Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

2018-04-15 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 4/15/2018 8:42 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: Other names via cctalk Ed Sharpesteve shumaker *Noel Chiappa* *John H. Reinhardt* First of, I am sorry for any additional noise on CCTALK. I will find out who replied first on each of the group of equipment. To keep the noise down if you

Re: To be scrapped in as little as 2 months

2018-04-15 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 4/15/2018 10:26 AM, Pete Lancashire via cctalk wrote: https://photos.app.goo.gl/eYVej7Sg7GSk9Mv72 On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:16 AM, Alan Perry via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Do you know the size/models of the Alpha systems? I want to make sure they will fit in my car. alan On

[Evolution] 3.28.1-1 Ubuntu 18.04 -- Cannot paste text into message you are writing

2018-04-11 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
Cannot paste into message. Cannot add signature to message. When started from CLI, get errors dealing with WebKitWebView and webkit_editor. John ___ evolution-list mailing list evolution-list@gnome.org To change your list options or unsubscribe,

[Evolution] Ubuntu 18.04 upgrade from 16.04 LTS

2018-04-11 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
After backing up evolution running under 16.04 LTS, I did an in-place upgrade to the latest beta of 18.04 LTS. Evolution 3.28.1-1 came up without any need for special commands, etc. I did not need to use the backup file. John___ evolution-list

Re: [Evolution] Compiling on Ubuntu 16.04 LTS?

2018-04-10 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
No need to compile for 16.04 LTS.  Evolution 3.20.5 available for download from gnome3-team and gnome3-team staging.  Add the repositories (gnome3-team first) and your are in business.   John -Original Message- From: Bjørn T Johansen To: evolution-list@gnome.org

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-04-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, April 3, 2018 at 2:09:17 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: > > > > > On 4/04/2018, at 02:34, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-04-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 9:25:56 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: > > > > > On 2/04/2018, at 16:27, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 1:16:57 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-04-02 Thread John H Palmieri
at 08:03, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > make distclean > > and > > make ? > > > > On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 8:46:41 PM UTC+1, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On an OS X machine, I just did a minor upgrade on the operating sys

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-04-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 1:16:57 PM UTC-7, François Bissey wrote: > > > > > On 2/04/2018, at 03:48, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 2:06:37 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > &

[sage-devel] Re: Pointers needed

2018-04-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 4:08:14 PM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: > > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 3:43:30 PM UTC-7, Simon King wrote: >> >> Also: Have there been changes in how to run optional tests? I tried sage >> -t --optional=meataxe, but then Sage was skipping all compulsory tests >>

[sage-devel] Re: Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-04-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 2:06:37 AM UTC-7, Volker Braun wrote: > > On Sunday, April 1, 2018 at 9:01:17 AM UTC+2, Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> >> - when I do an incremental upgrade, I do not see these failures. >> - when I do 'make distclean; make ptestlong', I see them (with >> 8.2.beta8 or

[sage-devel] Newest Xcode is causing doctest failures

2018-03-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On an OS X machine, I just did a minor upgrade on the operating system (to 10.13.4) and also Xcode and the command line tools. Now I am getting doctest failures: sage -t --long src/sage/rings/polynomial/multi_polynomial_ideal.py # 1 doctest failed sage -t --long

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2.beta8 released

2018-03-28 Thread John H Palmieri
I'm curious: why is the 8.2.beta8 tarball so much smaller than previous versions? (According to http://files.sagemath.org/devel/index.html, 8.2beta8 is about 530MB, while 8.2.beta7 was just under 600MB.) John On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: > > As

[RBW] David Lance Goines Riv Bike Poster

2018-03-23 Thread John H.
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[sage-support] Re: [sage-cell] Where Oh Where is my Divide By Zero Error?

