
drwxrwxrwt  21 root   root 4.0K Mar 21 14:09 tmp
drwxr-xr-x  15 root   root 4.0K Dec 26  2022 usr
drwxr-xr-x  17 root   root 4.0K Mar 13 12:57 var
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   31 Sep 30  2021 vmlinuz -> 
boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-159-generic
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root   31 Sep 30  2021 vmlinuz.old -> 
boot/vmlinuz-4.15.0-158-generic


# ls -lh "/lib/ld-linux.so.2.usr-is-merged" "/lib/ld-linux.so.2"
ls: cannot access '/lib/ld-linux.so.2.usr-is-merged': No such file or directory
ls: cannot access '/lib/ld-linux.so.2': No such file or directory

# ls -lat /lib
total 152
drwxr-xr-x 19 root root  4096 Mar 21 08:36 .
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Mar 21 08:36 i386-linux-gnu
drwxr-xr-x 30 root root  4096 Mar 21 08:36 ..
drwxr-xr-x 51 root root  4096 Mar 19 16:33 modules
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Mar 18 17:05 udev
drwxr-xr-x 90 root root 69632 Mar 18 17:04 firmware
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Mar 18 17:04 ifupdown
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 12288 Mar 18 17:04 x86_64-linux-gnu
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root  4096 Mar 18 17:03 systemd
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Nov 19 13:13 netplan
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Aug 18  2023 ufw
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root17 Dec 26  2022 apparmor -> /usr/lib/apparmor
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root19 Dec 26  2022 modprobe.d -> /usr/lib/modprobe.d
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root22 Dec 26  2022 recovery-mode -> 
/usr/lib/recovery-mode
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root16 Dec 26  2022 apcupsd -> /usr/lib/apcupsd
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root13 Dec 26  2022 init -> /usr/lib/init
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root45 Dec 26  2022 klibc-K8e6DOmVI9JpyGMLR7qNe5iZeBk.so 
-> /usr/lib/klibc-K8e6DOmVI9JpyGMLR7qNe5iZeBk.so
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 brltty
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 crda
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 hdparm
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 linux-sound-base
drwxr-xr-x  3 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 lsb
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 console-setup
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Dec 26  2022 resolvconf
drwxr-xr-x 16 root root  4096 Oct  4  2021 terminfo
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root21 Oct 16  2018 cpp -> /etc/alternatives/cpp

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Title:
  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
Attempted removing diversions:

# dpkg-divert --quiet --remove --rename --package base-files --divert 
"/lib.usr-is-merged" "/lib"
# dpkg-divert --quiet --remove --rename --divert 
"/lib/ld-linux.so.2.usr-is-merged" "/lib/ld-linux.so.2"

# apt-get install -f
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libopts25 php8.2-mysql sntp
Use 'apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libc6
Suggested packages:
  glibc-doc
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libc6
1 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2382 not upgraded.
10 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0 B/3,262 kB of archives.
After this operation, 172 kB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.36' not found 
(required by locale)
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR' not found 
(required by locale)
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.38' not found 
(required by locale)
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 361971 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libc6_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.36' not found 
(required by locale)
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_ABI_DT_RELR' not found 
(required by locale)
locale: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.38' not found 
(required by locale)
Checking for services that may need to be restarted...
Checking init scripts...
Checking for services that may need to be restarted...
Checking init scripts...
Stopping some services possibly affected by the upgrade (will be restarted 
later):

dpkg-divert: error: cannot divert directories

Use --help for help about diverting files.
dpkg: error processing archive 
/var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
 new libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error exit 
status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
 /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

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  package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified:
  usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz
  usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz
  usr/share/lintian/overrides/libc6] failed to install/upgrade: new
  libc6:amd64 package pre-installation script subprocess returned error
  exit status 2

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[Bug 2058648] [NEW] package libc6 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 [modified: usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.Debian.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/README.hesiod.gz usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz

2024-03-21 Thread Brian Wilson
Public bug reported:

Doing upgrade from 22.04 -> 24.04 beta.

Upgrading
Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
   Upgrading: libnih1:amd64 < 1.0.3-12build1 @ii mK Ib > due to libnih1:amd64 
Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (< 2.36)
   Upgrading: libc6-x32:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii ugH Ib > 
due to libc6-x32:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 
2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (= 2.35-0ubuntu3.6)
   Upgrading: libc6-i386:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii ugH Ib > 
due to libc6-i386:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 
2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (= 2.35-0ubuntu3.6)
   Upgrading: libc6-dev:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umH Ib > 
due to libc6-dev:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 
2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (= 2.35-0ubuntu3.6)
   Upgrading: libc6-dbg:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umH Ib > 
due to libc6-dbg:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 
2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (= 2.35-0ubuntu3.6)
   Upgrading: libc-dev-bin:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umH NPb 
Ib > due to libc-dev-bin:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 
2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > (< 2.36)
   Upgrading: libc-bin:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umH Ib > due 
to libc-bin:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii 
umU Ib > (< 2.36)
  MarkInstall libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > FU=1
MarkInstall locales:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU Ib > 
FU=0
Installing libc-bin:amd64 as Depends of locales:amd64
  MarkInstall libc-bin:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU > 
FU=0
MarkInstall libc6:i386 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU > FU=0
MarkInstall libnih1:amd64 < 1.0.3-12build1 @ii mK Ib > FU=0
  libnih1:amd64 Depends on libc6:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 
@ii pumU > (< 2.36) can't be satisfied! (dep)
   Removing: libnih1:amd64 as upgrade is not possible
MarkDelete libnih1:amd64 < 1.0.3-12build1 @ii mK Ib > FU=0
 Upgrading: libc6-dev-x32:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii ugH 
NPb IPb > due to libc6-dev-x32:amd64 Depends on libc6-x32:amd64 < 
2.35-0ubuntu3.6 | 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii ugH Ib > (= 2.35-0ubuntu3.6)
MarkInstall libc6-x32:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii ugU > 
FU=0
  MarkInstall libc6-dev-x32:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii 
ugU NPb Ib > FU=0
  Installing libc6-dev-i386:amd64 as Depends of libc6-dev-x32:amd64
MarkInstall libc6-dev-i386:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii 
ugU NPb Ib > FU=0
  MarkInstall libc6-dev:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii 
umU Ib > FU=0
  Installing libc-dev-bin:amd64 as Depends of libc6-dev:amd64
MarkInstall libc-dev-bin:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 
@ii umU NPb IPb > FU=0
ignore old unsatisfied important dependency on libc-devtools:amd64
Installing libc6-i386:amd64 as Depends of libc6-dev-i386:amd64
  MarkInstall libc6-i386:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii 
ugU > FU=0
ignore old unsatisfied important dependency on gcc-multilib:amd64
  ignore old unsatisfied important dependency on gcc-multilib:amd64
MarkInstall libc6-dbg:amd64 < 2.35-0ubuntu3.6 -> 2.39-0ubuntu2 @ii umU > 
FU=0
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 1
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 1
Investigating (0) ureadahead:amd64 < 0.100.0-21 @ii mK Ib >
Broken ureadahead:amd64 Depends on libnih1:amd64 < 1.0.3-12build1 @ii mR > (>= 
1.0.0)
  Considering libnih1:amd64 0 as a solution to ureadahead:amd64 -2
  Removing ureadahead:amd64 rather than change libnih1:amd64
  MarkDelete ureadahead:amd64 < 0.100.0-21 @ii mK Ib > FU=0
Done

Upgrading
Fetched 0 B in 0s (0 B/s)
Preconfiguring packages ...
Preconfiguring packages ...
Preconfiguring packages ...
(Reading database ... 361984 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing ureadahead (0.100.0-21) ...
Removing libnih1 (1.0.3-12build1) ...

Progress: [  6%]
(Reading database ... 361965 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../00-libc6-i386_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libc6-i386 (2.39-0ubuntu2) over (2.35-0ubuntu3.6) ...

Progress: [ 12%]
Preparing to unpack .../01-libc-dev-bin_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
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Progress: [ 18%]
Unpacking libc6-dev:amd64 (2.39-0ubuntu2) over (2.35-0ubuntu3.6) ...
Replacing files in old package libc6:amd64 (2.35-0ubuntu3.6) ...
Preparing to unpack .../03-libc6-dev-i386_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
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Progress: [ 24%]
Preparing to unpack .../04-libc6-dev-x32_2.39-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...
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Preparing to unpack 

Re: [Frameworks] Peter Herwitz Contact Information

2023-12-27 Thread Brian Wilson
I’m sorry to hear of Peter’s passing as well. I never had the chance to meet him, but saw his films twenty years ago as a student. They were poetic and lovely and have stayed in my memory all these years since. Best,Brian WilsonSent from my iPhoneOn Dec 26, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Stephen Anker  wrote:Hi Paul,I'm sorry to say that Peter passed away last September after a protracted illness.To the best of my knowledge, his films aren't available at this time, although someone else on Frameworks might know otherwise.Peter was a profoundly gifted artist and human being, and his absence is being felt by all of us who knew him.I hope that his remarkable, uniquely textured poetical films will resurface soon for all of us to enjoy.My best, Steve AnkerOn Tue, Dec 26, 2023 at 11:30 AM Paul Attard  wrote:Hey hey Frameworks,Hope you're all doing well today! And I hope this message finds you all in good spirits. I'm reaching out today in the hopes that some of you may have information or leads regarding the contact details of experimental filmmaker Peter Herwitz. I've been unable to find contact information for him and have wanted to reach out for some time now regarding his 8mm films. If any members of this forum have insights into how I might be able to reach out to Mr. Herwitz, or if you have any suggestions on where I could find such information, I would be immensely grateful for your assistance. I understand the importance of privacy, so please feel free to share any information privately if that is more comfortable for you. Thank you all for your time and consideration. I look forward to any guidance or assistance you can provide.Best regards,Paul
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Re: [Frameworks] Jane

2023-12-12 Thread Brian Wilson
 I got to meet Jane in 2019 when I was in Denver showing some of my 16mm work. 
We remained pen pals over the few years since. 
For the 20 years prior to my meeting her, my concept of her had been forged by 
her appearances in the films. She was more myth than reality. But getting to 
know her opened my eyes to just how complex and funny and deeply creative she 
really was. 
I was glad to call her a friend for at least that short period of time. 


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On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 02:39:20 PM CST, Adam Hyman 
 wrote:  
 
 
She was a delightful human being.

  

Here’s a NY Times obit.

 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/07/books/jane-wodening-dead.html

We hosted her in March 2020.

Here is the video from the event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P844IAg8rUM=27s

  

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On 12/10/23, 6:36 AM, "Frameworks on behalf of Dominic Angerame" 
 
wrote:

  

Marilyn Brakhage had told me this last week, but I was remiss in reporting it 
here. Thought it was already posted and I had missed it. I had the pleasure of 
meeting her a few times…..

  

D






On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 PM, Pip Chodorov  wrote:

  

I’m sad to read that Jane Wodening has died.

  

  

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[Geoserver-users] geowebcache.xml

2022-10-17 Thread Brian Wilson
Does anyone have a geowebcache.xml file that works? I am trying to cache
outside services.

The sample file just has broken references to boundlessgeo.com

I'd be happy to update the file with functioning services but first I have
to learn how!

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Re: Installation on Linux with Docker

2022-06-23 Thread Brian Wilson
All I can think of is your browser is trying https instead of http? They do
that a lot these days. It should not be any permission issue.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022, 5:05 AM Qua qua  wrote:

> Dear developers,
>
> I'm struggling to install and configure the application on docker, where
> I'm also moving my first steps.
>
> The container was started with: docker run -p 7990:80 -e
> 'PGADMIN_DEFAULT_EMAIL=t...@test.com' -e 'PGADMIN_DEFAULT_PASSWORD=test'
> -d dpage/pgadmin4. I'd expect then I'll be able to connect to
> localhost:7990, but when trying to open this address, the browser hangs
> indefinitely.
>
> I do not spots any hints in the log:
>
> #] docker logs pgadmin4
> NOTE: Configuring authentication for SERVER mode.
>
> [2022-06-23 10:33:39 +] [1] [INFO] Starting gunicorn 20.1.0
> [2022-06-23 10:33:39 +] [1] [INFO] Listening at: http://[::]:80 (1)
> [2022-06-23 10:33:39 +] [1] [INFO] Using worker: gthread
> [2022-06-23 10:33:39 +] [89] [INFO] Booting worker with pid: 89
> [2022-06-23 10:54:23 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
> [2022-06-23 11:00:09 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
> [2022-06-23 11:12:09 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
> [2022-06-23 11:18:13 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
> [2022-06-23 11:39:08 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
> [2022-06-23 11:57:50 +] [1] [INFO] Handling signal: winch
>
> Is this a problem of permissions? The documentation mentions that should
> be set for the pgadmin user/group, but I don't know how to do it on Docker.
>
>
> Linux 5.18.5-arch1-1, Docker v20.10.17, image dpage/pgadmin4:latest
> 2d7539c5a1338b9b063c60aa25e2f8ae948ba717c0c0c7ca91fbea7e9733d434
>
>
> Yours,
>
> Quack
>
>
>
>


Re: [postgis-users] Does ArcGIS 2.7 Pro work with PostgreSQL 13 / PostGIS 3.1

2021-05-24 Thread Brian Wilson
When I've asked in the past, Esri people told me that PostGIS editing will
not work. I always try things myself, regardless of what Esri people say.
My answer is still NO, you cannot edit. I think the chances of them
enabling editing are pretty much non-existent. They want everyone to
subscribe to an annual license for ArcGIS Enterprise and supporting PostGIS
would dilute that effort so this is no surprise to me.

