Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Carol Moore dc
On 9/9/2014 7:51 PM, LB wrote: I'm going to keep at it, for now. Honestly, I'm tired of it being a mostly internally discussed problem... Perhaps I'll change my mind at some point, but that's my thinking on it at this time. Lightbreather You are braver than I! On the other hand this is what

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Carol Moore dc carolmoor...@verizon.net wrote: On 9/9/2014 7:51 PM, LB wrote: I'm going to keep at it, for now. Honestly, I'm tired of it being a mostly internally discussed problem... Perhaps I'll change my mind at some point, but that's my thinking on it

[Gendergap] Charting Diversity: New blog post is up!

2014-09-10 Thread Christopher Schwarzkopf
Hello everybody, as some of you might already know, Wikimedia Deutschland recently published the study Charting Diversity that summarizes the key conclusions of our research and development project Diversity for Wikipedia. Today we officially announced the study to the international movement

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Sarah Stierch
Hi. Some people can't speak up about what happened for legal reasons. I do think there is a double standard. But I have before my involvement in wiki. Living in the US it's a way of life. Some women who were impacted by those posts were harassed by people involved way prior to making their own

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Nathan
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Sarah Stierch sarah.stie...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. Some people can't speak up about what happened for legal reasons. I do think there is a double standard. But I have before my involvement in wiki. Living in the US it's a way of life. Some women who were

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Sarah Stierch
Thanks Nathan. I do concur that harassment to the level myself, Carol and other very active outspoken women have experienced on/off wiki is not the standard experience for every woman who lines up to click edit. It sucks that it happens. But I also always remind people - unless you are editing

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread LB
And of course, that is the nub of the problem. Women shouldn't have to keep their heads down and write about acceptable and uncontroversial things to avoid getting harassed. (Also, I'm not sure even editing women scientists would be safe.) Lightbreather On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:15 AM, Sarah

Re: [Gendergap] Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Sarah Stierch
I agree. But, it hasn't been serving those women who don't very well. The NFL is appearing to have a better track record right now than the Wikimedia community... in handling harassers and that's not saying much at all :) Sarah On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:36 AM, LB lightbreath...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [Gendergap] Use of hashtag... Shining light on the gender gap by Twitter

2014-09-10 Thread Carol Moore dc
On Sep 10, 2014 8:41 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com mailto:nawr...@gmail.com wrote Hi Sarah, I'm sorry if I was unclear. I was understanding Carol as saying that there were sexist comments in the ANI she linked (where Andreas' quoted comment was found). I read the entire AN/I thread and the

Re: [Gendergap] Wikipedia and the war on women’s dignity

2014-09-10 Thread Carol Moore dc
Good point. Actually I first heard about it on ANI where they didn't link to the page, but I didn't put two and two together of WHY they didn't link. On 9/9/2014 7:22 PM, Katherine Casey wrote: I don't think it's appropriate to use this list to link to pages that out other users. I understand