2018-03-20 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 7:29:30 PM UTC-7, A. Jorge Garcia wrote: > > Thanks! > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018, 10:27 PM Andrey Novoseltsev > wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Jorge Garcia > > wrote: >> > Dear Hive Mind: >> > >> > Why is there

Re: [sage-devel] Make JupyterLab a standard package

2018-03-13 Thread John H Palmieri
I feel like we need another class of package: "pending" (or perhaps some other name) = those which we propose to make standard soon. Most optional packages are not intended to be converted to standard, as far as I can tell, so "optional" isn't the appropriate tag in this case. John On

Re: Unicode 11.0 and 12.0 Cover Design Art

2018-03-13 Thread John H. Jenkins via Unicode
Maybe we should just throw in the towel and put "DON'T PANIC" on the cover in big, friendly letters. 

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2.beta8 released

2018-03-12 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 7:17:24 PM UTC-8, John H Palmieri wrote: > > On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: >> >> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git >> branch. Alternatively, the self-conta

Re: [Swlfest] Emergency Power

2018-03-11 Thread John H. Carver Jr.
*Ed, I use the simple poor man's method of making Faraday cages. A dead microwave oven is one and the other is a metal garbage can lined with foam, a tight lid and metal tape around the joint when the lid is in place. Both were hauled into town and a friend who is cellphone crazy helped

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.2.beta8 released

2018-03-10 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, March 10, 2018 at 4:18:24 PM UTC-8, Volker Braun wrote: > > As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git > branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at > http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html > > 9bf9f05f1f (tag: 8.2.beta8,

[imp] HTML email replies badly formatted

2018-03-07 Thread John H. Bennett III
Hello all, I get a lot of html email, and I have my preference set to reply using the same format as the original message.  When I go to reply to these emails with imp, the reply is badly formatted.  There are multiple line breaks everywhere within the response, and I have to actually

[sage-support] Re: Error compiling : patch-2-7-5

2018-03-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, March 2, 2018 at 2:51:17 AM UTC-8, Viviane Pons wrote: > > Dear all, > > I already have a sage installed from binaries (from the debian package) > and I'm trying to compile a dev version from source. > > I'm getting this error (log attached) after less than 1 minute. Does > someone

Re: [sage-devel] OS X (or BSD) testers needed

2018-02-22 Thread John H Palmieri
$ uname -a Darwin John-iMac-2017.local 17.4.0 Darwin Kernel Version 17.4.0: Sun Dec 17 09:19:54 PST 2017; root:xnu-4570.41.2~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 $ gcc forksigaltstack.c -o forksigaltstack && ./forksigaltstack status = 4 On Thursday, February 22, 2018 at 7:24:00 AM UTC-8, David Roe wrote:

Re: [Simh] EXT : Alpha ES40 emulator

2018-02-19 Thread John H. Reinhardt
ha emulation as it does PDP and VAX. John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: [Simh] best way to scan 172 column fanfold 80s printout?

2018-02-13 Thread John H. Reinhardt
. John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 2/8/2018 9:56 AM, John H. Reinhardt via cctalk wrote: On 2/8/2018 9:39 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Feb 8, 2018, at 5:28 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk <cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: On 02/07/2018 10:30 PM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Feb 7, 2018, at 7:22 PM, Grant Tayl

Re: OpenVMS software repositories?

2018-02-08 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
ee. They have had a couple server hiccups in the last year though. I use it via Thunderbird on my Mac without too much trouble. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: [Simh] RSTS/E Reminiscing

2018-02-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt
On 2/7/2018 1:42 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2018-02-07 18:01, John H. Reinhardt wrote: With all the recent discussion of BASIC games and such, I have been reminiscing about my first days introduced to RSTS/E and the PDP-11 at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology's Camp Retupmoc in summer

[Simh] RSTS/E Reminiscing

2018-02-07 Thread John H. Reinhardt
to have it to look at to see how things were done. -- John H. Reinhardt ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