I just installed ArcGIS Pro 2.8 this afternoon and tested it with a fresh
install of PostGIS 3 / Postgresql 12 (running on Ubuntu Server installed
from UbuntuGIS).

I am using a "personal" license so it's the "Advanced" version of Pro and I
have the interop extension too.

To get some data into PostGIS I loaded a polygon shapefile into QGIS and
then used drag and dropto copy it into PostGIS, AMAZING and stunning to me
how easy that was. Then I closed it and I started Pro 2.8, and I was able
to connect to the database and load in the PostGIS table as a feature
class. It worked just fine. Then I tried to edit it and it said "This
layer's workspace is readonly." I searched the properties for the layer and
I searched Esri online help for that string and found nothing. I am
connected with the same credentials in both QGIS and Pro so the problem is
in Pro.

Then I launched QGIS and edited a polygon there. I stumbled because I have
not used it for editing but I managed to move a vertex. Then I refreshed
the layer in Pro and the change immediately appeared.

I don't have any way to test the Basic license of Pro. I disabled Interop
to make sure it was not doing something behind the scenes to allow me to
view PostGIS data, and that had no effect. With it turned off I restarted
Pro and the PostGIS layer loaded. AFAIK interop is just a very complicated
ETL filter tool and does not do anything directly in the Pro GUI.

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Re: [postgis-users] Postgis and ArcGIS Data Store

2020-11-05 Thread Brian Wilson
The ESRI datastore runs on nonstandard ports, so there is no conflict
running a standard copy of Postgresql on the same machine.
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[weewx-user] Rainfall inaccuracies (using weewx-sdr)

2020-07-29 Thread Brian Wilson
Weewx 4.1.1, Python 3, using weewx-sdr on Raspberry PI 3 w/ sqlite 
database, 1min archive times, outdoor thermometer is an Acurite 5n1. 

We've had quite a bit of rain recently, so it's given me several 
opportunities to notice that the Acurite app rainfall numbers vary greatly 
with Weewx. Given that they are using the same data gathered over the air, 
I tried to dig into what might be causing it.

I too today's rainfall and gathered info out of the weewx logs to determine 
how much rain we got - that jives with what is in the Acurite App.  Here is 
the first and last (stopped measuring at 5:47) entries. My math tells me we 
have had .66 in between midnight and 5:47.

Jul 29 00:00:34 localhost weewxd: sdr: MainThread: packet={u'windDir': 22.5, 
u'windSpeed': 0.0, u'rain_total': 13.8, 'usUnits': 1, 'dateTime': 1595995230
}
...
Jul 29 17:47:06 localhost weewx[8995] DEBUG user.sdr: packet={'windDir': 
247.5, 'windSpeed': 5.139, 'rain_total': 14.46, 'dateTime': 1596059222, 
'usUnits': 1}


I dumped the rainfall records out of the sqlite db to see what it gathered. 
Out of 890 rows for this time period, 49 of them are empty (for instance, 
the record at 5:38).  So I add up all the non-empty numbers for the day and 
get .44 in- which matches what Weewx shows me for the day. 

2020-07-29 00:00:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:01:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:02:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:03:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:04:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:05:00|0.00979
2020-07-29 00:06:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:07:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:08:00|0.0
2020-07-29 00:09:00|0.0
...
2020-07-29 17:38:00|
2020-07-29 17:39:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:40:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:41:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:42:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:43:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:44:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:45:00|0.0116
2020-07-29 17:46:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:47:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:48:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:49:00|0.0
2020-07-29 17:50:00|0.0

# cat jul29-sqlite-rain | awk -F'|' '{print $2}' | grep 0. | paste -sd+ - | 
bc
.44951


I'm thinking the blank entries might be due to a database lock error 
(mid-day, I turned on debug logging and found the error below), but I'm 
still not seeing how 49 out of 890 empty records could skew the numbers 
this much, but I guess it could? If all the numbers in the logs add up to 
the right amount, does this mean weewx might have seen it, but didn't get 
that record written? I suppose if it was pouring (like it has been), this 
might cause some meaningful records to get lost. Any thoughts from users 
who might have seen this?  I did adjust the sqlite write timeout and it 
hasn't crapped out on me, so perhaps the next time I get rain I will know, 
but wondering if anyone else had seen this much variance between weewx and 
other apps.  Don't get me wrong - I love weewx because I own my data, but I 
need the data to be accurate, so hopefully it is the database lock issue. I 
will report back.

Jul 26 02:14:19 localhost weewxd: bmp280a: found pressure value of 
29.9625272895 mbar
Jul 26 02:14:19 localhost weewxd: PoolService: found entry Temperature -> 
extraTemp1 with value of 85.7 using offset of 0.1 to get 85.8
Jul 26 02:14:19 localhost weewx[6062] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 2020-
07-26 02:14:00 EDT (1595744040) to database 'weewx.sdb'
Jul 26 02:14:19 localhost weewx[6062] INFO weewx.manager: Added record 2020-
07-26 02:14:00 EDT (1595744040) to daily summary in 'weewx.sdb'
Jul 26 02:14:24 localhost weewx[6062] INFO weewx.engine: Main loop exiting. 
Shutting engine down.
Jul 26 02:14:24 localhost weewx[6062] INFO weewx.engine: Shutting down 
StdReport thread
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine: Caught 
unrecoverable exception in generator 
'user.belchertown.HighchartsJsonGenerator'
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 database is locked
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 Traceback (most recent call last):
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
   File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/reportengine.py", line 197, in run
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 obj.start()
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
   File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/reportengine.py", line 280, in start
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 self.run()
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
   File "/usr/share/weewx/user/belchertown.py", line 1158, in run
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 start_ts = archive.firstGoodStamp()
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
   File "/usr/share/weewx/weewx/manager.py", line 243, in firstGoodStamp
Jul 26 02:14:31 localhost weewx[6062] ERROR weewx.reportengine:  
 _row = self.getSql("SELECT MIN(dateTime) FROM %s" % self.table_name)
Jul 

Re: Starting just the pgAdmin server

2020-04-03 Thread Brian Wilson
I will try to write something up that is succinct and post a link
here, it's going to be a very long weekend, I think. I was scheduled to
present on Docker at a conference in April so I guess I can just pretend
it's still happening and prepare for it anyway.

I have found Docker so useful that I want people to know about it, I have
no connection with the project.

--Brian

On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 7:00 AM Ken Benson  wrote:

>
>
> *From:* Brian Wilson 
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:52 AM
> *To:* George Weaver 
> *Cc:* pgadmin-supp...@postgresql.org
> *Subject:* Re: Starting just the pgAdmin server
>
>
>
> My advice to anyone using pgadmin4 is to try running it in Docker.
>
> I replied privately to George with more details. I can forward all that
> here if people want.
>
> You might end up using Docker only for pgadmin4 but once you get used to
> using it I think it will be a valuable tool for you. The longer I use it
> the more places it fits in.
>
>
>
> *[Ken Benson] *
>
> *I’m curious – what is Docker and where can I find some information on
> running PgAdmin 4 in Docker?*
>
>
>
> Ken Benson | ken @ infowerks-dot-com
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Starting just the pgAdmin server

2020-04-02 Thread Brian Wilson
My advice to anyone using pgadmin4 is to try running it in Docker.
I replied privately to George with more details. I can forward all that
here if people want.
You might end up using Docker only for pgadmin4 but once you get used to
using it I think it will be a valuable tool for you. The longer I use it
the more places it fits in.

Brian


update to 4.7 via docker

2019-05-30 Thread Brian Wilson
I read messages sometimes from people having problems installing pgadmin, I
use the Docker version and I want to encourage people to try Docker instead
because it's made managing services like pgadmin so easy for me. So for
example, here are the steps I took this morning to upgrade from 4.6 to 4.7

1. docker-compose down
2. edit file docker-compose.yml to change '4.6' to '4.7'
3. docker-compose up

That's it. Many thanks to dpage for maintaining the Docker image that I use.
See https://hub.docker.com/r/dpage/pgadmin4

I use Docker Compose for this project because I have pgadmin bundled in
with postgres/postgis and geoserver. I also use a separate Compose setup to
provide a reverse proxy and Let's Encrypt in front of pgadmin and
geoserver. If you are getting started with Docker and only need pgadmin you
can run that service standalone following the instructions in the docker.com
link above.

Singing the praises of Docker is outside the immediate purview of this list
so please feel free to write to me directly if you want more information or
help with it.

BTW I love the work you all have done with making pgadmin cloud-based, it's
a great fit for my own workflow where I can't install an app like pgadmin3
on every computer I touch.

Brian


Re: [Geoserver-users] What´s Hardware Specification for GEOSERVER 2.13.2

2019-05-09 Thread Brian Wilson
I run on Debian on a small Atom server. Postgis and geoserver run fine on
an 8gb vm. Invest in a fast SSD.

A long time ago I found that Geoserver+Tomcat would crash if it did not
have enough of RAM. When I provision it with 768M it is stable.
I think default is 256M?

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agustinfranco...@decea.gov.br> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
> What´s Hardware Specification for GEOSERVER 2.13.2? in production?
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Kodachrome

2019-04-30 Thread Brian Wilson
As others have stated, Kodachrome may not be the best option, but the new 
Ektachrome would certainly be viable and give you something in the realm of 
what you’re looking for. 

Brian Wilson 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 30, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Jon Behrens  wrote:
> 
> I would alike to help, but I think finding Kodachrome might be a stretch, but 
> not impossible , does it have to be Kodachrome?
> 
> Jon
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 30, 2019, at 2:45 PM, Ed Inman  wrote:
> 
>> Kodachrome has some silver content so it can be processed as black & white. 
>> I used to do this to Super 8 Kodachrome films in the 70s using a standard 
>> b/w reversal formula. 
>> The only person I'm aware of who claims to be able to process it in color is 
>> Kelly-Shane Fuller of Piratelogy Studios but only in still camera lengths. 
>> https://shootfilmco.com/blogs/shoot-film-co/kodachrome-processed-in-color-seriously
>> 
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Mark Street 
>> Sent: Apr 30, 2019 4:30 PM 
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Kodachrome 
>> 
>> Dear All,
>> My former teacher and friend Barbara Hammer asked me to finish a film for 
>> her; she gave me the material before she died.  She asked 4 of us to do so; 
>> I'm turning my attention to the project now.
>> 
>> I had a crazy idea of shooting some Kodachrome.  Any way to purchase this 
>> outdated stock?  Any way of processing it assuming I can find a roll or two?
>> 
>> all the best,
>> Mark Street
>> www.markstreetfilms.com
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Re: [Frameworks] Bell & Howell Film 70 series

2019-02-18 Thread Brian Wilson
 Hi Nicole, 
I have a B 70 that I've used to shoot several films over the years.  It's a 
very durable camera, but very basic in its functions.  No single frame, etc.
I think you may really enjoy it for shooting, but it probably won't meet your 
needs here.
Best,Brian
On Monday, February 18, 2019, 6:04:39 PM CST, Dominic Angerame 
 wrote:  
 
 That was my first 16mm camera. It is a work horse, however I do not believe 
you can do a single Frame. I had a film 70da. It most likely is not good for 
animation, it has a slow speed but not a single frame to my knowledge.

Dominic

> On Feb 18, 2019, at 3:16 PM, Nicole Baker  wrote:
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> Hey frameworkers,
> I'm looking to upgrade from my Revere 15mm camera. The filmo 70d* has caught 
> my eye... is anyone familiar? I'm especially interested if it has single 
> frame capability so I can use it for animation. 
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[ovirt-users] Re: Suggestions on adding 1000 or more networks to an engine/hosts

2019-02-18 Thread Brian Wilson
It looked to continue to add them if looking at something like output from "ip 
link".

I was not however able to save the networks so the host always had "Unsaved 
Network Changes".

I eventually needed to use the host and rebooted it and since they weren't 
saved they were all gone on reboot.



So the takeaway i see here is that with Bridged Networks there is a softlimit 
of ~350 in a Datacenter/Cluster due to the timeout of the VDSM.  "vdsTimeout" 

Is this something we could tune if we wanted have more than 350?  

Im trying to think of what would happen if we increased that to anything else 
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Re: [Frameworks] 16mm black film for scratching

2019-02-15 Thread Brian Wilson
You can buy black leader from Urbanski Film for a decent price:

http://urbanskifilm.com/supplies.html

Brian Wilson 

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> On Feb 15, 2019, at 9:05 AM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
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> If you want some fogged film, I have some you're welcome to... but you should
> know that you will get a different look on scratches with film as with black
> leader... and the black on the black leader is blacker than most film.
> 
> Magfilm is usually long-pitch and polyester based, just like print stock.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Suggestions on adding 1000 or more networks to an engine/hosts

2019-02-06 Thread Brian Wilson
Another thing i was looking at now was trying to add the networks to a label 
thats not on a NIC and then add the label. 


Adding the Networks works well in-fact i added 1500 of them with no issue.

Then I moved the new label to the nic and watched as it begin to add the 
interfaces, i watched it and saw that it got to about 300 Interfaces before the 
UI Timed out with the error:

Operation Cancelled
Error while executing action HostSetupNetworks: Network error during 
communication with the Host.


