[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta3 released

2023-09-21 Thread John H Palmieri
Suggestions? On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 11:25:02 AM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > Similar problem for me on OS X. I don't understand something: the > dependencies for scipy include meson_python, but that package is not > installed before scipy attempts to build, and fails. Runn

[sage-devel] Remove unnecessary docstring warnings?

2023-09-21 Thread John H Palmieri
When running Sage, if I look at some docststrings by doing foo.bar?, I see at the top WARNING: the enclosing module is marked 'needs sage.graphs', so doctests may not pass. Of course my copy of Sage has (as far as I know!) a working copy of sage.graphs. Should this warning only be printed

[sage-support] Re: How to define module multiplication?

2023-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
e function field. You > may consult the code there. > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 6:08:15 PM UTC+9 Kwankyu wrote: > >> Is you element in the cohomology ring an instance of ModuleElement? >> >> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 8:34:05 AM UTC+9 John H P

[sage-support] How to define module multiplication?

2023-09-19 Thread John H Palmieri
The mod 2 cohomology of a simplicial complex has the structure of a module over the mod 2 Steenrod algebra. I would like to be able to do this in Sage: sage: x = (some element in a cohomology ring) sage: a = (some element of SteenrodAlgebra(2)) sage: a * x I have tried telling Sage

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta3 released

2023-09-17 Thread John H Palmieri
Similar problem for me on OS X. I don't understand something: the dependencies for scipy include meson_python, but that package is not installed before scipy attempts to build, and fails. Running "make meson_python" and then "make scipy" succeeds, as does "make". On Saturday, September 16,

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta2 released

2023-09-11 Thread John H Palmieri
That helped, thank you. On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 8:36:29 AM UTC-7 Gonzalo Tornaría wrote: > Please try: https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/36235 > > On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 2:59:12 AM UTC-3 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> And now I see a similar failure with 10

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta2 released

2023-09-10 Thread John H Palmieri
And now I see a similar failure with 10.2.beta1. It could be the latest OS X upgrade. On Sunday, September 10, 2023 at 10:29:32 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > The Sage library doesn't build for me on two OS X 13.5.2 (+ homebrew) > machines. The tail end of the log: > >

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta2 released

2023-09-10 Thread John H Palmieri
The Sage library doesn't build for me on two OS X 13.5.2 (+ homebrew) machines. The tail end of the log: building 'sage.libs.ecl' extension INFO: C compiler: gcc -Wsign-compare -Wunreachable-code -fno-common -dynamic -DNDEBUG -g -fwrapv -O3 -Wall -isysroot

Re: [sage-devel] Python return types

2023-09-06 Thread John H Palmieri
I tried using mypy, and I also just ran "sage --tox -e pyright", and neither seems to flag the conflict between the signature "def signature(self) -> Integer:" and the output, which is some arithmetic with "len(...)" and hence a Python int. (And both mypy and pyright produce a ton of warnings,

[sage-devel] Python return types

2023-09-06 Thread John H Palmieri
For a while now, Python has allowed return types to be specified in signatures: def f() -> int: It is my understanding that this doesn't actually do any error-checking or type-checking — see https://docs.python.org/3/library/typing.html. So this works without error: def f() -> float:

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.2.beta1 released

2023-09-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On OS X, if I run `./configure && make ptestlong`, I now only see one or two doctest failures (old ones): sage -t --long --random-seed=131365868289497726973344316901453636879 src/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py # Killed due to segmentation fault sage -t --long

[sage-devel] Re: opinions requested on x + y behaviour for polynomials

2023-08-26 Thread John H Palmieri
In principle it seems okay, but to be honest, I don't think I understand Sage's polynomial rings. It seems like anything goes: sage: R. = GF(2)[] sage: S. = R[] sage: S sage: R.0 + S.0 x + x Why am I allowed to construct S? With your proposed changes, what happens in the

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 6:55 PM, Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 3:44 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: And so on. Am I looking in the wrong spot? No but you need to look longer and as I said prices are all over the place. I see resellers