Re: Support for Extension F

2018-01-31 Thread John H. Jenkins via Unicode
macOS (and iOS, for that matter) fully support Extension F provided fonts are availble. I'm not aware of any work that Apple has done to its fonts for Extension F support. Indeed, I'm not aware of any publically available fonts for Extension F but would gladly install one myself if it's

[sage-devel] Re: sagemath problems

2018-01-30 Thread John H Palmieri
Yes, can someone please look into this? zulip hasn't worked in a few days now. John On Sunday, January 28, 2018 at 11:51:39 PM UTC-8, Ralf Stephan wrote: > > Hello, > processing of ticket actions is quite slow and zulip.sagemath.org gives a > 502, both since at least yesterday. Can someone

[sage-devel] Re: TypeError: unsupported operand parent(s) for *: <(1,3)(2,4), (1,4,3,2)> and S4

2018-01-29 Thread John H Palmieri
I'm not sure if Sage can always tell, if you multiply an element of a subgroup by an element of the larger group, that the result should make sense and lie in the larger group. You should be able to fix this by forcing Sage to consider the subgroup element as lying in the larger group: rather

[sage-support] Re: I tried plotting the recent equation of sin and it does not let me execute it

2018-01-26 Thread John H Palmieri
If you tried "-4sin(2x-pi)", maybe try instead "-4*sin(2*x-pi)" -- include * for multiplication. On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:11:51 PM UTC-8, benjamin gonzalezjr wrote: > > Good afternoon, my name is Benjamin Gonzalez Jr. > I need help on how to graph -4sin(2x-pi) on cocalc/sage. I tried >

Re: Emoji for major planets at least?

2018-01-18 Thread John H. Jenkins via Unicode
Well, you can go with Venus = white planet, Mercury = grey planet, Uranus = greenish planet, Neptune = bluish planet, Jupiter = striped planet. As you say, though, without a context, none of them convey much and Venus, at least, would just be a circle. Plus there's the question of the context

[sage-devel] Re: request to build/test mac-app on OSX 10.13

2017-12-13 Thread John H Palmieri
I tried this. First I build sage, then did $ cd src/mac-app $ make This led to an apparent error: mkdir -p sage-8.1-OSX_10.13.2_x86_64 make: *** No rule to make target `sage-8.1-OSX_10.13.2_x86_64/SageMath-8.1.app/Contents/Resources/sage/sage', needed by `sage_symlink'. Stop. make: ***

[sage-devel] Re: [min_spanning_tree] It is not operating correctly

2017-12-04 Thread John H Palmieri
Can you explain more fully what is wrong? The output looks like a spanning tree to me. A question and a comment: what do you mean by "the result is 193"? Also, according to the documentation, the "starting_vertex" option is only available for the algorithms "Prim_fringe" and "Prim_edge". On

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
I think it is much more important to fix bugs and to add new functionality to Sage. Regarding consistency: "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" -- Ralph Waldo Emerson "Consistency is contrary to nature, contrary to life. The only completely consistent people are the dead."

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-12-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, December 1, 2017 at 6:43:05 AM UTC-8, kcrisman wrote: > > > > On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 6:50:09 PM UTC-5, Matthew Schroeder > wrote: >> >> Dear John, >> >> Thank you for your interest in resolving this problem. >> >> To answer your question I am referring to >>

[sage-devel] Re: Issue with quick start

2017-11-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 12:22:05 PM UTC-8, Matthew Schroeder wrote: > > i did some research. Please see the link: Saying "Maths" is wrong > > Turns out this is a problem that should be fixed. > I assume you're joking. With this

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.1.rc0 released

2017-11-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 10:40:22 AM UTC-8, Simon King wrote: > > Hi John, > > On 2017-11-17, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > wrote: > >> And WHY that change was made! > >> > > > > If it takes a while to build the documentat

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.1.rc0 released

2017-11-17 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, November 17, 2017 at 6:37:54 AM UTC-8, Simon King wrote: > > On 2017-11-17, Kwankyu Lee wrote: > > Ah, I didn't know that. This (building the documentation is no longer > the > > last step) sounds a big change to me. I wonder when that change was > made. > >