In the Engine The Log looks like this - since there were so many networks in 
the message to add them i truncated that section - they are all the same 
settings on each network



2019-02-06 21:34:43,932+01 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.dal.dbbroker.auditloghandling.AuditLogDirector] (default 
task-25) [c12f3f58-ef87-4a82-9248-e79d4c625edc] EVENT_ID: 
VDS_BROKER_COMMAND_FAILURE(10,802), VDSM u90c10aio01.cisco.com command 
HostSetupNetworksVDS failed: Message timeout which can be caused by 
communication issues
2019-02-06 21:34:43,939+01 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HostSetupNetworksVDSCommand] 
(default task-25) [c12f3f58-ef87-4a82-9248-e79d4c625edc] Command 
'HostSetupNetworksVDSCommand(HostName = u90c10aio01.cisco.com, 
HostSetupNetworksVdsCommandParameters:{hostId='509f5298-00df-4f74-9a2b-c95836442e60',
 vds='Host[u90c10aio01.cisco.com,509f5298-00df-4f74-9a2b-c95836442e60]', 
rollbackOnFailure='true', connectivityTimeout='120', 
networks='[HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-1502', vdsmName='u90aio001-1502', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='1502', vmNetwork='true', stp='false', properties='null', 
ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', ipv4Netmask='null', 
ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', ipv6Address='null', 
ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}, 
HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-1503', vdsmName='u90aio001-1503', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='1503', vmNetwork='true', stp='fals
 e', properties='null', ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', 
ipv4Netmask='null', ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', 
ipv6Address='null', ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}, 
HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-1504', vdsmName='u90aio001-1504', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='1504', vmNetwork='true', stp='false', properties='null', 
ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', ipv4Netmask='null', 
ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', 

..truncated...

ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}, 
HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-2998', vdsmName='u90aio001-2998', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='2998', vmNetwork='true', stp='false', properties='null', 
ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', ipv4Netmask='null', 
ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', ipv6Address='null', 
ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}, 
HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-2999', vdsmName='u90aio001-2999', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='2999', vmNetwork='true', stp='false', properties='null', 
ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', ipv4Netmask='null', 
ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', ipv6Address='null', 
ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}, 
HostNetwork:{defaultRoute='false', bonding='false', 
networkName='u90aio001-3000', vdsmName='u90aio001-3000', nicName='eno1', 
vlan='3000', vmNetwork='true', stp='false', properties='n
 ull', ipv4BootProtocol='NONE', ipv4Address='null', ipv4Netmask='null', 
ipv4Gateway='null', ipv6BootProtocol='NONE', ipv6Address='null', 
ipv6Prefix='null', ipv6Gateway='null', nameServers='null'}]', 
removedNetworks='[]', bonds='[]', removedBonds='[]', 
clusterSwitchType='LEGACY'})' execution failed: VDSGenericException: 
VDSNetworkException: Message timeout which can be caused by communication issues
2019-02-06 21:34:43,942+01 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.HostSetupNetworksVDSCommand] 
(default task-25) [c12f3f58-ef87-4a82-9248-e79d4c625edc] Error: 
VDSGenericException: VDSNetworkException: Message timeout which can be caused 
by communication issues
2019-02-06 21:34:43,942+01 ERROR 
[org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.network.host.HostSetupNetworksCommand] (default 
task-25) [c12f3f58-ef87-4a82-9248-e79d4c625edc] Command 
'org.ovirt.engine.core.bll.network.host.HostSetupNetworksCommand' failed: 
EngineException: org.ovirt.engine.core.vdsbroker.vdsbroker.VDSNetworkException: 
VDSGenericException: VDSNetworkException: Message timeout which can be caused 
by communication issues (Failed with error VDS_NETWORK_ERROR and code 5022)
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[ovirt-users] Re: Suggestions on adding 1000 or more networks to an engine/hosts

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson

> Would external OVN networks fit for your scenario?

We steered away from them when we couldn't figure out how to add a VLAN Id on 
them without having to turn around and attach them to an "outside network" 
anyway we would essentially end up with double the networks with them in order 
to allow VMs to interface with Physical Hardware on the Same Vlan IDs



> If possible, would you be able to share the relevant part of engine.log? 
I can try to kick off the playbook again and gather the logs


> From my point of view, it is a good idea to label the host interface
> after creating the networks, if many networks are created rapidly.

That could be a workable solution to an extent if we were to propop them and 
then do the label assignment at the end, this specific use case was adding to 
an existing label where there may be VMs using networks on the label already


> Is this cluster of switchtype OVS or linux bridge?
Linux Bridge


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[ovirt-users] Re: Host Only Network

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson
Dan is correct and i have actully tested out both of these suggestions and the 
notes i have from them are:

OVN Networks -
 These work well but seem to be limited in that they do not allow a VLAN ID to 
be tagged to them, seems the solution to that is to connect them to an external 
network which leads back to the same question of having to have that network be 
assigned to a nic.

Attaching to a NIC thats down -
 This works but wont be a solution in a machine that may not have an extra nic, 
and was looking for something more portable, also seems that it stays down due 
to no carrier (makes sense), while the dummy interface will show itself as up.

Dummy Network -
  This works and will be the way we implement it until we find a reason not to. 
 This will allow us to use Bridge Networks still which will mimic setups we 
have that are actually connected to physical networks, as well VLAN IDs on them.
   Side note on this i actually had to use dummy_0 as the name and then restart 
the engine before it would show up in the Network Assignment Window for the 
hosts under "Setup Host Networks"


Big thanks to you all on helping with this
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[ovirt-users] Host Only Network

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson
What is the proper way to provide networks without an egress of the host?In 
VMware i would take a portgroup and just not associate it with a vnic.   In 
ovirt that doesnt seem possible as the network doesnt seem to function unless i 
move to a physical nic under the "Setup Host Networks" options.

The Goal here is to provide a network for VMs to use on the single host only no 
traffic would need to leave the host but would need to have VLan IDs and 
segmentation through them on the host
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[ovirt-users] Suggestions on adding 1000 or more networks to an engine/hosts

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson
So we have a use case where our engines will will be hosting development 
sandbox clusters.   We need to have upwards of 1000 networks on some of these.

I understand there is no theoretical limit to the number of networks does any 
body have a good reliable way of instantiating all of these networks.

We have been using ansible for POCs and doing 100 Networks have not had a 
problem getting them on there however when upping the number to many more it 
begins to take longer and longer between each one and eventually timed iout and 
only got to 1567

Example Task we are using for this:
  tasks:

- name: Add More Networks
  ovirt_network:
auth: "{{ ovirt_auth }}"
data_center: "{{ pcloud_name }}"
name: "{{ pcloud_name }}-{{ item }}"
state: present
label: uplink
vlan_tag: "{{ item }}"
clusters:
  - name: "{{ ovirt_cluster }}"
assigned: yes
required: no
display: no
migration: no
gluster: no
  with_sequence: start=1551 end=2500




What are some better ways of bulk additions of networks?   Would the API 
provide a better solution so as to sorta bulk cache them then initiate the save?
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[ovirt-users] Re: Roles and Permissions and Inheritance

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson
This seems to work however still trying to solve the issue of if we dont give 
access to networks at a higher level (Cluster or DC) then it must be given at 
the Network level for every network that we would like them to have access to.  
 Since we are using an AD group to assign access to the networks this would 
work for initially created network by we as admins but brings up an issue for 
networks they create themselves.

We Also would like them to create networks and let that group have access to it 
but is seems we would have to allow them to assign permissions in the system to 
do that, which then opens up a whole other host of problems we wouldn't want 
like the ability to mitigate and access control we implement.

Am I understanding how these permissions work and finding we cannot do the 
below or missing something that would allow the follow use case:


Users of Platform are restricted from adding VMs to a few select networks
Users of Platform are able to create, and share with other team members 
associated with an AD Group, new networks
   -- Strech here if it could be restricted to only certain labels to prevent 
them from using physical nics we haven't already assigned labels to as admins
Users of Platform are not able to modify permissions on objects in inventory
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[ovirt-users] Re: Single Node Deployment - Self-Hosted-Engine

2019-01-29 Thread Brian Wilson
Wanted to just close out this Thread and mention that using a self created 
gluster volume on the host itself was pretty easy and worked out well.
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[ovirt-users] Re: Single Node Deployment - Self-Hosted-Engine

2019-01-18 Thread Brian Wilson (briwils2)
Thanks Simone,

I am currently trying to go through that as I found a wiki page that talked 
about single node HCI,

Is there anyway to leave Gluster off the table and just use a local on host 
Storage Domain for simplicity?


Thanks
Brian


From: Simone Tiraboschi 
Date: Friday, January 18, 2019 at 11:42 AM
To: "Brian Wilson (briwils2)" 
Cc: users 
Subject: Re: [ovirt-users] Single Node Deployment - Self-Hosted-Engine



On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:18 PM Brian Wilson 
mailto:briwi...@cisco.com>> wrote:
I have a question regarding installing a single node and then running the 
self-hosted engine on it.

I would like to keep this as simple as possible and am running into an issue 
with where to tell the installer to place the engine.  It asks me to choose a 
shared storage technology(gfs,nfs, iscsi) and i dont want to rely on anything 
outside of this single box to provide storage.  I would like to add another 
volume (LVM) as a local storage domain to be used for this as well as all other 
VMs to be run on this all in one box.

Is there some secret sauce to getting this installer to choose a local location 
rather than a shared one?

Yes, a replica 1 hyper-converged gluster volume.

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[ovirt-users] Single Node Deployment - Self-Hosted-Engine

2019-01-18 Thread Brian Wilson
I have a question regarding installing a single node and then running the 
self-hosted engine on it.

I would like to keep this as simple as possible and am running into an issue 
with where to tell the installer to place the engine.  It asks me to choose a 
shared storage technology(gfs,nfs, iscsi) and i dont want to rely on anything 
outside of this single box to provide storage.  I would like to add another 
volume (LVM) as a local storage domain to be used for this as well as all other 
VMs to be run on this all in one box.   

Is there some secret sauce to getting this installer to choose a local location 
rather than a shared one?
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Re: [Frameworks] Western Cine guide to editing 16mm film?

2018-12-14 Thread Brian Wilson
Try contacting Robert David, who ran Cinema Lab. I’m not sure if the old phone 
number still works or not, but I can try to find his email address if you don’t 
have it. 

Brian Wilson

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> On Dec 14, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Jason Halprin  wrote:
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> Hi All,
> 
> In one of my computer updates, I seem to no longer have a pdf of a guide to 
> 16/35mm film editing that was originally put together by Western Cine. As I 
> recall, this included guidelines for marking your workprint, preparing 
> negatives for A/B rolling, and essentially the whole process that someone 
> working with a negative cutter (or a negative cutter themselves) would want 
> to follow.
> 
> Does anyone know what I'm referring to? Or, where I might find it? If I 
> recall, I downloaded it from the Cinema Lab (successor to Western Cine) 
> website back in the early 2000s.
> 
> Thanks in Advance!
> 
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[ovirt-users] Roles and Permissions and Inheritance

2018-12-12 Thread Brian Wilson
Is there a way to prevent Roles Assigned to Groups on Objects to only apply to 
where it is set?


Basically looking for a way to do what we had done in VMWare which involved 
using the do not propagate permission setting.


be able 
Seems to me that right now there is no way to set this so if i give access to 
something at the top level of a DC those accesses wlll overide if i then 
explcitly set another role and permission on an object underneath


Lets take as a concrete example the ovirtmgmt network.   I do not want users in 
the engine to be able to place VMs on this (but i want the Superusers to be 
able to still) How can i accomplish this with the way roles and permissions 
work with Ovirt?


thanks!
Brian
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[ovirt-users] Re: Ovirt Maximums

2018-12-12 Thread Brian Wilson
Great thanks for this information, and total bonus about the VDS Timeout info 
as i was seeing that and hadn't started to dig into it good to know that as 
well.


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[ovirt-users] Ovirt Maximums

2018-11-30 Thread Brian Wilson
Is there a resource available that would describe the configurable  maximums 
for the Ovirt Engine and Ovirt Nodes.

Things like:
How many Logical Networks per host?  


If one does not exist does anyone have any experiences with reaching limits 
that caused issues specifically with regards to the number of networks on hosts.

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[ovirt-users] Increasing an Existing iSCSI Storage Domain

2018-11-16 Thread Brian Wilson
My Question is not so much in how to do this as i have been able to take an 
existing Storage domain and increase its size with adding another LUN.   My 
Question is how will a failure of one of the LUNs be handled by the engine and 
how will it effect the VMs running on it.   

Let me setup an example to better illustrate.

Ovirt Node has ISCSI storage domain comprised of 1 Lun from 1 ISCSI based SAN 
and 2 LUNs from another.  So a total of 3 Luns making up the one storage domain.

Now there is an issue with the Storage array providing the single lun.   What 
happens?   How do you know what VMs are running on each extent?


TIA 
Brian
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Re: [postgis-users] Hi hi hello - Postgis & postgres binary

2018-11-14 Thread Brian Wilson
Are you confusing PostGIS with SpatiaLite?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpatiaLite

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 4:24 AM Michał Garnysz 
wrote:

> I'm struggling to create working instance of postgres with postgis enabled
> database
> i need to have one binary file i will use as emmbedded database where i
> need call
> CREATE EXTENSION postgis;
>
> I tried many approaches and usually im ending up with dependency to
> container where i installed postgis or issue with unable to locate
> $libdir:postis2.5
> (other are openssl v.1.1.0 on centos/redhat)
>
> Is there any place i can get DB instance with already copiled binaries vs
> 1 or 2 version?
>
> Hope someone have any advice/ hint im stuck on this for to long.
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[ovirt-users] Re: VM Portal noVNC Console invocation

2018-10-08 Thread Brian Wilson
Maybe a more concise question.