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 3:45 PM, Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I've seen a lot of posts at the EEVblog and it seems I missed possibly the golden age of 16700 LA by a few years price-wise. Also unsure wh

[cctalk] Re: Dec Vax in Simh - VMS Operating system

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroVAX#MicroVAX_3800_and_MicroVAX_3900 John H. Reinhardt On 8/20/2023 3:18 PM, devin davison via cctalk wrote: Hello All, I am working to get my two microvax systems working, I have a couple of microvax 3800 systems. While I am waiting to get the real hardware going, I would like

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 2:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Hello all. I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC QBus/UniBus stuff. Being the way I am I want something with enough

[cctalk] Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
wondering is if there is something specific I should be looking for, or opinions on which LA is more suitable.  Or even if there is a different make of LA to look for. Thanks in advance for your help John H. Reinhardt

Re: [sage-devel] why sagemath creates so many file in TMPDIR and how to prevent this?

2023-08-15 Thread John H Palmieri
For what it's worth, the `alarm` function (provided by the cysignals package) allows for interrupting a command after a given amount of time. sage: alarm? Signature: alarm(seconds) Call signature: alarm(*args, **kwargs) Type: cython_function_or_method String form: File:

[sage-devel] Re: Can we get rid of the "Consider using a block-scoped tag" warning?

2023-08-04 Thread John H Palmieri
> developer's guide - > https://sagemath-tobias.netlify.app/developer/doctesting.html#the-doctest-fixer > > On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:45:21 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> I appreciate the description of the changes in `sage --fixdoctests` in >> the releas

[sage-devel] Re: Can we get rid of the "Consider using a block-scoped tag" warning?

2023-08-04 Thread John H Palmieri
I appreciate the description of the changes in `sage --fixdoctests` in the release tour, but are these features described anywhere in Sage's documentation? I didn't see anything at #35749 or #36024. On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 11:31:25 AM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Thursday, August

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.1.beta6 released

2023-07-18 Thread John H Palmieri
Looks like it's skipping the files with tags at the top like # sage.doctest: optional - sage.rings.finite_rings That is: cardinality.py, ell_number_field.py, heegner.py, hom_frobenius.py, isogeny_class.py, saturation.py. When I run `./sage -t src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/`, it says

[sage-devel] Re: strange error from integrate command with maxima 5.47 and sagemath 10.1 beta 6

2023-07-16 Thread John H Palmieri
I get the same error when evaluating this integral in Sage with its own Maxima. (version 5.46.0). On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 10:30:53 AM UTC-7 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 5:48:00 AM UTC-7 Nasser M. Abbasi wrote: > > After some struggle, build sagemath with maxima

[sage-devel] IPython magic commands, automagic, and conflicts

2023-07-10 Thread John H Palmieri
IPython comes with various "magic" commands, for example "%ls" which runs the shell command "ls". The default mode in Sage is "Automagic is ON, % prefix IS NOT needed for line magics." This means that running "ls" within Sage does the same thing as running "%ls". So far so good. There are,

[cctalk] Re: OLD ftp.compaq.com Mirror?

2023-07-10 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
I just found this the other day, but I see the update date in in 2014 so it may not be of use. http://ftp.zx.net.nz/cgi-bin/archive-mirror There is some info about libraries under the Storageworks folder. https://ftp.zx.net.nz/pub/archive/ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/storageworks/ -- John H

Re: [sage-devel] Graphics files in Sage documentation

2023-06-28 Thread John H Palmieri
nce those are basically the only things I have tinkered > with. > > Can you verify that you do not see any image files in the top level of, > say: > local/share/doc/sage/html/en/reference/manifolds/sage/manifolds ? > > - Marc > > On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 3:23 PM John H

Re: [sage-devel] Graphics files in Sage documentation

2023-06-28 Thread John H Palmieri
By the way, on my machine, local/share/doc/sage are almost identical sizes in 10.1.beta3 and 10.1.beta4. I don't know what explains the difference you're seeing. On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 12:51:38 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > This change should produce only the .svg files: >

