Re: Glue records (was Re: ATTN GARY KLINE)

2010-11-08 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Friday 05 November 2010 22:51:01 Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Fri Nov 5 02:26:31 2010 From: Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 10:27:38 +0200 Subject: Glue records (was Re: ATTN GARY KLINE)

zfs performance issues with iscsi (istgt)

2010-11-08 Thread DJ
After scratching my head for a few weeks, I've decided to ask for some help. First, I've got two machines connected by gigabit ethernet, network performance is not a problem as I am able to substantially saturate the wire when not using iscsi [say iperf] or ftp. Both systems are 8.1-RELENG.

Re: zfs performance issues with iscsi (istgt)

2010-11-08 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 08.11.2010 09:13, DJ wrote: After scratching my head for a few weeks, I've decided to ask for some help. First, I've got two machines connected by gigabit ethernet, network performance is not a problem as I am able to substantially saturate the wire when not using iscsi [say iperf] or

Re: portmaster question

2010-11-08 Thread RW
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:11:50 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: When using 'portupgrade', I commonly use the '-r' flag in conjunction with the previously discussed '-a' flag. While not as through as the -u -p flags with 'portmanger', it

Re: how to generate pi in c

2010-11-08 Thread Ian Smith
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 335, Issue 11, Message: 4 On Sat, 06 Nov 2010 01:00:34 -0700 per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: Julian Fagir g...@physik.tu-berlin.de wrote: Does anyone has a generate-pi.c source code? ... 1 #include stdlib.h 2 #include string.h 3 #include stdio.h

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:07:29 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: With the command-line you also choose the inefficiency of having to read the man page every time you want to do something you're not familiar with. Not fully. The strength of the command line is (1st) that things you

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:41:09 -0800, Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com wrote: Up to a point, yes. But as options become more complex, either the GUI must also become more complex or you reach the tipping point where the complexity warrants the use of language instead of gestures. This is

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:17:23 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I did give a nod to discoverability for GUIs, as you might note if you go back and read what you quoted back at me. That's exactly what you're talking about. I don't see why you have to pretend I didn't mention it, and

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:17:23 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: So, let's see here -- either I lose efficiency on things that aren't very familiar to me, because I have to type `foo --help` or `man foo` or something like that, or I lose efficiency on things I do all the time, because

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:43:01 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: [...] I do think a well-designed GUI can increase productivity by bringing things together that would otherwise be separate. Yes. Plain YES. I'm just waiting for the GUI that actually DOES that. :-) -- Polytropon

UFS

2010-11-08 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
Hi, We have a problem with a few of our users. And I'm a bit speechless since I understood what are our commercials doing... Whatever... We are providing a pre-configured FreeBSD distribution, for videosurveillance prupose. It seems the machines sold with our distribution may come with at max

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, November 08, 2010 a las 10:56:00AM +0100, Polytropon escribió: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:17:23 -0700, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: So, let's see here -- either I lose efficiency on things that aren't very familiar to me, because I have to type `foo --help` or `man foo`

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 11:00:59 +0100 Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:43:01 +, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: [...] I do think a well-designed GUI can increase productivity by bringing things together that would otherwise be separate. Yes. Plain YES. I'm

Re: portmaster question

2010-11-08 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:11:50 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com articulated: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: When using 'portupgrade', I commonly use the '-r' flag in conjunction with the previously discussed '-a' flag. While not as through as the -u -p flags with 'portmanger',

Re: UFS

2010-11-08 Thread Ivan Voras
On 11/08/10 11:01, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: In my opinion, the only chance to get back the data would be to plug an additional drive, make a huge swap file... Knowing that context switching, on such an amount of RAM ... that would at least take days. In doubt: am I missing something? Is

static linking with gfortran?

2010-11-08 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
On ia64 -current I'm trying to statically link against gfortran45 libraries, following from GCC fortran wiki (http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranGettingStarted) : % gfortran45 -static mach-fort.f90 -o z % file z z: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, IA-64, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, not stripped

Re: is there a utillity...?

2010-11-08 Thread Duncan Young
On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 03:55:28 pm Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Nov 02), Gary Kline said: On Wed, Nov 03, 2010 at 01:44:37AM +, Bruce Cran wrote: On Wednesday 03 November 2010 01:17:00 Gary Kline wrote: The Bps Down is supposed to me 1M. Up is 864Kbps. I spent

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread krad
On 6 November 2010 21:38, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 02:30:16PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important data can do without

Re: portmaster question

2010-11-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 06:22:55 -0500 Jerry freebsd.u...@seibercom.net wrote: I don't see anything that specifically states the the -R or -r flags are in included with the -a flag; although I might be misinterpreting it. If it was implied i think it should have been better documented. -aRr

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/08/10 13:52, krad wrote: On 6 November 2010 21:38, Roland Smithrsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 02:30:16PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important

Re: removing files

2010-11-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:40:20AM +0530, yoganjaneyulu kasetti wrote: hi, I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one can guide me for the same. I have some files with the extension of .chk extension along with the extension of .log and .gjf extension in the

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 08.11.2010 16:37, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/08/10 13:52, krad wrote: On 6 November 2010 21:38, Roland Smithrsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 02:30:16PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra features of zfs.