Can i change the console invocation method on the VM portal like I can on the 
Admin Portal?

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Re: [nfc-l] noise with OB21c microphone + solid state recording using AC power

2018-09-19 Thread Brian Wilson
I am guessing you are using a power supply from your junk box, not one that
came with the recorder, and that is a switcher (most of them are now) and
it's a cheap (noisy) one. Ham radio people address by either finding a
better switcher or by using a linear supply.

Batteries don't care about harmonics so if your power supply came with a
battery charger that might be the reason it's so noisy.

In your shoes, I would see if the power supply you have says Marantz on it.
If not I would call customer service and find out if they have a reasonable
cost replacement. While on the phone I'd ask what the recorder wants to see
(voltage and if it's regulated) Then if they want too much $ I would try
about a dozen other adapters looking for one with a brand name I recognize
and the voltage and current numbers I expect.

If the support person says unregulated is fine, and gives a range for input
instead of a single value (like 11.6 - 14.4 VDC for example) I'd try a
linear supply, I always have one on my bench. Sometimes linear supplies are
regulated somtimes not, you really can't tell without scoping the output.
It used to be the answer was to find a good cheap regulated linear power
supply but those are very rare now.

All this works for me because I've known the problem exists and have
squirreled away good power supplies for when it crops up.

BTW I know almost nothing about migratory birds. :-) But I love monitoring
the list.

Good luck, Brian

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Re: [nfc-l] noise with OB21c microphone + solid state recording using AC power

2018-09-19 Thread Brian Wilson
I am guessing you are using a power supply from your junk box, not one that
came with the recorder, and that is a switcher (most of them are now) and
it's a cheap (noisy) one. Ham radio people address by either finding a
better switcher or by using a linear supply.

Batteries don't care about harmonics so if your power supply came with a
battery charger that might be the reason it's so noisy.

In your shoes, I would see if the power supply you have says Marantz on it.
If not I would call customer service and find out if they have a reasonable
cost replacement. While on the phone I'd ask what the recorder wants to see
(voltage and if it's regulated) Then if they want too much $ I would try
about a dozen other adapters looking for one with a brand name I recognize
and the voltage and current numbers I expect.

If the support person says unregulated is fine, and gives a range for input
instead of a single value (like 11.6 - 14.4 VDC for example) I'd try a
linear supply, I always have one on my bench. Sometimes linear supplies are
regulated somtimes not, you really can't tell without scoping the output.
It used to be the answer was to find a good cheap regulated linear power
supply but those are very rare now.

All this works for me because I've known the problem exists and have
squirreled away good power supplies for when it crops up.

BTW I know almost nothing about migratory birds. :-) But I love monitoring
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Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NTP not starting in Zones

2018-09-17 Thread Brian Wilson
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 1:08 PM Jonathan Adams 
wrote:

> strange, I prefer to run all my daemons in a zone as it keeps them separate
> from the core operating system, and reduces the access to resources.
>
> it's easy for a global zone to access the resources of the child, it's hard
> for the child to access the global zone.
>
>
Unless you give the child zone the privileges it needs to do so - like
sys_time.  Though I don't know that that one's a big deal.
I would take the opposite approach - lock down logins to the global zone
and run privileged 'global' services like NTP, monitoring, backups and/or
NFS there, and then keep the child/local zones as thin as possible so that
the processes running in the zone that faced the Internet were minimal.


> On Thu, 13 Sep 2018 at 18:22, Bob Friesenhahn <
> bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us>
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 13 Sep 2018, Alexander Pyhalov via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> >
> > > Hello.
> > > What is a point of running ntp in zone?
> > > NTP running in GZ will care about system time.
> >
> > The main reason is usually security.  Running network daemons inside
> > of zones helps avoid problems if there is a security issue with the
> > daemon.
> >
> > I run named and ntp in the global zone since I worry that the host
> > could have some dependencies on these protocols which impacts clean
> > booting.
> >
> > Bob
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Re: [Frameworks] silent work

2018-05-02 Thread Brian Wilson
Hi Andy, 
I also work in silent video.  Here are a few recent examples:
Ancient Air:
Ancient Air


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Ancient Hours:
Ancient Hours


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Ancient Hours

digital video, 2015
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White Temple:
White Temple


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Best,Brian Wilson
   On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, 10:42:47 AM CDT, Evan Greene 
<evan.michael.gre...@gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Most of the digital things I make are silent. Here’s one that is public:
https://vimeo.com/256868147
I also have a ton more that are private and could send you the links if you’re 
interested. 

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018, Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com> wrote:


I've also made silent video, including some recent works fwiw.

On Wed, 2 May 2018, JB Mabe wrote:


Two former Chicagoans make pretty much 100% silent video:
Jake Barningham
&
Kyle Canterbury

And here's some others who have made some silent video, but silent
video isn't the bulk of their work:
Anna Kipervaser
Simon Payne
Mary Billyou
Christine Lucy Latimer

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:02 AM, Andy Ditzler <a...@andyditzler.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm putting together a monitor-based exhibition of moving image work for a
public space, with one of the requirements being that the works are shown
silent due to the nature of the space. Plenty of archival and artists' film
work fits this. But in the course of preparing this exhibition, a more
general question has arisen: Who is making silent work now? Or more to the
point, are there artists who make video pieces that are silent? I'm thinking
of videos that might draw on the legacy of silent/non-soundtrack film work
by Deren, Menken, Brakhage, Dorsky et al, but it seems difficult to find any
moving image work without sound that doesn't originate somehow on film.

I know Frameworks is devoted to work on film and not video, but perhaps some
on this list can help. Thanks for any leads.

Best,

Andy Ditzler
Founder and curator, Film Love: www.filmlove.org
Co-founder, John Q collective: www.johnq.org


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Adding a custom field type with python avro

2018-03-28 Thread Brian Wilson
Hi all,

I'm trying to consume messages from a Kafka topic which uses Avro to serialise 
the messages. One of the fields is a custom field type. How can I add this to 
my schema to allow correct deserialisation of my messages?

Brian



[Frameworks] Exp. film in Kansas City?

2018-02-02 Thread Brian Wilson
Hi all, 

I'll be in Kansas City later this year and am looking for a place to share some 
of my recent work. Does anyone know of any venues or clubs in that area 
friendly to experimental film? 

I've been in touch with one film society, but am open to any suggestion.

Thanks!

Brian Wilson 


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RE: Visit segregation and extraction [EXTERNAL]

2017-06-27 Thread Brian Wilson
Roll your own with http://hl7api.sourceforge.net ?
-B

-Original Message-
From: Hari, Sekhar [mailto:sekhar.h...@cgi.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:12 PM
To: d...@ctakes.apache.org; user@ctakes.apache.org; 
sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu
Subject: RE: Visit segregation and extraction [EXTERNAL]

Hi Sean - Many thanks. I will study that approach further.

On another note, do you know of any Open Source software or a robust method to 
convert free text clinical documents (such as progress notes, H notes etc.) 
to a structured HL7 format (CCD or QRDA XML file)?

Thanks,
Sekhar H.

From: Finan, Sean [sean.fi...@childrens.harvard.edu]
Sent: 26 June 2017 20:42
To: d...@ctakes.apache.org; user@ctakes.apache.org
Subject: RE: Visit segregation and extraction [EXTERNAL]

Hi Sekhar,

With regard to what Chris wrote ... He is correct, you should somehow get the 
patient notes into a raw text format.  ctakes does not directly handle pdf 
files, which contain metadata and instructions in addition to the raw text.  If 
your ocr tool can save directly to text, please try to use that functionality.

To address your original question, ctakes does not know what kind of note is 
fed in without some help.  If the notes have some kind of header or footer that 
distinguishes the type of note then you can write a parser to handle that text 
and somehow pass the information through to the end of your pipeline.  If you 
trust a same type of data (e.g. BP) to be in differently named sections 
depending upon the note type then you can use a sectionizer and store and use 
the section name.  There may be better techniques that others can recommend.

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Hari, Sekhar [mailto:sekhar.h...@cgi.com]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:44 AM
To: user@ctakes.apache.org; d...@ctakes.apache.org
Subject: RE: Visit segregation and extraction [EXTERNAL]

These are already readable PDFs and not images. The clinical documents came 
through to me as scanned images. We then converted those images into readable 
PDFs using OCR. cTAKES is able to read the texts. But I want to understand if 
it can distinguish BP test result performed during an outpatient visit and in a 
non-outpatient visit (such as inpatient stay, ED visit, diagnostic test, or 
surgical procedure). The texts are cluttered with different types of clinical 
documents (progress notes, radiology notes, H notes etc.).

Thanks
Sekhar Hari | Program Lead
Health Sciences Business Innovation
ASDC CGI Health Solutions
Electronic City, Bangalore
Karnataka, India 560100

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-Original Message-
From: Chris Mattmann [mailto:mattm...@apache.org]
Sent: 26 June 2017 10:03
To: d...@ctakes.apache.org; user@ctakes.apache.org
Subject: Re: Visit segregation and extraction

Maybe start out with Apache Tika for text extraction from the PDFs, then run 
Apache cTAKES on the resultant text?



On 6/25/17, 5:30 PM, "Hari, Sekhar"  wrote:

Hello there -

I have a task in hand to process 7,000,000 patient records (PDF files) 
containing different clinical documents. Each PDF has 20 pages and one PDF = 
one patient.

The information to retrieve from these documents is like this for a patient 
quality measure namely 'Controlling High Blood Pressure' -

"Extract most recently documented blood pressure occurring after the 
diagnosis of hypertension (Do not use BP readings from inpatient stay, ED 
visit, diagnostic test, or surgical procedure). Blood pressure should be 
routinely assessed as part of a physical exam at each outpatient visit."

Can cTAKES identify non-outpatient visits and outpatient visits separately? 
Are there specific pipelines that we should use to solve this problem?

Many thanks,
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Re: Issues with SSH Host Key Verification

2017-03-31 Thread Brian Wilson
I logged in to the Master server in a command line shell and sudo'd (sudo 
-su ) to the user running the Jenkins war file. I ran the ssh command 
to connect to each of the Jenkins Agent machines and had no issue 
connecting. I did this with both the machine name and the fully qualified 
domain name (e.g. machine1, and machine1.company-name.com). From what I 
could see the ssh ~/.ssh/known_hosts file contained valid information on 
the Agent machines and had correct permissions of 644.

On the Jenkins Master web page, I went to the Nodes, Agent, Configure page 
(http://:8080/computer//) and switched from the "Known hosts 
file Verification Strategy" to the "Manually trusted key Verification 
Strategy" then brought the Agents online with no issues. I then switched 
the Agent configuration back to the "Known hosts file Verification 
Strategy", took the Agents offline and brought them back online again with 
no issues.

I looked at the time stamp on the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and verified its 
contents hadn't changed. Its almost as if the known_hosts file being 
checked isn't the file for the user id executing the Jenkins war file. 
Either way, this is an issue that needs to be addressed sooner rather than 
later.

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Re: Issues with SSH Host Key Verification

2017-03-31 Thread Brian Wilson
I logged in to the Master server and sudo (sudo -su ) to the user 
running the Jenkins war file.  I ran the ssh command to connect to each of 
the Jenkins Agent machines and had no issue connecting.  I did this with 
both the machine name and the fully qualified domain name (e.g. machine1, 
and machine1.company-name.com). From what I could see the ssh 
~/.ssh/known_hosts file contained valid information on the Agent machines 
and had correct permissions of 644.

On the Jenkins Master, I went to the Nodes, Agent, Configure page and 
switched from the "Known hosts file Verification Strategy" to the "Manually 
trusted key Verification Strategy" then brought the Agents online with no 
issues.  I then switched the Agent configuration back to the "Known hosts 
file Verification Strategy", took the Agents offline and brought them back 
online again with no issues.

I looked at the time stamp on the ~/.ssh/known_hosts file and verified its 
contents hadn't changed.  Its almost as if the known_hosts file being 
checked isn't the file for the user id executing the Jenkins war file. 
 Either way, this is an issue that needs to be addressed sooner rather than 
later.

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[jira] [Commented] (CTAKES-425) Ctakes Pipeline Creator GUI

2017-03-27 Thread Brian Wilson (JIRA)

[ 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-425?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel=15943764#comment-15943764
 ] 

Brian Wilson commented on CTAKES-425:
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Sean,

You might find some utility in integrating ctakes with KNIME  
(example: 
https://tech.knime.org/forum/knime-textprocessing/installing-stanford-corenlp-in-knime)

or with pentaho (http://community.pentaho.com/) 

both provide a graphical interface for non programmers to create quite complex 
analytical or ETL based workflows/pipelines.

B

> Ctakes Pipeline Creator GUI
> ---
>
> Key: CTAKES-425
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-425
> Project: cTAKES
>  Issue Type: New Feature
>  Components: ctakes-clinical-pipeline
>Affects Versions: 4.0.0
>Reporter: Sean Finan
>Assignee: Sean Finan
> Fix For: 4.0.0
>
>
> Pipelines and their Components are a black box system to most ctakes users.  
> Without delving into code users don't know what pipe bits are available, 
> where to find them, or how to add them to a pipeline.  A GUI that helps a 
> user view existing pipelines and/or build a custom pipelines would be a boon 
> to the application.