Re: [sage-devel] Graphics files in Sage documentation

2023-06-28 Thread John H Palmieri
This change should produce only the .svg files: diff --git a/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py b/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py index 9b6b37480b..b5d6815c76 100644 --- a/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py +++ b/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py @@ -128,7 +128,7 @@ from sage.all_cmdline import * """ plot_html_show_formats

Re: [sage-devel] Graphics files in Sage documentation

2023-06-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I tried making this change (which would affect each ".. PLOT:" directive) but the documentation failed to build: diff --git a/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py b/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py index 9b6b37480b..db33c4b1d6 100644 --- a/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py +++ b/src/sage_docbuild/conf.py @@ -115,7 +115,7

Re: [sage-release] A detail that matters - please help

2023-06-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I think this should be discussed at sage-devel. On Wednesday, June 28, 2023 at 8:49:51 AM UTC-7 vdelecroix wrote: > I agree with Marc that svg is almost always preferable than png for > graphics : it scales and compresses. Thanks for raising the issue. > > Do you have a concrete proposal for

Re: [sage-devel] Re: DeprecationWarning on sagecell in Graph([(0,1)]).vertices()

2023-06-26 Thread John H Palmieri
Just do a global search-and-replace: change ".vertices()" to ".vertices(sort=True, key=id)" or ".vertices(sort=True, key=str)". This is not a new change; the deprecation warning has been in place almost a year, and there was discussion leading up to it. See

[sage-devel] Re: Graph([('A',1)]).adjacency_matrix() raises exception

2023-06-26 Thread John H Palmieri
By the way, I see this error message: TypeError: Vertex labels are not comparable. You must specify an ordering using parameter ``vertices`` Indeed, this works: g.adjacency_matrix(vertices=['A', 1]) On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:32:56 AM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > Please r

[sage-devel] Re: Graph([('A',1)]).adjacency_matrix() raises exception

2023-06-26 Thread John H Palmieri
Please read the help message for adjaceny_matrix. g = Graph([('A',1)]) g.adjacency_matrix? prints, among other things: * "vertices" -- list (default: "None"); the ordering of the vertices defining how they should appear in the matrix. By default, the ordering given by

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Cup Product and Wedge Product of Cochains

2023-06-21 Thread John H Palmieri
to you whatever is unclear in > https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/index.html in this regard. > It's also not hard to set up the corresponding tools on cocalc, if for > one or another reason you can't do the necessary steps on your "real" > computers. > > >

[sage-devel] Re: Cup Product and Wedge Product of Cochains

2023-06-19 Thread John H Palmieri
at 9:28:05 PM UTC-7 Ezra Akresh wrote: > We have provided an example inside this Cocalc notebook: > https://cocalc.com/share/public_paths/9a10e579b445d6b489fe88dd6ad4e4375d4f5fba > > On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 5:50:24 PM UTC-5 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> Can you please pro

[sage-devel] Re: Cup Product and Wedge Product of Cochains

2023-06-16 Thread John H Palmieri
Can you please provide an example where things do not work? Are you talking about manifolds or cell complexes or some other classes? On Friday, June 16, 2023 at 1:14:32 PM UTC-7 Ezra Akresh wrote: > In a recent project, my team and I developed functions for the cup product > and wedge product

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ping - please cast you vote: VOTE: Follow NEP 29: Recommended Python version

2023-05-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote: Dima and Matthias, I completely agree with Nils. Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from SageMath, please? More globally, I propose to stop this discussion completely for a few days. +100 It's time for this

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.1.beta1 released

2023-05-28 Thread John H Palmieri
> shouldn't be there > > On Sunday, May 28, 2023 at 10:10:23 PM UTC+2 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> On OS X: after running `./configure`, I see >> >> % git status >> On branch develop >> Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'. >> &

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.1.beta1 released

2023-05-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On OS X: after running `./configure`, I see % git status On branch develop Your branch is up to date with 'upstream/develop'. Untracked files: (use "git add ..." to include in what will be committed) stdin.info nothing added to commit but untracked files present (use "git add" to track) On

Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.1.beta0 released

2023-05-23 Thread John H Palmieri
There was a problem with Singular, but that should have been fixed in #34851, merged into 10.0.beta0 in February. (https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/34851) On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 1:11:50 PM UTC-7 matthia...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, May 22, 2023 at 11:39:09 PM UTC-7 tdumont

Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.0.rc3 released

2023-05-16 Thread John H Palmieri
Thank you, Guillermo. I should have said: I'm using OS X 13.3.1 on both machines where I'm seeing these failures. I created https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/35646 for this. On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 3:35:15 PM UTC-7 list...@gmail.com wrote: > > This is on Apple Silicon Macs ("M"

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.rc3 released

2023-05-16 Thread John H Palmieri
I see the same failures on a laptop with an M2 chip. On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 12:58:56 PM UTC-7 John H Palmieri wrote: > On an iMac Pro (some Intel chip), the first failure > (rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py) is also related to giac: > > sage: A9=PolynomialRing(QQ,9,

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.rc3 released

2023-05-16 Thread John H Palmieri
# line 17 ## sage: B = gb_giac(I.gens()) # random ## line 18 ## On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 6:05:25 PM UTC-7 Kwankyu Lee wrote: > On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 6:13:03 AM UTC+9 John H Palmieri wrote: > > I consistently see these failures on various OS X machines: >

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.rc3 released

2023-05-15 Thread John H Palmieri
I consistently see these failures on various OS X machines: sage -t --long --random-seed=244618093388694547212515065258622925284 src/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py # 1 doctest failed sage -t --long --random-seed=244618093388694547212515065258622925284

[sage-devel] Re: Can I build Sage via MacPorts under MacOS 10.9?

2023-05-05 Thread John H Palmieri
In principle this should work. See https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/31505 for some relevant information. Others might have direct experience with it. On Friday, May 5, 2023 at 11:24:07 AM UTC-7 Louis Deaett wrote: > I'm interested in Sage development (and contributing some enhancements)

[sage-devel] Simons Software Research Faculty award

2023-05-05 Thread John H Palmieri
Dear US-based Sage developers, The Simons Foundation has announced a Scientific Software Research Faculty Award — https://www.simonsfoundation.org/grant/scientific-software-research-faculty-award/ — and it might be appropriate for Sage development. -- John -- You received this message

Re: [sage-devel] Re: What was/is/will be the purpose of maintaining the Sage distribution?

2023-04-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 2:54:47 PM UTC-7 Isuru Fernando wrote: I guess there are several requirements we need 1. Support for all major OS/architecture combinations 2. Easy to build for rare OS/architecture combinations 3. Possible to install as a non-root user 4. Binaries are available

Re: [sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Sage 10.0.rc0 released

2023-04-26 Thread John H Palmieri
In an attempt to make this less of a religious war and more akin to something like a rational discussion: - The status quo is that we include Python3 and gcc. If you want to argue for their removal, you need to provide evidence that this will not cause problems for people on supported

[sage-devel] Re: Why SR('expression') fail on some but not others?

2023-04-26 Thread John H Palmieri
While sage_eval('sin(x)') does not work, sage_eval('sin(x)', {'x': x}) does work. sage_eval needs to know the context (which variables have been defined, etc.) in which to evaluate. I am not an expert, but sage_eval('sin(x)', locals=locals()) might work pretty reliably, without

Re: [sage-support] what am I missing?

2023-04-13 Thread John H Palmieri
This looks like the issue reported at https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/34233. -- John On Thursday, April 13, 2023 at 2:13:44 PM UTC-7 Fernando Gouvea wrote: > That seems right. Plotting x^6/(1-x)^7 shows the error, but x^5/(1-x)^6 > does not. And > > .9^6/.1^7 = 5.314411e6 >

[sage-devel] Re: bug in realfield when passing float literals

2023-04-10 Thread John H Palmieri
"2*1.1" is not a float literal. Note that RR(2.2) does what you want. On Monday, April 10, 2023 at 1:42:21 PM UTC-7 aw wrote: > sage version: 9.4 > operating system: fedora 35 > > float literals passed to realfield can yield wrong answers > > example: > > RR=RealField(200) > > print(RR(1.1)) >