Re: Plane-2-only string

2017-11-13 Thread John H. Jenkins via Unicode
Ʃ ̥ ́ Ӽ Մ ݭ ݹ ந ன ோ ௦ ௽ ఋ ల ు ూ ృ ౓ ౘ ౥ ౷ ౸ ಜ ೏ ೕ ೖ ക ര േ ൈ ൉ ൩ ൯ ർ ൾ ൿ ග ට ඲ ฉ That is an example of forty Cantonese-specific characters which are not obscene (that I'm aware of) from Extension B. For the curious, I've appended at the bottom the full list of 280 for all of Plane 2 which I was

Re: [sage-release] Re: Sage 8.1.rc0 released

2017-11-09 Thread John H Palmieri
are testing. Can anyone else reproduce this? On Thursday, November 9, 2017 at 2:44:43 PM UTC-8, François Bissey wrote: > > Smells like https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23742 > > > On 10/11/2017, at 11:31, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.1.rc0 released

2017-11-09 Thread John H Palmieri
WIth OS X 10.12.6, Xcode (and the same happens when building with clang, #12426): sage -t --long --warn-long 64.0 src/sage/matrix/matrix_mod2_dense.pyx # Killed due to kill signal ** Tests run before process (pid=12556)

Authentication using http

2017-10-31 Thread Thompson, John H. (GSFC-606.2)[PATUXENT TECHNOLOGY PARTNERS]
Will storing the allowed connections in LDAP work with HTTP header authentication"? From reading about LDAP, it seems the answer is “no” "if the bind attempt is successful, the set of available Guacamole connections is queried from the LDAP directory by executing an LDAP query as the bound user.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-23 Thread John H Palmieri
) in favor of another option : 10 > >> people > > > > > > No : make that 7 people... > > > >> > >> David Joyner > >> Michael Orlitzky > >> Nicolas M Thiéry > >> Dr David Kirby > >> Thierry (sag

[sage-support] Re: which browser

2017-10-20 Thread John H Palmieri
Have you tried setting the BROWSER environment variable? If that doesn't work, what about SAGE_BROWSER? John On Friday, October 20, 2017 at 7:38:58 AM UTC-7, John Cremona wrote: > > On 20 October 2017 at 15:34, John Cremona > wrote: > > I am running Sage on a linux

Re: [imp] Trouble viewing a specific email in Imp

2017-10-20 Thread John H. Bennett III
Quoting Jan Schneider <j...@horde.org>: Zitat von John H. Bennett III <benne...@thebennetthome.com>: Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <benne...@thebennetthome.com>: Quoting Jan Schneider <j...@horde.org>: Zitat von John H. Bennett III <benne...@thebennet

Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: inclusion of OpenSSL in Sage

2017-10-19 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 2:17:10 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > the 1-click openssl install image for OSX is called Xcode, and one can go > for a long lunch while waiting for it to finish, even on a fast network... > > Apple should pick up the bill for these lunches, and much more,

Re: [imp] Trouble viewing a specific email in Imp

2017-10-17 Thread John H. Bennett III
Quoting "John H. Bennett III" <benne...@thebennetthome.com>: Quoting Jan Schneider <j...@horde.org>: Zitat von John H. Bennett III <benne...@thebennetthome.com>: Hello all, I am having an issue viewing all of the content in a particular email. I sent info of

[sage-support] Re: Problem installing sage on High Sierra (Mac OS 10.13)

2017-10-16 Thread John H Palmieri
his point, I don't even understand what the error is... Any > suggestions? > > > On Monday, October 16, 2017 at 5:11:15 PM UTC-4, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> You have at least two choices. For both, start by downloading ( >> http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.ht

[sage-support] Re: Problem installing sage on High Sierra (Mac OS 10.13)