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Re: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError - GraphX

2016-10-25 Thread Brian Wilson
I have discovered that this dijkstra's function was written for scala 1.6. The 
remainder of my code is 2.11.

I have checked the functions within the dijkstra function and can’t see any 
that are illegal. For example `mapVertices`, `aggregateMessages` and 
`outerJoinVertices` are all being used correctly.

What else could this be?

Thanks

Brian

> On 25 Oct 2016, at 08:47, Brian Wilson <brian.wilson@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you Michael! This looks perfect but I have a `NoSuchMethodError` that I 
> cannot understand. 
> 
> I am trying to implement a weighted shortest path algorithm from your `Spark 
> GraphX in Action` book. The part in question is Listing 6.4 "Executing the 
> shortest path algorithm that uses breadcrumbs"  from Chapter 6 [here][1].
> 
> I have my own graph that I create from two RDDs. There are `344436` vertices 
> and `772983` edges. I can perform an unweighted shortest path computation 
> using the native GraphX library and I'm confident in the graph construction. 
> 
> In this case I use their Dijkstra's implementation as follows:
> 
> val my_graph: Graph[(Long),Double] = Graph.apply(verticesRDD, 
> edgesRDD).cache()
>   
>   def dijkstra[VD](g:Graph[VD,Double], origin:VertexId) = {
>   var g2 = g.mapVertices(
>   (vid,vd) => (false, if (vid == origin) 0 else 
> Double.MaxValue,
>   
> List[VertexId]()))
> 
>   for (i <- 1L to g.vertices.count-1) {
>   val currentVertexId =
>   g2.vertices.filter(!_._2._1)
>   
> .fold((0L,(false,Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId](((a,b) =>
>   if (a._2._2 < b._2._2) 
> a else b)
>   ._1
> 
>   val newDistances = 
> g2.aggregateMessages[(Double,List[VertexId])](
>   ctx => if (ctx.srcId == 
> currentVertexId)
>
> ctx.sendToDst((ctx.srcAttr._2 + ctx.attr,
>   
> ctx.srcAttr._3 :+ ctx.srcId)),
>   (a,b) => if (a._1 < b._1) a 
> else b)
> 
>   g2 = g2.outerJoinVertices(newDistances)((vid, 
> vd, newSum) => {
>   val newSumVal =
>   
> newSum.getOrElse((Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId]()))
>   (vd._1 || vid == currentVertexId,
>   math.min(vd._2, newSumVal._1),
>   if (vd._2 < newSumVal._1) vd._3 else 
> newSumVal._2)})
>   }
>   
>   g.outerJoinVertices(g2.vertices)((vid, vd, dist) =>
>   (vd, 
> dist.getOrElse((false,Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId]()))
>.productIterator.toList.tail))
>   }
> 
>   //  Path Finding - random node from which to find all paths
>   val v1 = 400028222916L
> 
> I then call their function with my graph and a random vertex ID. Previously I 
> had issues with `v1` not being recognised as `long` type and the `L` suffix 
> solved this.
> 
>   val results = dijkstra(my_graph, 1L).vertices.map(_._2).collect
>   
>   println(results)
>   
> However, this returns the following:
> 
> Error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
> scala.runtime.ObjectRef.create(Ljava/lang/Object;)Lscala/runtime/ObjectRef;
>   at GraphX$.dijkstra$1(GraphX.scala:51)
>   at GraphX$.main(GraphX.scala:85)
>   at GraphX.main(GraphX.scala)
>   at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>   at 
> sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
>   at 
> sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
>   at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
>   at 
> org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.org$apache$spark$deploy$SparkSubmit$$runMain(SparkSubmit.scala:731)
>   at 
> org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.doRunMain$1(SparkSubmit.scala:181)
>   at org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.submit(SparkSubmit.scala:206)
>   at org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.main(SparkSubmit.scala:121)
>   at org.apache.

Re: java.lang.NoSuchMethodError - GraphX

2016-10-25 Thread Brian Wilson
Thank you Michael! This looks perfect but I have a `NoSuchMethodError` that I 
cannot understand. 

I am trying to implement a weighted shortest path algorithm from your `Spark 
GraphX in Action` book. The part in question is Listing 6.4 "Executing the 
shortest path algorithm that uses breadcrumbs"  from Chapter 6 [here][1].

I have my own graph that I create from two RDDs. There are `344436` vertices 
and `772983` edges. I can perform an unweighted shortest path computation using 
the native GraphX library and I'm confident in the graph construction. 

In this case I use their Dijkstra's implementation as follows:

val my_graph: Graph[(Long),Double] = Graph.apply(verticesRDD, 
edgesRDD).cache()

def dijkstra[VD](g:Graph[VD,Double], origin:VertexId) = {
var g2 = g.mapVertices(
(vid,vd) => (false, if (vid == origin) 0 else 
Double.MaxValue,

List[VertexId]()))

for (i <- 1L to g.vertices.count-1) {
val currentVertexId =
g2.vertices.filter(!_._2._1)

.fold((0L,(false,Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId](((a,b) =>
if (a._2._2 < b._2._2) 
a else b)
._1

val newDistances = 
g2.aggregateMessages[(Double,List[VertexId])](
ctx => if (ctx.srcId == 
currentVertexId)
 
ctx.sendToDst((ctx.srcAttr._2 + ctx.attr,

ctx.srcAttr._3 :+ ctx.srcId)),
(a,b) => if (a._1 < b._1) a 
else b)

g2 = g2.outerJoinVertices(newDistances)((vid, 
vd, newSum) => {
val newSumVal =

newSum.getOrElse((Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId]()))
(vd._1 || vid == currentVertexId,
math.min(vd._2, newSumVal._1),
if (vd._2 < newSumVal._1) vd._3 else 
newSumVal._2)})
}

g.outerJoinVertices(g2.vertices)((vid, vd, dist) =>
(vd, 
dist.getOrElse((false,Double.MaxValue,List[VertexId]()))
 .productIterator.toList.tail))
}

//  Path Finding - random node from which to find all paths
val v1 = 400028222916L

I then call their function with my graph and a random vertex ID. Previously I 
had issues with `v1` not being recognised as `long` type and the `L` suffix 
solved this.

val results = dijkstra(my_graph, 1L).vertices.map(_._2).collect

println(results)

However, this returns the following:

Error: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: 
scala.runtime.ObjectRef.create(Ljava/lang/Object;)Lscala/runtime/ObjectRef;
at GraphX$.dijkstra$1(GraphX.scala:51)
at GraphX$.main(GraphX.scala:85)
at GraphX.main(GraphX.scala)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at 
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:62)
at 
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:43)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:498)
at 
org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.org$apache$spark$deploy$SparkSubmit$$runMain(SparkSubmit.scala:731)
at 
org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.doRunMain$1(SparkSubmit.scala:181)
at org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.submit(SparkSubmit.scala:206)
at org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit$.main(SparkSubmit.scala:121)
at org.apache.spark.deploy.SparkSubmit.main(SparkSubmit.scala)

Line 51 refers to the line `var g2 = g.mapVertices(`
Line 85 refers to the line `val results = dijkstra(my_graph, 
1L).vertices.map(_._2).collect`

What method is this exception referring to? I am able to package with `sbt` 
without error and I canno see what method I am calling whcih does not exist. 

Many thanks!

Brian

  [1]: https://www.manning.com/books/spark-graphx-in-action#downloads 
<https://www.manning.com/books/spark-graphx-in-action#downloads>

> On 24 Oct 2016, at 16:54, Michael Malak <michaelma...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Chapter 6 of my book implements Dijkstra's Algorithm. The source code is 
> available to download for free. 
> https://www.manning.com/books/spark-graphx-in-action 
> <https://www.manni

Shortest path with directed and weighted graphs

2016-10-24 Thread Brian Wilson
I have been looking at the ShortestPaths function inbuilt with Spark here 
.

Am I correct in saying there is no support for weighted graphs with this 
function? By that I mean that it assumes all edges carry a weight = 1

Many thanks

Brian 

Re: [asterisk-users] Removing mailbox and password prompt for voicemail

2016-07-30 Thread Brian Wilson
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 7:18 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain  wrote:

>
> Bad, bad idea.  If you remove the password then anyone can get to the
> mailbox.


Depends on your use case, at home I have several phones and one mailbox. So
I _want_ everyone to get to the mailbox with a minimum of effort.

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Re: [asterisk-dev] [asterisk-users] Removing mailbox and password prompt for voicemail

2016-07-30 Thread Brian Wilson
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 7:18 AM, D'Arcy J.M. Cain  wrote:

>
> Bad, bad idea.  If you remove the password then anyone can get to the
> mailbox.


Depends on your use case, at home I have several phones and one mailbox. So
I _want_ everyone to get to the mailbox with a minimum of effort.

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Re: [asterisk-users] Removing mailbox and password prompt for voicemail

2016-07-30 Thread Brian Wilson
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 10:43 PM, Nabeel <nabeelshik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am using Asterisk voicemail on a CentOS 7 server. I would like to be
> able to remove the 'mailbox' prompt and 'password' prompt when a user tries
> to access their voicemail. I can remove the 'password' prompt by not
> setting a password for the user, but the 'mailbox' prompt is always heard.
> Please let me know how Asterisk can be configured to remove these prompts.
>
> Nabeel
>

It sounds like you really want it to jump straight into one voicemail box
with no auth, not just removing the prompts. Try something like this

exten => *85,1,VoicemailMain(100,s)

When you dial *85, you will get voicemail for mailbox 100, and no passcode
prompt. Jumps straight into the menu "You have FOUR new messages..."

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Re: [asterisk-users] Remove 'Comedian Mail' Message

2016-07-30 Thread Brian Wilson
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 11:01 PM, Nabeel <nabeelshik...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to remove the 'Comedian Mail' name/message played when a user
> tries to access their voicemail. Please let me know how to do this.
>
> Nabeel
>

It plays a file /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/en/vm-login.wav

The recording says "Comedian Mail, please log in now." We thought we still
needed a voice prompt, so we recorded a new message.

I am not sure what happens if the file is missing, try removing it and test.
Alternatively the file could be empty (0 seconds of audio) or have a tone
or some other sound in it as feedback.

The file has to be in the right format for asterisk, after recording it on
a Windows machine, I used this command to convert it:

sox infile.wav -r 8000 -e signed-integer -b 16 -c 1 outfile.wav

"Sox" figures out the input format.

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[asterisk-users] __sip_xmit Returned -1 Invalid Argument

2016-07-26 Thread Brian Wilson
Reviving an old thread, still seeing this.

Brian Wilson wrote:
>* I've been getting slammed with these messages on my console lately.
*>>* ed -1: Invalid argument
*>* [2016-05-31 10:09:40] WARNING[16249]: chan_sip.c:3775 __sip_xmit:
*>* sip_xmit of 0x7f05140803f0 (len 559) to 192.168.1.45:0
<http://192.168.1.45:0>
*>* <http://192.168.1.45:0 <http://192.168.1.45:0>> returned -1:
Invalid argument
*>* [2016-05-31 10:09:40] WARNING[16249]: chan_sip.c:3775 __sip_xmit:
*>* sip_xmit of 0x7f05140803f0 (len 559) to 192.168.1.45:0
<http://192.168.1.45:0>
*>* <http://192.168.1.45:0 <http://192.168.1.45:0>> returned -1:
Invalid argument
*
Joshua Colp responded:
> It's an invalid argument because the port appears to be 0,
> which won't work. How it got to be that I don't know... a full log may provide
further enlightenment.

Currently I have 9000+ messages similar to this:

[2016-07-25 23:06:52] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 725) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:06:52] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 725) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:06:52] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 727) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:06:52] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 728) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:06:52] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 729) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:06:53] WARNING[1993] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 729) to 192.168.89.172:54490 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:07:04] WARNING[14771] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 711) to 192.168.89.172:54499 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:22:33] WARNING[15801] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 711) to 192.168.89.172:54502 returned -2: Success
[2016-07-25 23:22:33] WARNING[15802] chan_sip.c: sip_xmit of
0x7f1ce8687450 (len 711) to 192.168.89.172:54502 returned -2: Success

Port is not zero on these. Error code has changed from -1 to -2

What do you mean by a "full log".

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[asterisk-users] 1 way audio but audio+video is fine

2016-07-14 Thread Brian Wilson
Sporadically we get 1 way audio when one party is outside our firewall.

The caller is on NAT, and it works fine most of the time. Caller can hear
the called party, same thing going the other direction. Caller can hear
called party.

Asterisk 13.9 on Debian
chan_sip with  two identical Grandstream GXV3240 SIP phones

In the CLI, I can see calls on our PBX running media on port 5004 when the
call is audio only. When the caller switches to video calls it opens ports
5004 and 5006 and everything works fine.

This does not make sense to me. It seems like audio on port 5004 should
fail either way -- adding another media channel for video should not affect
audio.

I believe I have UDP ports 5000-4 open right now on the firewall.

I also don't understand why it varies from day to day.

Any ideas on how to debug or what might be happening?

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Re: [asterisk-users] SPA112 flapping

2016-06-17 Thread Brian Wilson
I gave up on a couple devices here in my home network (an old SPA2000 and a
cheap DP715 grandstream) and plugged their IP addreses into Asterisk and
turned off registration. No more annoying messages.