Re: [sage-support] Testing forked branches

2023-04-08 Thread John H Palmieri
I have found the instructions at https://github.com/sagemath/trac-to-github/blob/master/docs/Migration-Trac-to-Github.md useful for me, as someone used to the old trac interface. On Saturday, April 8, 2023 at 1:23:06 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote: > > Thanks Dima and Drew. > > I had the very same

[sage-support] Re: Error building 9.8 on Ubuntu 23.04

2023-04-07 Thread John H Palmieri
Some recent versions of Singular don't seem to work with Sage. You could try "make distclean" (to start over) and "./configure --with-system-singular=no" to force Sage to build its own Singular. Then "make". On Friday, April 7, 2023 at 2:22:20 PM UTC-7 Eric Majzoub wrote: > Following the

Re: [sage-support] How to use Gap interface for permutation groups?

2023-04-04 Thread John H Palmieri
In lengthy code, you could start with a line like OnSets = libgap.OnSets and then in the rest of the code, you could do `g.Stabilizer([1,2], OnSets)`. That is, predefine whatever you want from libgap, giving each item a meaningful name, and then use that name in the rest of the code. On

[sage-devel] git question/request

2023-03-29 Thread John H Palmieri
Would it be a good idea for Sage tarballs, at least the development versions, to come with `upstream` defined already? With a fresh 10.0.beta6 tarball: % git remote -v trac https://github.com/sagemath/sagetrac-mirror.git (fetch) trac ssh://g...@trac.sagemath.org:/sage.git (push) Should

Re: [sage-devel] Breakage on OS X

2023-03-28 Thread John H Palmieri
they went through with > > make -j1 > > The usual macOS parallel docbuilder blues, it seems. > > > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2023, 19:35 John H Palmieri, wrote: >> >> I ran "brew upgrade" recently on two different Macs, one Intel and one Apple

[sage-devel] Breakage on OS X

2023-03-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I ran "brew upgrade" recently on two different Macs, one Intel and one Apple Silicon, and now the Sage documentation fails to build: [hyperboli] from

Re: [sage-support] computig all possible determinants of submatrices of a given matrix

2023-03-21 Thread John H Palmieri
>From the ask.sagemath.org answers: [m.minors(k) for k in range(5)] is pretty close to what you want: you just have to flatten the list. On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 3:09:07 PM UTC-7 William Stein wrote: > This is > > >

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.beta4 released

2023-03-15 Thread John H Palmieri
Thank you for the reference. On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 3:25:16 PM UTC-7 list...@gmail.com wrote: > > This is mentioned here: > https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/35273 > > Guillermo > > On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 23:09, John H Palmieri wrote: > >> OS X wi

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.beta4 released

2023-03-14 Thread John H Palmieri
OS X with homebrew packages installed and very recently updated. I'm seeing some doctest failures: errors with mathematically equivalent answers but not in the correct form. This is for the following files: sage -t --long --random-seed=247900869917442955840282482235981848821

Re: [sage-support] Equivalent System Packages command for homebrew?

2023-03-14 Thread John H Palmieri
See also the installation manual: https://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/source.html#macos-package-installation. On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 3:45:17 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > Assuming you are on macOS with homebrew installed, get Sage source and run > ./bootstrap > > and then >

[sage-release] Re: Sage 10.0.beta3 released

2023-03-07 Thread John H Palmieri
It looks like the graph failures have been reported at https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/35157. Emanuel, are those the ones you're seeing? On Sunday, March 5, 2023 at 8:20:30 AM UTC-8 emanuel.c...@gmail.com wrote: > The resulting 10.0.beta3 passes ptestlong witrh the two permanent >

[sage-devel] Re: What happened to Mathematica magics ?

2023-03-01 Thread John H Palmieri
e stack... > > Le mercredi 1 mars 2023 à 04:24:36 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit : > >> I think it's due to https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/34547. That >> ticket was created because with the old behavior in Sage, instance of >> Octave(), Mathematica(), etc. were cre

[sage-devel] Re: What happened to Mathematica magics ?