2017-10-16 Thread John H Palmieri
You have at least two choices. For both, start by downloading (http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.html) and unpacking sage-8.0.tar.gz wherever you plan to build it. Choice 1: install git-trac-config: see

[sage-devel] Re: python3 status

2017-10-13 Thread John H Palmieri
That's great! Thank you for all of your work on this. John On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 8:56:11 AM UTC-7, Frédéric Chapoton wrote: > > Hello, > > I have reached this point with the ugly python3 experimental branch > "public/python3-experiment-8.1.b7": > > >

Re: [imp] Trouble viewing a specific email in Imp

2017-10-12 Thread John H. Bennett III
Quoting Jan Schneider <j...@horde.org>: Zitat von John H. Bennett III <benne...@thebennetthome.com>: Hello all, I am having an issue viewing all of the content in a particular email. I sent info offlist, as the email had some personal stuff in it, but the email was viewed

[imp] Trouble viewing a specific email in Imp

2017-10-11 Thread John H. Bennett III
Hello all, I am having an issue viewing all of the content in a particular email. I sent info offlist, as the email had some personal stuff in it, but the email was viewed fine, so I'm asking the larger list for any assistance. The email has some text that is not being displayed in

[sage-support] Re: Problem installing sage on High Sierra (Mac OS 10.13)

2017-10-08 Thread John H Palmieri
Also, if you have problems with the curl package, try https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23991 On Sunday, October 8, 2017 at 10:02:36 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > Are you trying to install Sage 6.2 (as your log seems to indicate)? That > is extremely old. Try with a fre

[sage-support] Re: Problem installing sage on High Sierra (Mac OS 10.13)

2017-10-08 Thread John H Palmieri
Are you trying to install Sage 6.2 (as your log seems to indicate)? That is extremely old. Try with a fresh source installation: either http://www.sagemath.org/download-source.html for stable source or http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html for the latest development version. Also, do

[Elecraft] KX3 SSB ALC Mic Gain - a new problem

2017-10-08 Thread John H Farmer
your interest. 73, John VK7JB -Original Message- From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com] Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2017 11:09 To: Dr John H Farmer <opensile...@bigpond.com>; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 SSB ALC Mic Gain - a new problem John, Try ba

[Elecraft] KX3 SSB ALC Mic Gain - a new problem

2017-10-07 Thread Dr John H Farmer
Hi All, Apologies if this question posts twice - my attempt yesterday was unsuccessful, so here goes again. I've been running KX3 #2511 for several years on SSB with the MH3 mic and with settings: Mic gain 35 and compression 12. It's worked flawlessly and that combination of settings has

[sage-devel] Request reviewers for trac 23898, update our version of GCC

2017-10-05 Thread John H Palmieri
At https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23898, I propose updating to GCC 7.2.0. This seems to fix the problem with building Sage with Apple's latest version of Xcode (there is also separate work going to let Sage build with clang with the latest Xcode: #12426 and #23922). I have tested this on a

[sage-devel] Re: sage / gcc build failed on macOS High Sierra

2017-10-03 Thread John H Palmieri
The problem with gcc has been reported here: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23898. No one seems to have made any progress on it. In the meantime, I've been able to build Sage using https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/12426 and https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23922. (In my case this is with

[sage-devel] Re: doctesting tab completion

2017-09-28 Thread John H Palmieri
Is there a typo? Should the line causing the crash start with "from"? (Same question on the trac ticket.) On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 8:55:16 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > How does one write a doctest for tab completion on the command line? > I don't care for the output, I just

Re: [sage-devel] let's make FriCAS optional

2017-09-27 Thread John H Palmieri
On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 at 10:40:36 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > > On 2017-09-27 16:10, Vincent Delecroix wrote: > > Not sufficient: the package has to be useful for Sage and used in > > Sage... emacs is unlikely to become an optional package even if it > > satisfies the above

Re: [sage-devel] Is trac down?