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mike Diehl <mdiehlena...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've got a device that seems to become unreachable for about 2 minutes,
> every
> hour.  From what I can tell, it isn't due to network or server issues.  Any
> ideas?
>
> TIA.
>
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Re: [asterisk-dev] BuildSystem: make --jobs without amount of thread hangs

2016-06-08 Thread Brian Wilson
This is an issue in make not in asterisk so there is no point in reporting
it in the asterisk bug tracker. I tried it on mine and it started spewing
fork errors. I have 8 cores so normally do "make -j 8" with great results.

>From the man page for make:  "If the -j option is given without an
argument, make will not limit the number of jobs that can run
simultaneously."

It should probably say "not specifying a number will almost certainly
overload your CPU".





On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Scott Griepentrog <sgriepent...@digium.com>
wrote:

> I would suspect that to be a problem with make dealing successfully with
> the omitted number.  I use this all the time without incident:
>
> make -j$(nproc)
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Alexander Traud <pabstr...@compuserve.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Ubuntu 16.04 LTS, when I build Asterisk 13.9.1 via
>>
>>
>> wget
>> downloads.asterisk.org/pub/telephony/asterisk/asterisk-13-current.tar.gz
>> tar zxf asterisk-1*.tar.gz
>> sudo apt install libssl-dev libncurses-dev libnewt-dev libxml2-dev
>> libsqlite3-dev uuid-dev libjansson-dev libedit-dev libblocksruntime-dev
>> ./configure
>>
>> make --jobs
>>
>> the whole computer hangs. Normally, this indicates a dependency issue in
>> the Makefile. Furthermore, I faced dependency issues with make --jobs while
>> doing a partial compile. However, at that time, I did not debug this.
>> Therefore, even specifying not unlimited but a certain amount of threads
>> might not reliable in all cases.
>>
>> I would love to debug this, however, I have no idea where to start. Does
>> anyone know about a debugging strategy for this? Or should I just report
>> this issue on JIRA, so that someone else looks into this one day?
>>
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[asterisk-users] __sip_xmit Returned -1 Invalid Argument

2016-05-31 Thread Brian Wilson
I've been getting slammed with these messages on my console lately.

ed -1: Invalid argument
[2016-05-31 10:09:40] WARNING[16249]: chan_sip.c:3775 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit
of 0x7f05140803f0 (len 559) to 192.168.1.45:0 returned -1: Invalid argument
[2016-05-31 10:09:40] WARNING[16249]: chan_sip.c:3775 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit
of 0x7f05140803f0 (len 559) to 192.168.1.45:0 returned -1: Invalid argument
[
etc etc etc comes in bunches of about 10, all with same IP address in that
bunch.
Does not appear to be related to one phone -- I have a mix of devices.
They appear to happen when a phone registers. The debug message "Invalid
argument" is not helping me, I wish it were more descriptive. I peeked at
the code and there is no indication what __sip_xmit() does (like all
Asterisk code I have looked at so far), looks like it might do MANY things.

It does not appear to be tied to one version, I have tried 13.7.2, 13.8.0,
13.9.1

I don't see anything glaring when I "sip set debug on" and "core set debug
10" -- just more messages that I don't understand.

Like this --

---
[2016-05-31 10:10:39] WARNING[16249]: chan_sip.c:3775 __sip_xmit: sip_xmit
of 0x7f0514050430 (len 559) to 192.168.1.45:0 returned -1: Invalid argument
Retransmitting #5 (no NAT) to 192.168.1.45:0:
NOTIFY sip:spa2000@192.168.1.45:5060 SIP/2.0
Via: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.1.2:5060;branch=z9hG4bK0d196419
Max-Forwards: 70
From: "asterisk" <sip:asterisk@192.168.1.2>;tag=as522feace
To: <sip:spa2000@192.168.1.45:5060>
Contact: <sip:asterisk@192.168.1.2:5060>
Call-ID: 0d6963aa7350ce3274e7af420c35daa6@192.168.1.2:5060
CSeq: 102 NOTIFY
User-Agent: Asterisk PBX 13.9.1
Event: message-summary
Content-Type: application/simple-message-summary
Content-Length: 91

Messages-Waiting: no
Message-Account: sip:asterisk@192.168.1.2
Voice-Message: 0/0 (0/0)

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Re: [nfc-l] Migrants 5/24/16

2016-05-25 Thread Brian Wilson
FCL.html>
>>
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Re: [asterisk-users] asterisk admin interface

2016-05-16 Thread Brian Wilson
You are correct. Is there any open source application in that?


> According to WikiPedia, there are open-source implementations of vi
> available:
>

All my instincts say "No no! Use emacs not vi!"
but I think the OP might not know saying "vi" is intended as a joke?

For small systems using a text editor is okay... watch out for typos that
will disable your entire pbx... do "dialplan reload" when you change
extensions.conf and then scroll back looking for ERROR messages. I find the
color coding to be extremely helpful.

Likewise open "asterisk -r" immediately after starting asterisk and watch
for error messages. Be warned that sometimes the errors will lead you far
far astray. Usually they are useful.


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Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk 11 on Centos: Voicemail crashes when recording message

2016-05-16 Thread Brian Wilson
ight on the frequent
> "res_rtp_asterisk.c:4264 ast_rtp_read: RTP Read too short" warnings I'm
> seeing, that'd also be appreciated.
>
> Oh - one more thing, I had to disable 2 codecs (lpc10 and ilbc) because
> they used an instruction that doesn't exist on the server (it's an oldish
> HP mini-server). I'm guessing from the above message that VM might be
> afflicted by the same issue. Presumably compiling from source will solve
> this? (I've compiled 13.7, no errors reported, but I've not tried running
> it yet)
>
> Cheers!
> Ade.
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Re: [asterisk-users] cannot find -lasteriskssl

2016-05-05 Thread Brian Wilson
I ran into that (and reported it) and found the easiest hack is to copy the
library manually into place, when you hit that error it's built and waiting
in main/
For example

sudo cp main/libasteriskssl.so.1 /usr/lib
cd /usr/lib
sudo ln -s libasteriskssl.so.1 libasteriskssl.so
sudo ldconfig

Then the build can complete. I can't remember if I had to do the symlink, I
think it will build anyway and then it does that step in 'make install'

I always try to build new asterisks on brand new vagrant virtual machines
that have the minimum required packages installed, and no cruft left over
from previous builds or installations. Things like this are more likely to
show up that way.

Brian


On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 10:21 AM, Michael Ströder <mich...@stroeder.com>
wrote:

> Joshua Colp wrote:
> > Michael Ströder wrote:
> >> Joshua Colp wrote:
> >>> Michael Ströder wrote:
> >>>> HI!
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm trying to compile asterisk 13.8.2+ on openSUSE Linux but it
> fails. It seems
> >>>> file ./main/libasteriskssl.so.1 is present when it fails. Building
> 13.7.2 works
> >>>> without any problem. It fails since 13.8.0.
> >>>>
> >>>> $ ./bootstrap.sh
> >>>> $ ./configure
> >>>> $ make menuselect.makeopts;menuselect/menuselect --enable chan_ooh323
> >>>> $ make
> >>>> ..
> >>>> failure (see message below)
> >>>>
> >>>> Any hint is appreciated. Thanks in advance.
> >>> Does this problem still occur in 13.9.0-rc2?
> >>
> >> No. Build of 13.9.0-rc2 seems to work.
> >>
> >> When will 13.9.0 be released?
> >
> > Probably a week or so I'd guess, maybe sooner.
>
> Ok, then I'll wait for this release. Thanks.
>
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Re: [asterisk-users] PJProject Bundled Update

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Wilson
Clever. Some packages are missing though. Should I convey this to someone?

On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:28 PM, George Joseph  wrote:

>
> ​Run ./contrib/scripts/install_prereq.  I think your'e missing the
> python-dev package.  I'll update the Wiki.​
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Re: [asterisk-users] PJProject Bundled Update

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Wilson
The way I got this build to succeed last night was by using a separate
pjproject, error I get with bundle is the same after applying your patches.

First patch succeeds.
Second patch fails in 'configure'.

What I did -- I downloaded your diffs, unpacked a fresh copy of the
asterisk tarball, then applied patches.
Then did configure, make menuselect, make

Looks like you were working with an older version of configure? I think
those changes that failed are already in the release file.

Build still fails with

Makefile:117: recipe for target
'source/pjsip-apps/src/python/build/_pjsua.so' failed
make[2]: *** [source/pjsip-apps/src/python/build/_pjsua.so] Error 1
Makefile:20: recipe for target 'pjproject' failed
make[1]: *** [pjproject] Error 2
Makefile:398: recipe for target 'third-party' failed
make: *** [third-party] Error 2

I did ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-imap=system --with-pjproject-bundled

I am building on a Debian 8 virtual machine.


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Re: [asterisk-users] PJProject Bundled Update

2016-03-31 Thread Brian Wilson
I think that I worked around the first issue (libasteriskssl) last night.
Should have gone to bed earlier instead. :-)
Will test your patches this morning. I build on a barebones Debian 8.x
virtual machine - not "older" unless you consider "stable" = "older".

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> As you know, the ability to use a bundled version of pjproject was
> introduced with Asterisk 13.8.0.
>
> More info on the Asterisk Wiki
> <https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Building+and+Installing+pjproject#BuildingandInstallingpjproject-bundled>
>  and
> in this email thread
> <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2016-March/288685.html>.
>
> Since then I've fixed a few issues related to older versions of Debian and
> CentOS which you can in these 2 patches.
> https://gerrit.asterisk.org//2516
> https://gerrit.asterisk.org/2449
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> Any other feedback?  I'd like to get an idea of how many folks have tried
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Re: [Frameworks] Cinemalab (formerly Western Cine) ceases photochemical operations

2016-02-16 Thread Brian Wilson
Very sorry to hear this.  I've been using Cinemalab for the past year and 
Robert and Dan have always done really good work for me.  
Robert told me today they plan to push forward with scanning and digital 
preservation.  I'm certainly glad they'll survive in some incarnation, but 
their processing and printing services will be sorely missed by the community.
Brian Wilson 

On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:02 PM, Sean Weitzel <panaf...@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

 Denver real estate is really messing up small businesses. It looks like 
DR5.com is out of business for a while. They got forced out of their building 
as well.

On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:45 AM, <stri...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is sad to hear! I remember those 4am drop-offs fondly as well... 

On Feb 16, 2016, at 12:40, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com> wrote:


So sorry to hear about this. I remember dropping off envelopes with daylight 
boxes full of film and cash payments at 4am in Englewood through the slot in 
the door, and being able to pick up my workprints soon after noon during my 
college days. Later, I worked with them on the timing and release printing of 
my graduate thesis film. The care and attention they gave to experimental work, 
as well as the time Robert spent with me on the phone and in person to explain 
the best way to get the look I wanted was valuable to me, and I'm sure to many 
others. They will be missed.

-JH

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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 5:48 AM, Robert Schaller <rob...@ontosmedia.com> wrote:

In the end, it happened suddenly.  There had been difficult negotiations with 
an avaricious landlord for a few months.  It looked like it would be worked 
out, that there were at least three months before any move would need to be 
contemplated, but some ten days ago the landlord arbitrarily decided that he 
needed another $1,000 a month effective immediately.  It was the proverbial 
straw that broke the camel's back, and the lab decided to say no.  A week ago 
was the final processing run; tomorrow the last things leave the building.
One of three processing machines is being saved, intended for a new artist-run 
lab in Denver.  I grieve for the others, but they were too big and there was no 
time.
So passes a lab that has consistently been a vital part of the experimental 
film world.  They printed many, many important and beautiful films from 
Brakhage's Interim in 1952 to Mothlight  to the work of Phil Solomon to Nick 
Dorsky's most recent work.  They will be missed, a casualty of a changing 
commercial landscape and, oddly, of the legalization of marijuana in Colorado 
that has driven up rent for warehouse space.
There are a number of optical and contact printers, optical sound recorders, 
etc., that have been saved.  Please contact Robert David, the owner of 
Cinemalab, at 303 783 1020 or robert.da...@cinemalab.com for more information.
Meanwhile, Cinemalab continues it's digital mastering and film transfer work. 
In a much smaller space…
RIP, Cinemalab.


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Re: [MCN-L] LAM interoperability SIG?

2015-11-18 Thread Brian Wilson
Stefano,

I am quite interested in this topic, and would be happy to share details of
the work we are doing at The Henry Ford through the listserv, MCN
conference, SIG and/or other platforms. Thank you for sharing the slides
and promoting the discussion.

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Re: Set line breaks, word wraps and word searching for Thai and other non-latin languages

2015-11-16 Thread Brian Wilson
>Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> Can we see the start and/or end of a word by recognizing characters?
> Or do we need to recognize words?
> 
> The spell checker does have some knowledge about where words start and
> end.  It's a bit slow doing it that way, but might still be acceptable.
> 
> I suppose we could have a character class that indicates no spaces are
> used to separated words.  That will assume the character is only used in
> that kind of language.
> 

Thank you Bram. I believe there are C algorithms (someplace) that define what 
is a Thai syllable.  (I am not sure if this is the same as the ICU algorithms 
or not.) This would allow wrapping and navigation etc. at syllable level. I 
wouldn't recommend it for line breaking, but it would be less CPU intensive 
than a dictionary solution. However, for use of '*' and other nifty word level 
commands, tapping into ICU dictionary algorithms seems necessary. In my 
naivety, I ask, could we enable a setting that turns on/off ICU dictionary 
algorithms for Southeast and Southern Asian languages "in one fell swoop"?  Or 
does this need to be hammered out one language at a time?