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:43:01AM +, Bruce Cran wrote: On Sun, 7 Nov 2010 23:17:23 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: I did give a nod to discoverability for GUIs, as you might note if you go back and read what you quoted back at me. That's exactly what you're talking

how to trace /dev/gpt/label to adaX to conroller?

2010-11-08 Thread Peter
iH, Is there any easy straight forward way to trace my /dev/gpt/data.zfs disk to what ada device it is, and on what controller? I've traced it manually by doing a gpart list adaX |grep data.zfs on each adaX device, then somehow I found out what controller it is on [I think by manually looking

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Arthur Chance
On 11/08/10 16:08, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: On 08.11.2010 16:37, Arthur Chance wrote: On 11/08/10 13:52, krad wrote: On 6 November 2010 21:38, Roland Smithrsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 02:30:16PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: Having said all that it really

Entropy Key for FreeBSD?

2010-11-08 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
Hi, Did anyone in the community try to adopt the Entropy Key http://www.entropykey.com/ for use with FreeBSD? As a non-programmer I would not even try but perhaps someone with better skills already did? FWIW MirBSD seems to have a port of the keyd. Thanks!

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Bruce Cran
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 09:32:20 -0700 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: You probably found it inefficient because you did not bother to gain sufficient familiarity with it to enjoy the efficiencies it provided. Seriously. In my experience, development on MS Windows with clicky GUI tools

Re: Tips for installing windows and freeBSD both.. anyone??

2010-11-08 Thread Charlie Kester
On Mon 08 Nov 2010 at 02:06:24 PST Matthias Apitz wrote: I think this philosofic discussion has little or nothing todo with FreeBSD. Could you move this elsewhere, or off-list? Thanks It's also a very very OLD argument. Surely the debating points have already been collected on a webpage

Re: UFS

2010-11-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:50 AM, Ivan Voras ivo...@freebsd.org wrote: On 11/08/10 11:01, Samuel Martín Moro wrote: In my opinion, the only chance to get back the data would be to plug an additional drive, make a huge swap file... Knowing that context switching, on such an amount of RAM ...

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: The GEOM_ELI class provides optional authentication/checksumming. See geli(8), especially the -a option. snip im not sure on whether that you be a viable replacement, as it has to be a fairly good checksum

apache13 to apache22

2010-11-08 Thread Fbsd8
As I do a complete fresh install of 8.1 I saw that apache13 is no longer being supported, so thought this is the time I will move to apache22. Now everything went real easy until testing my websites. In apache13 the .css (style sheet) calls for a blue background. The .css file is in the same

Re: portmaster question

2010-11-08 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, RW wrote: -aRr isn't implied by -a, the rR options are ignored in the former. I think it's fairly clear that recursing through installed packages with consistent dependecies isn't going to find a package that isn't in the set of all installed packages. That sentence makes

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 08.11.2010 18:47, Arthur Chance wrote: *snip* Presuming you're talking about ZFS, the hash isn't intended to correct hardware errors, it's only there to detect them. Correction comes from mirroring or the use of RAIDZ{1,2,3}. (I have personal experience of how well that works, as I had a

Re: apache13 to apache22

2010-11-08 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 02:18:19PM -0500, Fbsd8 wrote: As I do a complete fresh install of 8.1 I saw that apache13 is no longer being supported, so thought this is the time I will move to apache22. Now everything went real easy until testing my websites. In apache13 the .css (style sheet)

Re: [2nd try] OpenGL 3.3 and 4.0/4.1 for FreeBSD?

2010-11-08 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Sorry to repeat my question: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2010-November/223379.html but I got no replies at all. Anyone

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: But it's still not capable of true forward-error-correction. If we are to embark upon creating a new solution, using something that is cheap

Re: removing files

2010-11-08 Thread Frank Shute
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:48:18AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:40:20AM +0530, yoganjaneyulu kasetti wrote: hi, I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one can guide me for the same. I have some files with the extension of

Re: [2nd try] OpenGL 3.3 and 4.0/4.1 for FreeBSD?