2023-02-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I think it's due to https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/34547. That ticket was created because with the old behavior in Sage, instance of Octave(), Mathematica(), etc. were created when Sage started up, regardless of the availability of the corresponding software. Once those became lazy

Re: [sage-support] sagemathlib only building single-threaded

2023-02-12 Thread John H Palmieri
I have been setting MAKE and MAKEFLAGS for a long time, and I have not seen any difference in the behavior of "make build". If I unset MAKE and MAKEFLAGS, then it takes longer to build sagelib, as it should. On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 11:44:43 AM UTC-8 Nils Bruin wrote: > On Saturday,

Re: [sage-support] Sagemath binary is old and fails to install properly on Ubuntu 20.04.5 LTS

2023-02-08 Thread John H Palmieri
For what it's worth, every now and then I create a virtual linux machine and build Sage from source using the instructions in the installation guide, including installing the recommended prerequisite software. It typically goes smoothly, and it's definitely worth trying on Ubuntu. (I've done

Re: [R-SIG-Mac] R-SIG-Mac Digest, Vol 239, Issue 4

2023-02-07 Thread John H Maindonald
An ‘interesting’ aside is that in Monterey (12.6.2), a blank window appears when I click on ‘PDF’ from within the RStudio help system. Within the R GUI, there is not a problem. In either case, typing vignette('concordance', package='survival’) in the command line window works fine. Kevin, does

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.rc0 released

2023-02-02 Thread John H Palmieri
Some people have had an issue with Singular: the system version is too new. Using "./configure --with-system-singular=no" (probably after "make distclean"?) would help, if that's the problem. There is an upgrade ticket for Singular that has had many isses, but last time I checked, it had a

[sage-devel] Re: MIgration to GitHub: Heads-up on org invitations

2023-02-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Can we be proactive and request membership somewhere through GitHub, or do we have to receive an invitation? On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 3:57:51 PM UTC-8 Andrew wrote: > Thank you for all of your work on this! > Andrew > > On Thursday, 2 February 2023 at 10:10:01 am UTC+11 Matthias Koeppe

Re: URGENT: Re: [sage-devel] Jan 30 to Feb 4: Trac downtime, migration to GitHub

2023-01-31 Thread John H Palmieri
Is there going to be one more round of (presumably automatic) additions to trac, providing a link from each trac ticket to the corresponding GH issue? On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:06:34 PM UTC-8 dim...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 9:56 PM Kwankyu Lee wrote: > > > > On

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-24 Thread John H Palmieri
Patch available: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34935 On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 2:47:15 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > I think Matthias found the answer in the emacs-lisp code (discussion at > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34547#comment:56). > > On Tuesday, January 2

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-24 Thread John H Palmieri
effort to > understand and *comment* it might be worthwile… > ​ > Le mardi 24 janvier 2023 à 23:15:40 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit : > >> For reasons I really don't understand, removing these lines from >> sage.interfaces.all seem to have caused this: >> >> -interf

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-24 Thread John H Palmieri
ry 2023 at 17:47:29 UTC+1 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> This was one of my guesses because that ticket could have changed global >> behavior of Sage by changing some imports — most of the tickets made more >> focused changes. Can you start with 9.8.beta6 and just apply some of

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-24 Thread John H Palmieri
4 January 2023 at 10:21:11 UTC+1 axio...@yahoo.de wrote: >> >>> Thank you for this suggestion! I will try with 9.8.beta6 + #33842. I >>> hope that all dependencies are in the branch. >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> On Monday, 23 January 2023 at 21:32:

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-23 Thread John H Palmieri
sue indeed. But losing the Emacs interface >>> is a big hit for me, so I revert to 9.6.beta6 for now. >>> >>> Thank you nevertheless ! >>> >>> Le vendredi 20 janvier 2023 à 22:58:53 UTC+1, John H Palmieri a écrit : >>> >>>> In the hope

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-20 Thread John H Palmieri
In the hopes that this will fix it, I opened https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34927. On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 1:46:02 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > Does this change fix the fricas.py failure? > > diff --git a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.p