And?? If ICU dictionary algorithms are supported, would this mean thai spelling 
would be naturally supported, or would this be a separate step?

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Re: Set line breaks, word wraps and word searching for Thai and other non-latin languages

2015-11-16 Thread Brian Wilson
On Saturday, November 14, 2015 at 9:02:24 PM UTC-8, ZyX wrote:
> ​`gq` behaviour is by a  and ​ option values and you may 
> use them if you know a program which serves your purposes. `w` and other 
> motions can be remapped, same for `J` (in the last case you may manually 
> choose between `J` (join with spaces) and `gJ` (join without inserting 
> spaces, but also without removing them)). So you can have some minor level of 
> convenience by configuring Vim without patching it. But this does not work for
> 
> 
> 1. Motions inside “nore” mappings.
> 2. expand('') and other means of getting word under the cursor (e.g. 
> :edit ).
> 3. Behaviour when  option is set.
> 4. `\<`/`\>`. Though I am unsure that this should be fixed: I always parsed 
> this as “place between non-word and word character” and “place between word 
> and non-word character”, and not “place where word starts” and “place where 
> word ends”. Documentation says about the second interpretation, but I have a 
> strong impression (based on wording, actual implementation and the fact that 
> this is my interpretation) that author meant the first variant.
> 
>  

Thank you ZyX,
Learning the difference between J and gJ is very helpful

Regarding remapping of w, I do not know how to remap it such that it would move 
to the next Thai word.

4. Perhaps an example will clarify the technical description of what I mean 
since I am not sure of the difference between the two examples that you give. 
:) If I type '*' while sitting on a Thai word, I would expect it to go the next 
matching word and not try to match the entire unspaced-phrase. 'diw' should not 
delete the entire phrase, but only the Thai word that I am sitting on. etc.

Brian

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Set line breaks, word wraps and word searching for Thai and other non-latin languages

2015-11-12 Thread Brian Wilson
I posted the following question on the vi/vim stack exchange

and was told that the vim-dev mailing list would be a more appropriate
place to ask.

Brian

It is edited here as best I can with the assumption that the entered text
is utf-8.

My purpose is for a Thai solution, but instead of a hack, a more general
solution should be available that will help the more than 1 Billion people
of the various Indic languages.


I can set the text width and can manually line break imported paragraphs
with the following as an example.

set textwidth=72
gqq

I can also navigate English text files with the standard 'w' 'b' 'e' '*'
commands, etc.

This works well for English, however Thai and other Brahmic scripts of
South and South-east Asia space at the phrasal level. Libreoffice, Word,
Indesign, TeX, etc. "know" where line breaks should occur. They also "know"
where individual words are, even though there are no spaces. I can navigate
by Thai word in these programs. And I can even type English, Thai and Lao
in the chrome address bar and then use alternate arrow on my mac to
navigate at the word level in all three of these languages. It seems that
these programs are tapping into work that has already been done at some
lower level. If vim could tap into the same work, then someone could edit a
multi-language document without having to do anything fancy. 'w' 'dw'
(etc.) would just work happily from one word to the next regardless of the
language.

Line breaking poses a different challenge as these languages space at the
phrasal level so that the trailing space or absence of a trailing space at
the end of the line has meaning when breaking and joining lines. For
purpose of example, the spaces are similar to an oxford comma and other
punctuation and is the difference of whether or not we had Grandma for
breakfast. (Let's eat Grandma. vs. Let's eat, Grandma.) One, also, doesn't,
want, random, spaces, coming, when, they, are, not, needed.

*My question is two fold:* 1. How can vim tap into already available
libraries in order to recognize words from Indic languages (including and
especially Thai) for the purpose of navigation and other vim word level
commands. 2. Is it possible to add language awareness for the purpose of
line breaking so that vim does not strip/add spaces when breaking/joining
lines at words in Thai or other Indic languages.

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Re: [postgis-users] Loading a PostGIS dump

2015-08-26 Thread Brian Wilson
Please give more details :-) Sorry -kidding-  just had to say that.

These are just the suggestions of another newbie. Take with grain of salt.

Do the easiest thing - kill the loader, drop the database, create the user,
create the database as geo_user and start again.

If you use geo_user to create the database you know he exists and that he
owns the database so he won't have trouble writing to it. You can back off
the perms later if you want. createdb -U geo_user foo

I've never used that postgis_restore.pl script to do a load, I just send
the sql to psql (upon reviewing docs on that script I have probably been
doing it a bad way! :-)

Help for the script mentions that you have to install topology and raster
as separate steps before loading IFF you were using them before.

Crank up debugging, don't wait hours for results. I looked up the script
and it has  a -v option. Try that. You are using a real computer so use the
tee command to watch your error file as the script runs.

Instead of ending your command with  errors.txt use | tee errors.txt
This will pipe the errors from stdout to tee and tee will output both the
errors.txt file and also send the output stdout so you see it on your
screen as it happens.


Another idea, you should be able to open another window or pgadmin3 and
examine the database as it gets loaded -- be like the job descriptions --
must be able to multitask. It's a database, would not be much fun if you
could not access it from more than one program.

Brian


On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Lee Hachadoorian 
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 New Linux machine, new PostGIS install (postgresql-9.3-postgis-2.1). I
 created DB and added extensions. Now trying to load database using
 postgis_restore.pl. This is a large database (63GB dump, created from
 DB that was probably 600GB or more).

 The script ran for a while. Then it stopped at

  setval
 
  53
 (1 row)

 It's been hanging out there for hours now, so I assume something is
 hopelessly wrong.

 The loader created foo.dump.lst at 10:50am and I piped errors to a
 text file. Errors file shows that I did not create a user who owns one
 of the schemas. `ERROR:  role geo_user does not exist` appears 260
 times.

 Can I just kill the loader script with Ctrl+C? Is database
 recoverable? Should I just drop database and try again from the
 beginning? Is failure related to missing role, or if not how do I
 figure out what the error is so that I can get this to run to
 completion?

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Re: [postgis-users] Loading a PostGIS dump

2015-08-26 Thread Brian Wilson
Best advice ever: Listen to PAUL not to BRIAN. :-)

I was also going to say what makes you think it stopped? Stop is usually
noisy and ends with a command prompt.

Does it load the tables then set ownership? That would be easy to fix later.

My own Q -- What would be a reasonable query to run to see if it's loading?

Brian


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wrote:

 The COPY command used to load tables is basically 100% silent, so it
 just might have been working away. A good thing to check is 'top' to
 see if the postgres process is busy using CPU. If so, it's hard at
 work on your process. If not, then perhaps something is awry.

 P

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Lee Hachadoorian
 lee.hachadooria...@gmail.com wrote:
  New Linux machine, new PostGIS install (postgresql-9.3-postgis-2.1). I
  created DB and added extensions. Now trying to load database using
  postgis_restore.pl. This is a large database (63GB dump, created from
  DB that was probably 600GB or more).
 
  The script ran for a while. Then it stopped at
 
   setval
  
   53
  (1 row)
 
  It's been hanging out there for hours now, so I assume something is
  hopelessly wrong.
 
  The loader created foo.dump.lst at 10:50am and I piped errors to a
  text file. Errors file shows that I did not create a user who owns one
  of the schemas. `ERROR:  role geo_user does not exist` appears 260
  times.
 
  Can I just kill the loader script with Ctrl+C? Is database
  recoverable? Should I just drop database and try again from the
  beginning? Is failure related to missing role, or if not how do I
  figure out what the error is so that I can get this to run to
  completion?
 
  Best,
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[Bug 1459593] [NEW] package libncurses5:i386 5.9+20140712-2ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: package libncurses5:i386 is already installed and configured

2015-05-28 Thread brian wilson
Public bug reported:

I was downloading 'wine' and 'software updates' wanted to update also. So I 
said 'yes'. So both were trying to download at the same time. Machine hung.
Ubunty 15.04

ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.04
Package: libncurses5:i386 5.9+20140712-2ubuntu2
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.19.0-15.15-generic 3.19.3
Uname: Linux 3.19.0-15-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.17.2-0ubuntu1
AptdaemonVersion: 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
Date: Thu May 28 10:15:16 2015
DuplicateSignature: package:libncurses5:i386:5.9+20140712-2ubuntu2:package 
libncurses5:i386 is already installed and configured
ErrorMessage: package libncurses5:i386 is already installed and configured
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-27 (0 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet - Release amd64 (20150422)
PackageArchitecture: i386
RelatedPackageVersions:
 dpkg 1.17.25ubuntu1
 apt  1.0.9.7ubuntu4
SourcePackage: dpkg
Title: package libncurses5:i386 5.9+20140712-2ubuntu2 failed to 
install/upgrade: package libncurses5:i386 is already installed and configured
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: dpkg (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


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[Bug 1459595] [NEW] package libuuid1:i386 2.25.2-4ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: package libuuid1:i386 is already installed and configured

2015-05-28 Thread brian wilson
Public bug reported:

Ubuntu 15.04

ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 15.04
Package: libuuid1:i386 2.25.2-4ubuntu2
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.19.0-15.15-generic 3.19.3
Uname: Linux 3.19.0-15-generic x86_64
NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia
ApportVersion: 2.17.2-0ubuntu1
AptdaemonVersion: 1.1.1+bzr982-0ubuntu3
Architecture: amd64
Date: Thu May 28 10:15:16 2015
DuplicateSignature: package:libuuid1:i386:2.25.2-4ubuntu2:package libuuid1:i386 
is already installed and configured
ErrorMessage: package libuuid1:i386 is already installed and configured
InstallationDate: Installed on 2015-05-27 (0 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 15.04 Vivid Vervet - Release amd64 (20150422)
PackageArchitecture: i386
RelatedPackageVersions:
 dpkg 1.17.25ubuntu1
 apt  1.0.9.7ubuntu4
SourcePackage: dpkg
Title: package libuuid1:i386 2.25.2-4ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: package 
libuuid1:i386 is already installed and configured
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: dpkg (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New


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[hpv-boats] closure notice

2015-02-01 Thread Brian Wilson
This list will be closed in a few minutes. The subscriber list has been
sent to Bill Goldthorpe who is installing it on a Yahoo Groups list. The
archive (of this version) will remain on hupi.org website.
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[WISPA] Red Shift on here?

2015-01-05 Thread Brian Wilson
Anyone from Red Shift on this list?
Or anyone else in the Monterey area?
Will be visiting the area soon.

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[icinga-users] database sync problem?

2015-01-03 Thread Brian Wilson
Okay, so I set up Icinga 2 (from sources) and set up a hosts file and fired
it up.
It works. Then I change the config file, experimenting with new
check_commands, but it appears when I restart icinga2 that it continues to
run tests that are removed.

I assume the database gets out of sync, that for some reason whatever loads
the text-based files into the database is not doing its job very well.

How can I remove these defunct database entries?

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Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNT Specific PHP code Vol 896, Issue 8

2014-12-03 Thread Brian Wilson
php? ick. Then you won't want the python code I am writing? :-)

Has anyone here ever tried noc?
https://kb.nocproject.org/display/SITE/NOC

I found it when searching for MT and UBNT code and played with it until I
hit language issues. I can't read Russian docs!

Brian

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 Me too.PLease send any php code for monitoring

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Re: [WISPA] Looking for service

2014-11-14 Thread Brian Wilson
There's a California list?

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
wrote:

  Cool.  I'll set something up.  Are you guys all on the California list?

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 11:55 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Totally should!



 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  We should have a mini-meet at the black bear, since we all seem to be
 close enough to smell the same stink. ;-)

 -Kristian


 On 11/14/2014 11:37 AM, Mike Lyon wrote:

 Yes, it actually is because of a particular stockyard right at that
 intersection next to the sugar factory and train tracks.

  Moo.

  -Mike


 On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:34 AM, Tim Kerns t...@cv-access.com wrote:

   Manteca in the early 80’s had stockyards

  The smell is most likely residual...

   *From:* Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Friday, November 14, 2014 11:07 AM
 *To:* WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Looking for service


 Which is odd, because Manteca at 205 and 99 DOES smell like a bathroom.

 Think they accidentally swapped the names...
 On Nov 14, 2014 10:46 AM, Kristian Hoffmann kh...@fire2wire.com
 wrote:

  A stones throw from our office in Salida (Exit) which sits on the
 county line, and about an hour from Los Banos (the bathrooms).  I'm sure
 I'm missing some, buts omeone sure had a sense of humor.

 -Kristian

 On 11/14/2014 09:54 AM, Gino Villarini wrote:

  Manteca! Wow that translate to Lard in spanish…



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  From: John Thomas jtho...@quarnet.com
 Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Date: Friday, November 14, 2014 at 1:48 PM
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Subject: [WISPA] Looking for service

   Looking for 10 meg

 1640 West Yosemite Blvd.
 Manteca, CA 95337

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Re: [WISPA] chilly tower climb

2014-11-12 Thread Brian Wilson
Goggles will go right over the top of your glasses.

Finally I can make a cogent response on here based on my experiences. As a
bicyclist.

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 What if you wear glasses?


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 Direct: 937-552-2343
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 Suite 1337
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 Get some ski goggles.  Keep your eyes warm and your body won’t be so
 cold.  Proven scientific fact.

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 Subject: [WISPA] chilly tower climb

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Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product

2014-11-03 Thread Brian Wilson
On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Chris Wright ch...@velociter.net wrote:

 Well I doubt it’ll get easier and less expensive than Apple’s $20 Server
 plugin for OSX. As far as Windows, I don’t think M$ offers anything. You
 could set up a squid server – good luck.



