Dear Gilberto,
You wrote: But at the same time, among the many different
religious discussions one can have, some smell different.
Below is a excerpt from a brief compilation I did in 2003
which I think of as Baha'u'llah's smell test... References
below.
Lovingly, Sandra
Glorified art
On Mon, 03 Jan 2005 18:12:17 -0800, J. Vahid Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Gilberto,
You asked:
Do you know where those other numbers come from? I think the only
number I've heard of was 10 because in Genesis when Abraham was
haggling with God to spare Sodom, God said that if there
On Mon, 3 Jan 2005 18:59:57 -0800 (PST), John Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
J: But you do not accept the appearance of anyone on par with Prophet
Muhammad, i.e. Baha'u'llah, who revealed a brand new Qur'an equal to the
Qur'an you currently use, do you. In that respect, I believe that
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:50:23 -0600, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Saying God CAN'T do something is tying up his hands
Saying God CAN do something but in his sovereign authority and
omnipotence chose to do something different is not typing up his
hands
Dear Gilberto,
And do you
It would appear that the Jews
of Medina, seeing the poverty of the Muslims, derided the latters'
conviction that they were struggling in God's cause and that the
Qur'an was divinely revealed. Thus, the saying of the Jews mentioned
in this verse, God's hand is shackled, as well as the parallel one
Gilberto:
I see your point and would tend to agree with you in
mundane examples
but when you are talking about divine revelation I think
you start to run into problems.
Rich:
How so?
Gilberto:
In the mundane case it is easier to deal with the idea that nothing
Rich:
I think you're skirting the issue here. Sunni's do not believe that the
12 Imams were infallible in there interpretation of the Qur'an or that their
rulings are infallible. Sunnis do not believe that the 12 Imams were the
temporal AND spriritual head of the Ummah.
In a message dated 1/4/2005 3:17:31 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, given the wine-imagery in some of the Bahai writings andgiven that Bahais are also "exempt" from Muslim prayers, I would beslightly surprisedif Bahais didn't make a similar argument.
We are also
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:40:39 -0800, Rich Ater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gilberto:
I see your point and would tend to agree with you in
mundane examples but
when you are talking about divine revelation I think you start to run into
problems.
Rich:
How so?
Gilberto:
In the mundane case it
In a message dated 1/4/2005 5:35:55 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But
in general, that books which I've read which come out of the"Deobandi"
circles are actually pretty explicitly and uniformlysupportive of Sufism.
Tablighi Jamaat which is probably the
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:50:35 -0600, Susan Maneck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It would appear that the Jews
of Medina, seeing the poverty of the Muslims, derided the latters'
conviction that they were struggling in God's cause and that the
Qur'an was divinely revealed. Thus, the saying of the Jews
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:44:14 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 1/4/2005 3:17:31 PM Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually, given the wine-imagery in some of the Bahai writings and
given that Bahais are also exempt from Muslim prayers, I would
In a message dated 1/4/2005 5:57:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I
don'tthink that that kind of success is much of an indication of truth.
Infact, I think in general the liberation theology perspective
(whereGod is on the side of the poor and the oppressed) is
Gilberto wrote:
So I would say the Bahai use of the term is certainly different from
the original. And I'm not convinced it is even applicable.
Dear Gilberto: As one who has embraced the Baha'i Faith because of the
Qur'an, I have read your posts, and the posts sent to you with some
interest.
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