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-20 Thread John H Palmieri
Does this change fix the fricas.py failure? diff --git a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py index dc2ce71f26..ceba6f90dc 100644 --- a/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py +++ b/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py @@ -891,7 +891,7 @@ http://fricas.sourceforge.net. """

[sage-support] Re: mathematica_console() command not working

2023-01-20 Thread John H Palmieri
All of the *_console commands should be fixed by ticket #34547. On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 11:45:59 PM UTC-8 trevor...@gmail.com wrote: > Something similar seems to happen with `gap_console()` and `gap.console()`. > > On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:22:23 PM UTC-6 John H

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta7 released

2023-01-20 Thread John H Palmieri
If you have installed Singular via homebrew, it may be too new for Sage to handle properly. Try "./configure --with-system-singular=no". (I think this would be fixed by https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34851.) -- John On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:24:52 AM UTC-8 david@gmail.com wrote:

[sage-support] Re: mathematica_console() command not working

2023-01-19 Thread John H Palmieri
"mathematica_console()" is available (or at least it should be) when using Sage from the command-line but not from the notebook. There was a bug, now fixed in https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34547, that meant that this command was not available when it should have been. On Thursday, January

[sage-devel] Re: Final call for GitHub user names

2023-01-18 Thread John H Palmieri
"palmieri" and "palmiery" and "jpalmieri" appear (probably from mistakes with cc entries), and they should all be changed to match my correct trac name "jhpalmieri" (same as my github id). On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 6:14:16 PM UTC-8 Kwankyu Lee wrote: > Dear readers, > > Attached

[sage-support] Re: Cannot build 9.7 on Debian Sid

2023-01-13 Thread John H Palmieri
It may be (as pointed out on a similar thread in the group sage-devel) that some of the Debian packages have versions that are too new to be used with Sage. You could tell Sage to build its own Python, its own Gap, perhaps its own Singular (if the system one is causing problems): ./configure

[sage-support] Re: Matrix_generic_dense.det() is quite slow compared to Numpy

2023-01-08 Thread John H Palmieri
any space to improve the computation of MPFR which is used by > RealField? > > John H Palmieri 在 2023年1月6日 星期五凌晨3:01:37 [UTC+8] 的信中寫道: > >> One way to speed it up might be to work with RDF or QQ or RLF. The >> documentation for the generic determinant method says, "Note

[sage-support] Re: Matrix_generic_dense.det() is quite slow compared to Numpy

2023-01-05 Thread John H Palmieri
One way to speed it up might be to work with RDF or QQ or RLF. The documentation for the generic determinant method says, "Note that for matrices over most rings, more sophisticated algorithms can be used." sage: %time ones_matrix(RDF, 600, 600).determinant() CPU times: user 78.6 ms, sys: 7.6

[sage-support] Re: Sage 9.8 build error

2023-01-04 Thread John H Palmieri
ill unable to proceed. Any idea how > to fix the issue? I have attached logs, config.log, and a text file with > the 4 packages with errors. > > Thank you! > Alex > > On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 11:35:39 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> Many of the errors are discus

[sage-support] Re: Sage 9.8 build error

2023-01-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Maybe you also need to do "make flit_core" before "make typing_extension". On Wednesday, January 4, 2023 at 11:35:39 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > Many of the errors are discussed at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34838. > You can probably avoid those by runni

[sage-support] Re: Sage 9.8 build error

2023-01-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Many of the errors are discussed at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34838. You can probably avoid those by running "make typing_extensions" before running "make". The most recent error seems to be for sagelib: ld: library not found for -lopenblas I assume that you followed the directions

[sage-devel] Re: Determinant of a SR matrix substituted by a floating number is not numerical stable

2023-01-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Your current code has fragments like this: weighted_load = load_obj(f'./sym.sobj') print(f'weighted == weighted_load {weighted == weighted_load}') save(weighted, f'./sym.sobj') In particular, "sym.sobj" is read before it is written, so 'weighted_load' will be None. If I put the "save" lines