2010-11-08 Thread Chris Brennan
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 3:38 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:46 AM, Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net wrote: On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 7:34 PM, C. P. Ghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: Sorry to repeat my question:

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 08.11.2010 21:44, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: But it's still not capable of true forward-error-correction. If we are to embark upon creating a new

Re: removing files

2010-11-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 08:49:12PM +, Frank Shute wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 10:48:18AM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 11:40:20AM +0530, yoganjaneyulu kasetti wrote: hi, I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one

pam services under ldap

2010-11-08 Thread bluethundr
Hello List I am attempting to setup various pam modules to consult our new LDAP services in order to do what it needs to do. My LDAP server is FreeBSD but the clients are CentOS... I have setup my /etc/pam.d sudo file on the client (for example) this way in the attempt to accomplish this via

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) svein-listm...@stillbilde.net wrote: And I'm ... all too familiar with redundancy strategies (and backups). Including their shortcomings. Speaking of which: Has there been any progress on properly backing up ZFS on FreeBSD yet?

Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread doug
When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to have two cards in one box was lost due to int10 provided by libpciaccess. Is this still

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST) d...@safeport.com d...@safeport.com articulated: When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to my Dell PE300 built in the last century. I was told the ability to

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:44:29PM +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: But it's still not capable of true forward-error-correction. If we are to

Re: ZFS License and Future

2010-11-08 Thread krad
On 8 November 2010 22:35, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 09:44:29PM +0100, C. P. Ghost wrote: On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 7:38 PM, Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On Mon, Nov 08, 2010 at 05:08:33PM +0100, Svein Skogen (Listmail account) wrote: But it's

Re: Copy all users between systems

2010-11-08 Thread mattibj...@bredband.net
Hello Matthew, On 10/29/2010 04:51 PM, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 29/10/2010 12:46, Laszlo Nagy wrote: I would like to copy all user accounts, including root from an already installed 8.0 system to a fresh new 8.1 system. My plan is to boot into single user mode, then copy these: /etc/passwd

Re: Administrating more than 10 servers

2010-11-08 Thread mattibj...@bredband.net
Hello there, On 10/25/2010 04:19 AM, Randy Belk wrote: This is a must read for multiple UNIX server administration, http://www.cae.tntech.edu/~mwr/unix_infrastructure_management_from_scratch.pdf . Just want to thank you for the PDF, very interesting. If you are in town I can buy you a beer

Re: Xorg support for adding a graphics card

2010-11-08 Thread doug
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 17:08:23 -0500 (EST) d...@safeport.com d...@safeport.com articulated: When I slid froward from FreeBSD 7.2 and Xorg (whatever) to 8.0 and xorg-7.4_4 I lost the ability to use the graphics card I had added to my Dell PE300 built in the last

Re: portmaster question

2010-11-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:50:21 -0700 (MST) Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Mon, 8 Nov 2010, RW wrote: -aRr isn't implied by -a, the rR options are ignored in the former. I think it's fairly clear that recursing through installed packages with consistent dependecies isn't going

Re: Entropy Key for FreeBSD?

2010-11-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:51:08 +0100 Per olof Ljungmark p...@intersonic.se wrote: Hi, Did anyone in the community try to adopt the Entropy Key http://www.entropykey.com/ for use with FreeBSD? As a non-programmer I would not even try but perhaps someone with better skills already did?

Re: removing files

2010-11-08 Thread Eitan Adler
On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Pegasus Mc Cleaft k...@mthelicon.com wrote: On Monday 08 November 2010 06:10:20 yoganjaneyulu kasetti wrote: hi, I have a problem for deleting files using scriptplease some one can guide me for the same. I have some files with the extension of .chk

Re: removing files

2010-11-08 Thread Peter Boosten
On 9-11-2010 6:57, Eitan Adler wrote: If you really want to delete all the .chk files extension files at a time find path -name '*.chk' -print -prune -exec rm -rf {} + \; And more efficient: find path -name '*.chk' -delete Peter -- http://www.boosten.org

Re: Copy all users between systems

2010-11-08 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 08/11/2010 22:44, mattibj...@bredband.net wrote: Its never bad to be careful but shouldn't it be enough to change init mode? This isn't SysV. BSD init doesn't really do modes. However, yes, taking the system down to single user and then back up to multiuser is a possibility.

Re: Entropy Key for FreeBSD?

2010-11-08 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
On 11/09/10 01:09, RW wrote: On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 18:51:08 +0100 Per olof Ljungmarkp...@intersonic.se wrote: Hi, Did anyone in the community try to adopt the Entropy Key http://www.entropykey.com/ for use with FreeBSD? As a non-programmer I would not even try but perhaps someone with better