2017-09-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, September 26, 2017 at 1:56:39 PM UTC-7, mforets wrote: > > > > El martes, 26 de septiembre de 2017, 22:38:23 (UTC+2), Samuel Lelievre > escribió: >> >> Tue2017-09-26 10:29:17 UTC, Maarten Derickx: >> > Seems to be back up again. >> >> Not sure if it's related but when I click on the

Re: [sage-devel] Consider not upgrading to Xcode 9.0

2017-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
Trying to build gfortran yields the same error as reported at https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23898. John On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 3:08:05 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: > > I successfully built with the current version (not the updated one) of > eclib plus the

Re: [sage-devel] Consider not upgrading to Xcode 9.0

2017-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
problem that was spotted > > before. It proved effective in this instance. So I will proceed with > trying > > to build the rest of sage. > > > > François > > > >> On 21/09/2017, at 04:05, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: >

[sage-devel] Re: Consider not upgrading to Xcode 9.0

2017-09-20 Thread John H Palmieri
a big problem, some rather standard C++ > template issue to be tweaked... > > On Wednesday, September 20, 2017 at 12:50:32 AM UTC+1, John H Palmieri > wrote: >> >> I just upgraded an OS X box to Xcode 9.0, and now Sage doesn't build: >> >> - with a fresh

[sage-devel] Consider not upgrading to Xcode 9.0

2017-09-19 Thread John H Palmieri
I just upgraded an OS X box to Xcode 9.0, and now Sage doesn't build: - with a fresh Sage 8.1.beta5 tarball, gcc doesn't build: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/include/c++/v1/functional:1398:2: error: no member named 'fancy_abort' in namespace

[sage-devel] Signs and graded algebras

2017-09-18 Thread John H Palmieri
I have a graded algebra A over a field k, and I would like the following behavior: when I multiply homogeneous elements of the tensor square (A tensor A), I want signs to appear, as in: (a tensor b) (c tensor d) = (-1)^(deg b deg c) (ac tensor bd) You could ask for the same when multiplying

Free for pick up - West Chester, Ohio (Cincinnati area) - DEC/Compaq/HP

2017-09-18 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
I'm moving from SW Ohio to the Dallas - Fort Worth area. I have a storage unit and basement full of stuff I can't take and I'm looking for someone that wants it. Hopefully in one big load but if I have to I will piece it out. There are two deadlines - one is impossibly close. I'm leaving

Re: [sage-devel] Trouble while compiling sage---- compiling ends during plot3d

2017-09-16 Thread John H Palmieri
By the way, if the problem can be reduced to building the documentation (that is, if "make build" succeeds but "make" does not), another option would be to try "make doc-html-no-plot", or essentially equivalently do export SAGE_DOCBUILD_OPTS+=' --no-plot' make It is possible that the

Re: [Simh] Terminal Emulation for SIMH?

2017-09-12 Thread John H. Reinhardt
It has a 30 day trial. -- John H. Reinhardt . ___ Simh mailing list Simh@trailing-edge.com http://mailman.trailing-edge.com/mailman/listinfo/simh

[sage-support] Re: Problem with upgrade on OS X

2017-09-07 Thread John H Palmieri
Sage will build its own gcc, so as long as you have some functioning version of gcc, you shouldn't need to worry about upgrading that. Just try installing a new version of Sage (from scratch, not by upgrading 6.7) and see what happens. John On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 8:56:03 AM

Re: [sage-devel] Does anyone use SAGE64?

2017-09-02 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 11:54:00 AM UTC-7, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > > On 2 September 2017 at 01:41, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Dave, >> >> Can you clarify? You say that the

Re: [sage-devel] Does anyone use SAGE64?

2017-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, September 1, 2017 at 3:47:28 PM UTC-7, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) wrote: > > > On 1 Sep 2017 23:21, "John H Palmieri" <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > Does anyone use the environment variables SAGE64 of CFLAG64? At

[sage-devel] Does anyone use SAGE64?