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta6 released

2022-12-22 Thread John H Palmieri
parallel docbuilding code...) > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 6:06 AM John H Palmieri > wrote: > > > > And it would be great if we could fix it, but I don't know what the > problem is. I've seen it on both Apple Silicon and on Apple Intel. On the > Intel machine, when runn

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta6 released

2022-12-21 Thread John H Palmieri
December 21, 2022 at 9:37:48 PM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > I've seen this before, and I haven't been able to figure out what triggers > it. It seems random: try "make doc-clean doc-uninstall && make" and it > might succeed after a few attempts. > > On We

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta6 released

2022-12-21 Thread John H Palmieri
I've seen this before, and I haven't been able to figure out what triggers it. It seems random: try "make doc-clean doc-uninstall && make" and it might succeed after a few attempts. On Wednesday, December 21, 2022 at 3:13:10 PM UTC-8 list...@gmail.com wrote: > > Help needed. > > This is on

[sage-devel] Re: SageMath 9.8 beta 4: Error building a wheel for scipy-1.9.2

2022-11-26 Thread John H Palmieri
What OS? I'm guessing Mac OS, in which case you need the fix at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34658, or build 9.8.beta3 or wait for a later beta release that includes the fix. -- John On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 12:40:30 PM UTC-8 beingn...@gmail.com wrote: > Dear SageMath, > >

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta4 released

2022-11-23 Thread John H Palmieri
, November 22, 2022 at 7:36:28 PM UTC-8 Kenji Iohara wrote: > >> With my Mac OS 13.0.1, with Intel Core i5, and several packages with >> Homebrew, I have a problem with downloading >> >> >> * package: numpy-1.23.5 >> last build time: Nov 23 04:33 &

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta4 released

2022-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
th.org/ticket/34658, please test > > > On Tuesday, November 22, 2022 at 10:34:52 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri wrote: > >> scipy fails to build for me (OS X 13.0.1, Intel, with various homebrew >> packages, Sage built from a new tarball): >> >> Successfu

[sage-release] Re: Sage 9.8.beta4 released

2022-11-22 Thread John H Palmieri
scipy fails to build for me (OS X 13.0.1, Intel, with various homebrew packages, Sage built from a new tarball): Successfully built scipy WARNING: Skipping scipy as it is not installed. Using pip 22.3 from

Re: [sage-support] Re: Listing elements of a finite ring.

2022-11-20 Thread John H Palmieri
You can also do `list(S)`, or depending on what you're doing it might be better to iterate over its elements, as Emmanuel wrote: `for u in S...` On Sunday, November 20, 2022 at 8:54:25 AM UTC-8 gauri...@gmail.com wrote: > Oh wow! That was easy! > > Thanks so much! > G > > On Sun, Nov 20,

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta3 released

2022-11-11 Thread John H Palmieri
Please check whether https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34741 fixes the problem. On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 2:47:41 PM UTC-7 Kenji Iohara wrote: > It might be better adding test.log > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-release" group. To

[sage-devel] Re: The documentation built for #34730 needs your attention for checking

2022-11-09 Thread John H Palmieri
I think the use of Tachyon instead of Jmol must be particular to that setup. When I build the docs with #34730, it looks the same as in the develop branch, same as on sagemath.org. On Wednesday, November 9, 2022 at 1:24:38 PM UTC-8 Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > PS: the loss of text3d is

[cctalk] Shipping help in Brunswick, GA

2022-11-06 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
Brunswick that might want it for themselves? Ebay listing  https://www.ebay.com/itm/334615827742? -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: [sage-release] Sage 9.8.beta3 released

2022-11-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Are these failures because of warning messages like ld: warning: dylib (...) was built for newer macOS version (13.0) than being linked (12.3) On Friday, November 4, 2022 at 5:08:27 AM UTC-7 Kenji Iohara wrote: > I have recompiled it with Mac OS 13.0, with Intel Core i5, Xcode 14.1 with

[cctalk] Re: Is this a RIFA (uV3100-10 PSU)?

2022-10-23 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
markings on the other side, on the top was only the X2 and the value. You might have to remove it just to be certain that it is a RIFA, but the top lettering and the overall look point in that direction. -- John H. Reinhardt

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