 Chris Wright

 Velociter Wireless http://www.velociter.net/



Setting Squid itself is pretty easy,  but Windows Updates are weird.
Go look here: http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/WindowsUpdate
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Re: [WISPA] help with kubuntu and Dude

2014-09-08 Thread Brian Wilson
It should not be expanding the tilde with incorrect casing, that's odd. I'd
try putting the full path in instead of the tilde notation

On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Josh Reynolds j...@spitwspots.com wrote:

  I would make a symlink from /Home to /home and see if that fixes it.

 Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 09/08/2014 08:52 AM, Sam wrote:

 At first guess I'd say it's looking for /Home/ but you have it in /home/

 (Linux is case-sensitive on file and directory names.)

 On 9/5/2014 19:37, J. Van Kort wrote:

  running kubuntu 14.04LTS
 cannot get Dude to run in root mode.  Having issue with the proper
 command line syntax.

 Dude is installed at: /home/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Dude/dude.exe

 Attempted command line entry: kdesudo wine ~/.wine/drive_c/Program
 Files/Dude/dude.exe 

 generates an error.  #2758  Cannot find /Home/.
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Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software

2014-08-18 Thread Brian Wilson
Usually I think organic means the system was not designed but grew on its
own. References to fertilizers might not be completely off base though.

Our home grown system is actually both billing and work flow but does not
really include a clean way to track calls, it allows for assigning tasks to
field workers but does not have a help desk orientation.

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Re: [WISPA] Ticketing software

2014-08-17 Thread Brian Wilson
Our current billing system is home grown. Completely organic.


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Scott Reed sr...@nwwnet.net wrote:


 As do most of the other billing systems that are WISPA members.

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[WISPA] Ticketing software

2014-08-16 Thread Brian Wilson
What are people using for customer support ticketing software?

We currently use a combination of pink notes and email.
(and I wish I was joking.)

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Re: [WISPA] Network Monitoring Program

2014-08-15 Thread Brian Wilson
I have inherited a very old version of Nagios and we also use The Dude from
Mikrotik.

That's what we have installed here right now, not a recommendation. ;-)

I am very interested to hear what other people are using, too.
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Re: [WISPA] FCC PET LAb goodies in July

2014-08-02 Thread Brian Wilson
Did you mean to include a URL with this message?


On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:

   Is it Xmas in July? Lots of FCC approval  goodies coming out…



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Local Chapter Guidance

2014-04-23 Thread Brian Wilson
What I learned in Corvallis:

Have a meeting scheduled for the same time slot EVERY month.
Then be there, even if you don't know if anyone will show up.

If no one else shows, you still have a committed time to study and learn
with no distractions. Don't you want that anyway?
If one or two people show, you work together. If 4-5 or more show then
you start having presentations, formal or not.
I think I got the most out of those informal sessions.

In Corvallis meetings varied anywhere from 1 (me!) to 15-20. Formal format
with topic and speaker does not guarantee attendance! I am sure the OSU
calendar impacts it but the big mistake I made the first year was taking a
summer break and then not restarting in the fall. Just ignore the calendar
and keep going.

Trying to get a speaker every month is sure to burn you out.

Now that I am moving I assume the Corvallis group will just cease to exist.
I also plan on starting a similar group in Santa Rosa as soon as I find a
location for meetings.

The first 2 or 3 meetings were stressful to me. (I'm a geek!) After that
it's just fun.

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Installation failures

2013-11-22 Thread Brian Wilson
Hi

I was asked to install the new alpha 4.2 in order to help test the new Lao
word wrapping functionality.

Having followed the instructions on
*https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnMac
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Development/BuildingOnMac *
I received help from the irc chat #libreoffice-dev for an initial error
message (xcode required user acceptance)

I am Installing on imac osX 10.8.5.

However, I am still unable to install and the kind folks on the irc chat
suggested that I post here.

I have piped the results of the make command in the hopes that it is easier
to locate the problem.

make  make.txt

Warnings from terminal # http://pastebin.com/av6KFJ4T
contents of make.txt # http://pastebin.com/r2SQBJzR

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Re: [postgis-users] Ubuntu installation guide - review?

2013-10-25 Thread Brian Wilson
Last night's Corvallis os GIS meeting was about PostGIS... Suggest you follow 
Matt's lead and use vritualbox. I plan on beefing up his notes and posting 
them. I will put a link up here too.

For example you can isolated instance of Ubuntu with 9.2 postgres in a virtual 
machine and will have no collisions.  

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Re: [CODE4LIB] Handwriting and ocr

2013-03-12 Thread Brian Wilson
The Image and Spatial Data Analysis Group at the National Center for
Supercomputing Applications, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
presented at SAA 2012 on their work with OCR and handwritten census data.
Very interesting and if I recall correctly there was mention of grant
opportunities for work on large data sets.

ISDA Census page: http://isda.ncsa.illinois.edu/drupal/project/census

Presentation on slideshare:
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Re: [FOSS-GPS] Myself

2013-02-05 Thread Brian Wilson
If you are interested in GPS then one of the projects some of us work on is
foxtrotgps. Look it up and dive in if you find it interesting.
What GPS things interest you?
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Re: Passwordless authentication between two domains.

2012-11-28 Thread Brian Wilson

 I am still getting the same error. And permissions are all good. 
 When i run SSHD in debug i get this? Has anyone encountered this 
 issue before.
 
 bash-3.2# /bin/sshd.exe -D -ddd -e
 debug2: load_server_config: filename /etc/sshd_config
 debug2: load_server_config: done config len = 206
 debug2: parse_server_config: config /etc/sshd_config len 206
 debug3: /etc/sshd_config:21 setting Protocol 2
 debug3: /etc/sshd_config:46 setting RSAAuthentication yes
 debug3: /etc/sshd_config:47 setting PubkeyAuthentication yes
 debug3: /etc/sshd_config:113 setting Subsystem sftp     /bin/sftp-server
 debug1: sshd version OpenSSH_5.6p1
 debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_rsa_key.
 debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
 debug1: private host key: #0 type 1 RSA
 debug3: Not a RSA1 key file /etc/ssh_host_dsa_key.
 debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
 debug1: private host key: #1 type 2 DSA
 debug1: rexec_argv[0]='/bin/sshd'
 debug1: rexec_argv[1]='-D'
 debug1: rexec_argv[2]='-ddd'
 debug1: rexec_argv[3]='-e'
 debug2: fd 3 setting O_NONBLOCK
 

How were the key files generated?  I know that things like Putty will create 
keys that must be converted for some uses (don't remember the specifics at 
the moment).  This is most likely a wild guess; but I thought I'd throw this 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] zvol access rights - chown zvol on reboot / startup / boot

2012-11-16 Thread Brian Wilson


On 11/16/12, Edward Ned Harvey (opensolarisisdeadlongliveopensolaris)  wrote:
  From: zfs-discuss-boun...@opensolaris.org 
  [mailto:zfs-discuss-(javascript:main.compose()
  boun...@opensolaris.org] On Behalf Of Jim Klimov
  
  Well, as a simple stone-age solution (to simplify your SMF approach),
  you can define custom attributes on dataset, zvols included. I think
  a custom attr must include a colon : in the name, and values can be
  multiline if needed. Simple example follows:
  
  # zfs set owner:user=jim pool/rsvd
  
  Then you can query the zvols for such attribute values and use them
  in chmod, chown, ACL settings, etc. from your script. This way the
  main goal is reached: the ownership config data stays within the pool.
 
 Given that zfs doesn't already have built-in support for these properties at 
 mount time, given the necessity to poll for these values using an 
 as-yet-unwritten SMF service, I'm not necessarily in agreement that zfs 
 properties is a better solution than using a conf file to list these 
 properties on a per-vdev basis. Either way, a SMF service manages it, and 
 it's difficult or impossible to trigger an SMF to occur on every mount, and 
 only on every mount. So the SMF would have to be either a one-time shot at 
 bootup or manual refresh (and consequently miss anything mounted later) or it 
 will have to continuously poll all the filesystems and volumes in the system.

The case that occurred to me is when you move a zpool from one server to 
another. You don't have to worry about moving the configuration file and 
keeping it updated, just in keeping your SMF services in sync between servers, 
and your configuration properties are part of the pool you already imported, 
and are automatically consistent with what they were before on the last server.

 
 An easier event to trigger is the starting of the virtualbox guest. Upon vbox 
 guest starting, check the service properties for that instance of vboxsvc, 
 and chmod if necessary. But vboxsvc runs as non-root user...
 
 I like the idea of using zfs properties, if someday the functionality is 
 going to be built into ZFS, and we can simply scrap the SMF chown service. 
 But these days, ZFS isn't seeing a lot of public development.
 
 If we assume the SMF service is the thing that will actually be used, from 
 now until someday when BTRFS eventually eclipses ZFS, then I would rather see 
 a conf file or SMF service property, so the SMF service doesn't constantly 
 scan all the filesystems and volumes for their zfs properties. It just checks 
 the conf file and knows instantly which ones need to be chown'd.
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] LUN expansion choices

2012-11-13 Thread Brian Wilson
Not sure if this will make it to the list, but I'll try...

On 11/13/12, Peter Tribble 
 wrote:
 Given storage provisioned off a SAN (I know, but sometimes that's
 what you have to work with), what's the best way to expand a pool?
 
 Specifically, I can either grow existing LUNs, a]or add new LUNs.
 
 As an example, If I have 24x 2TB LUNs, and wish to double the
 size of the pool, is it better to add 24 additional 2TB LUNs, or
 get each of the existing LUNs expanded to 4TB each?






The thing I've found about growing the LUN is to evaluate if it saves you time 
and effort in your setup to make it work. So, first I figure out if it's 
possible. Then I figure out how big a PITA it is compared to the PITA of 
allocating new LUNs. For example I've got one SAN backend here where it's easy 
as pie (lun resize blah and then OS steps) and another backend where it 
requires a major undertaking (create temporary horcm files, destroy mirrors, 
run special command to resize mirror, wait, run special command to resize 
source, wait, recreate mirrors, delete temporary horcms, etc etc and *then* the 
OS steps).






What I love about ZFS is that it can handle either approach.






So it depends on your setup. In your case if it's at all painful to grow the 
LUNs, what I'd probably do is allocate new 4TB LUNs - and replace your 2TB LUNs 
with them one at a time with zpool replace, and wait for the resliver to finish 
each time. With autoexpansion on, you should get the additional capacity as 
soon as the resliver for each one is done, and the old 2TB LUNs should be 
reclaimable as soon as it's reslivered out.






That being said, I'm not aware of what any deeper implications of doing that 
are - from what Karl said about balancing the data out as one example.






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Re: environment variables in ssh non-interactive shell

2012-11-12 Thread Brian Wilson
 I'm trying to use environment variables to pilot a windows system
 through cygwin+ssh. Things work nicely with an interactive shell, but
 mess up with a non-interactive shell because my environment variables
 aren't set.
 -snip- 
 Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong?

I'd suggest a simple approach like testing to see if there is a terminal 
attached then source in the .bashrc or other environment setting files.  Try 
something like this:

[[ ! -t 1 ]]  [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]]  . ~/.bashrc

If there is no terminal attached to the session, and there is a .bashrc file 
in ${HOME}, source the file into the current environment.  You may want to do 
something similar for the /etc/profile or ~/.profile files in which case I 
would use a regular if styled statement.  Make sure ${HOME} is set 
(obviously) or explicitly set the value if it is not set in the script.  
Carefully check the file permissions to make sure everything has the correct 
read, write, and execute permissions (i.e. You don't want to execute a file 
that just anyone can write into) or you may get a nasty surprise.

if [[ ! -t 1 ]]
then
 echo -e \n\tNo interactive terminal found for this session.\n\tSetting 
the environment.\n
 [[ ${HOME} =  ]]  HOME=/usr/usr_dir/...
 if [[ -f /etc/profile ]]
 then
  . /etc/profile
 fi
 if [[ -f ${HOME}/.profile ]]
 then
  . ${HOME}/.profile
 fi
 if [[ -f ${HOME}/.bashrc ]]
 then
  . ${HOME}/.bashrc
 fi
fi


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Re: Command line arguments

2012-11-01 Thread Brian Wilson
  % ${1}, ${2}, etc.  Also, you may want to read up on the getopts 
  command as a % way to process command line arguments. % Technically,
  the {}'s are not needed. You can access them with $1, $2, ... % 
  /path/to/$1.save/dir but not /path/to/$1save/dir you'd need the 
  {} % (i.e. /path/to/${1}save/dir because otherwise the shell would 
  be % looking for 1save as an env variable name.
 
 ... except that environment variables cannot begin with numbers :-)


True, but that won't keep the system from trying to interpret the string as 
a variable and erroring out on something a novice might easily write.

I got in the habbit of always using the {} (even if they aren't absolutely 
necessary) to avoid such issues on general principal.  It can also help keep 
things straight if you want to do something like the following line in a 
script 'VAR=${VAR}${VAR:+, }${VAR2}' in a loop to create a comma-space 
separated string.  The first time through the loop, VAR is NULL and won't 
add anything to the string so only VAR2's value is assigned to VAR.  The 
next time through VAR is defined and will have ${VAR}, ${VAR2} assigned 
back to VAR.  It's faster and cleaner than using an IF statement to do the 
same task.

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