2017-09-01 Thread John H Palmieri
Does anyone use the environment variables SAGE64 of CFLAG64? At https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23733, it is suggested that they be deprecated and then removed. Any comments? -- John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To

Re: LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

2017-08-26 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
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Re: LA-180 ? On Craigslist near Duluth MI

2017-08-26 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
with the seller just passing the info on Picture #9 has a Model 43 Teletype in a row with what looks like an old mimeograph or electrostatic copier, some early electric typewrite and then an IBM Selectric of some sort. -- John H. Reinhardt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: python3 in sage

2017-08-24 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 2:50:09 PM UTC-7, William wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Nils Bruin > wrote: > > On Thursday, August 24, 2017 at 1:30:25 PM UTC-7, William wrote: > >> > >> I'm not sure what the status is these days, but we may want to stop > >>

[sage-devel] Re: Error Compiling Sage 8.0 from Source

2017-08-17 Thread John H Palmieri
Or as a stopgap, try building with the command OPENBLAS_CONFIGURE="TARGET=HASWELL" make On Thursday, August 17, 2017 at 2:00:03 PM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > OK, this is what they call Kaby Lake H. > > You may try the patch on > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23272 > (it also upgrades

Re: [sage-support] Re: Sage Crash Report

2017-08-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 9:49:35 PM UTC-7, William wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 7:47 PM John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> One of the very last lines of the report says >> >>> >>> ImportError: libgfortran.so

[sage-support] Re: Sage Crash Report

2017-08-15 Thread John H Palmieri
One of the very last lines of the report says > > ImportError: libgfortran.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file > or directory > > You need to install gfortran on your computer. On Tuesday, August 15, 2017 at 6:15:01 PM UTC-7, kats...@gmail.com wrote: > > Sage Crash Report > --

[sage-support] Re: Calling java classes from Sage using Py4J

2017-08-02 Thread John H Palmieri
In Sage, "10" is a Sage integer, not a Python int. I am guessing that gateway.jvm.java.util.Random.nextInt expects a Python int for its input, and when it gets a Sage Integer, that causes a problem. What happens if you replace "random.nextInt(10)" with "random.nextInt(int(10))"? On

[sage-support] Re: numerical semigroup in sagemath

2017-07-26 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, July 25, 2017 at 5:53:37 AM UTC-7, springfield .gion wrote: > > Hi, I need to create and manipulate the additive semigroups generated by > integers (such as those generated by tuples of coprime integers), but I am > struggling with the syntax; is there an easy way to create

[sage-support] Re: sage installation on kubuntu 16.04

2017-07-23 Thread John H Palmieri
One of the last lines in the crash report: ImportError: libgfortran.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory It looks like you need to install gfortran. -- John On Sunday, July 23, 2017 at 2:54:43 AM UTC-7, Santosh Pattanayak wrote: > > Hello, > I tried

[sage-devel] Re: Error building Sage on UM 16.04: error making OpenBLAS

2017-07-21 Thread John H Palmieri
I just had the same problem with a new computer (Kaby Lake processor, apparently). Can we patch OpenBLAS to fall back to ATOM if it's x86_64 but can't detect the precise CPU? (I can't do this, but maybe someone else can.) John On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 12:25:57 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik

[sage-support] Re: Sage Crash Report

2017-06-18 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 4:41:22 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > git repo is not relevant, but a python module that shadows a Sage python > module would be a problem. For example, if you have your own file "parser.py", it would interfere with the standard Python module "parser". --

Re: [sage-devel] Option for docbuilding without plots?

2017-06-17 Thread John H Palmieri
Also "make doc-html-no-plot" as documented here: http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/installation/source.html#make-targets John On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:26:21 AM UTC-7, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > Hi, > > each of the following should work: > > export

Re: [sage-support] Re: typo in simplicial complex documentation?

2017-06-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Sunday, June 11, 2017 at 10:13:52 AM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 11:30 AM, John H Palmieri > <jhpalm...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:05:49 PM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > >> > >&g

Re: [sage-support] Re: typo in simplicial complex documentation?

2017-06-11 Thread John H Palmieri
On Saturday, June 10, 2017 at 7:05:49 PM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 10:49 PM, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com > > wrote: > > > > > > On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 5:16:15 PM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > >> > &g

[sage-support] Re: typo in simplicial complex documentation?

2017-06-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Thursday, June 8, 2017 at 5:16:15 PM UTC-7, David Joyner wrote: > > Hi all: > > This is kind of a newbie question, as I'm not an expert on simplicial > complexes. It's also a minor technical issue on the documentation, not > the code. > > I'm trying to debug some code of mine and, on

Re: [Evolution] Clicking delete icon on highlighted message sometimes causes following message to be deleted, too

2017-06-07 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
causes following message to be deleted, too Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 17:33:34 +0200 On Mon, 2017-06-05 at 10:07 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > evolution 3.20.5 operating under Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit > > Intermittent error that has been around for past month or so.  If > message in m

Re: [Evolution] Repeated errors due to missing file

2017-06-07 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
evolution version 3.20.5 works very well under Ubuntu 16.04. John  -Original Message- From: Jim Ohlstein To: evolution-list@gnome.org Subject: Re: [Evolution] Repeated errors due to missing file Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2017 07:14:16 -0400 On Wed, 2017-06-07 at 08:22

[sage-support] Re: Sage Crash Report

2017-06-05 Thread John H Palmieri
"ImportError: libgfortran.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" It looks like you need to install fortran on your machine. On Monday, June 5, 2017 at 10:12:12 AM UTC-7, Vincent HERBERT wrote: > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[Evolution] Clicking delete icon on highlighted message sometimes causes following message to be deleted, too

2017-06-05 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
evolution 3.20.5 operating under Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit Intermittent error that has been around for past month or so.  If message in message list (inbox, for example) is highlighted, clicking on the DELETE icon (Trash bucket) deletes not only the highlighted message but also the message below.  This

[sage-devel] Sage Python 3 proposal

2017-05-31 Thread John H Palmieri
I have a proposal for making the transition to use Sage with Python 3. See https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/23119 for details (and a branch which works, at least in my limited testing). The proposal: - Have a new command "sage3" which runs Sage using Python 3. - If you build Sage with the

[sage-release] Re: Sage 8.0.beta8 released

2017-05-30 Thread John H Palmieri
I'm getting intermittent timeouts from src/sage/doctest/external.py, and in particular the "has_mathematica()" test. This is a new (but underpowered) computer and it does not have mathematica installed. If I run $ sage --sh $ math-readline then 19 out of 20 times, it fails immediately,

Re: [Evolution] Subfolders under Inbox suddenly disappeared

2017-05-29 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
st.net To: j...@lauterbachandassociates.com, evolution-list <evolution-list@gnome.org> Subject: Re: [Evolution] Subfolders under Inbox suddenly disappeared Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 11:42:02 -0400 On Sat, 2017-05-27 at 10:17 -0400, Dr. John H. Lauterbach wrote: > RE: Evolution 3.20.5 runni

Re: [Evolution] Subfolders under Inbox suddenly disappeared

2017-05-28 Thread Dr. John H. Lauterbach
Thank you, Peter.  We use Nemo with the "show hidden files" option on. If they were there, we would see them as I double checked with my laptop PC where same version of evolution and same OS is being used. Looking for way of rebuilding database as size of vfolders.db is correct size for

[sage-devel] Re: python3 : help needed

2017-05-28 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 8:40:22 AM UTC-7, Nils Bruin wrote: > > On Friday, May 26, 2017 at 7:52:57 AM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote: >> >> If you build Sage's IPython package with SAGE_PYTHON3=yes, then it will >> install a script local/bin/ipython3. (Note then t

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