[videoblogging] TRUFFA A DANNO DEI MALTI PSICHIATRICI A PARMA PER 100000 EURO

2007-06-29 Thread talento sprecato
Salve ragazzi
  a Parma è successa una cosa gravissima
  100.000 EURO SOTTRATTI AI MALATI PSICHICI DA APRTE DELL' AUSL
  ecco il video ( un pò montato male ed in bassisisma qualità ma se andate 
oltre i primi secondi ed ascoltate la signora magari vi resta qualcosa ..)
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTRDhc1D4AU
   
  voglio che lo vedano tutti, che tutti capiscano con quale leggerezza ai paini 
alti ci si prende gioco di chi non può difendersi...
   
  Grazie
  ah...vi avviso che non controllo mAI  questo account
   
   contattatemi a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
   
  cocci
   

   
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Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread randulo
Actually, you make a pretty decent preface there for the argument that
*sales* sites should pay more for access because they make money,
whereas the blogs, vlogs, and schlogs, hobby sites, free radio and
video, etc etc should always have reliable, broadband, free access on
solid peered networks. I'll go for that!

/r

On 6/29/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It will help the consumer, but hurt the citizen.

 There is a big difference between getting your shit that you bought
 delivered and getting access to stuff that is out there.

 Delivery vs Access... That's the frames we're working with guys.

 ATT wants to be able to 'deliver you the (their) world', and people
 like you and I just want access.

 I've been through this before on this list, and I still believe that
 it holds true.

 If the debate is framed in terms of 'delivery': products being
 bought, sold, packaged shipped, etc. If this is the frame for the
 debate, we are in trouble.

 Our stuff just gets in the way of people getting stuff that 'they
 actually paid for'. Quite literally, by definition, our kind of media
 impacts the 'consumer'.

 It's all going to make sense because it's true. Net Neutrality does
 impact the consumer. It makes them have to pay less. Consumers
 SPEND,SPEND,SPEND, not save, save, save.

 Net Neutrality is an absolute requirement if the internet is going to
 be more than an 'information market'. Without Net Neutrality, our
 information, 'all information' will become a commodity and it will be
 sold to the highest bidder, and guess what? Most real live breathing
 people will not be able to compete with the $10 Billion in quarterly
 profit of an Exxon. It's nothing for them to shell out $50K, heck
 even $500K to get good access, especially when that access is
 unchallenged.

 In fact, I would even argue that for them to do business it is
 imperative that they clamp down on all the cheap and rapid
 development of today's internet. It cost more to print the literature
 for an obsolete 2 year old running IT project than it would be to pay
 a $50,000 flat fee for privileged internet access.

 Get evolution to a manageable pace, restrict access and consolidate
 power. That's what the destruction of Net Neutrality offers them.

 I think that the big companies can't compete in a Net Neutral
 internet. There's just too much overhead. Layers and layers of
 bureaucracy, layers and layers of costs that must be born because of
 instantaneously shifting trends in information technology. The
 internet has proven to be more than an information market. We are
 more than consumers.

 Citizens require access to good information.

 Consumers pay to have information delivered.

 Access is more important than delivery.

 I'd love to talk more about this...

 Cheers,

 Ron Watson
 http://k9disc.blip.tv
 http://k9disc.com
 http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog
 http://pawsitivevybe.com



 On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Heath wrote:

  Like anyone here on this group didn't know this but look at the last
  line from this article
 
  WASHINGTON - The Federal Trade Commission on Wednesday urged
  policymakers to proceed cautiously on any regulation of high-speed
  Internet traffic.
 
  The agency issued a report addressing the controversial subject of
  network neutrality, which is the notion that all online traffic
  should be treated equally by Internet service providers.
 
  The issue pits consumer groups and content providers such as Google
  Inc. against large telecommunications companies, such as ATT Inc.
  and Comcast Corp. The latter group wants the option of charging
  customers more for transmitting certain content, including live
  video, faster or more reliably than other data.
 
  FTC Chairwoman Deborah Platt Majoras said that without evidence
  of market failure or demonstrated consumer harm, policy makers
  should be particularly hesitant to enact new regulation in this
  area. The Federal Communications Commission and Department of
  Justice have jurisdiction over high-speed Internet access, while
  Congress has considered legislation that would mandate network
  neutrality.
 
  The agency also said that certain practices that would discriminate
  among Internet traffic, such as prioritizing some data or providing
  exclusive deals to content providers, can benefit consumers.
 
  can benefit consumers.my a$$.
 
  Heath
  http://batmangeek.com
  http://aroundcincinnati.net
 
 
 



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Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 8:38 am, randulo wrote:
 Actually, you make a pretty decent preface there for the argument that
 *sales* sites should pay more for access because they make money,
 whereas the blogs, vlogs, and schlogs, hobby sites, free radio and
 video, etc etc should always have reliable, broadband, free access on
 solid peered networks. I'll go for that!


Um, I think people should just pay for a service. More bandwidth costs 
more money, less bandwidth is cheaper. Trying to figure out how much to 
charge by content instead of usage is ... well, there's no polite way to 
say it ... pretty dumb.

I produce the same bandwith load for ATT with 100MB of ABC podcasts as 
I would getting 100MB of Dragon*ConTV ... that doesn't mean I should pay 
more or less for the bandwidth used to get ABC's content, and I should 
get it at a similar speed.

Anything else is the insertion of anti-corporate nonsense or political 
correctness into a simple business transaction between myself and a 
communications company. It's akin to saying business should pay more per 
gallon for water, poor communities should get higher water pressure, or 
water must go to the BrandA faucet first because they sponsor the water 
company.

I just want bandwidth in a free market economy ... that's all. If the 
company I use to get it doesn't give me proper service, then I want the 
ability to get it somewhere else.

Go tell the folks at AskANinja or SliceOfSciFi they need to pay more for 
bandwidth now that they generate some revenue. Let me know how that goes 
over :)
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[videoblogging] Re: planting a pink seed...

2007-06-29 Thread Justin Kownacki
Pittsburgh's not exactly on your itinerary, but if you head East, you
can presumably get a hug from every member of our cast. (At 25+,
that's a lot of hugs...)

Cheers.

Justin Kownacki
Producer, Something to Be Desired
http://www.somethingtobedesired.com


Re: [videoblogging] TRUFFA A DANNO DEI MALTI PSICHIATRICI A PARMA PER 100000 EURO

2007-06-29 Thread Jay dedman
On 6/29/07, talento sprecato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Salve ragazzi
a Parma è successa una cosa gravissima
100.000 EURO SOTTRATTI AI MALATI PSICHICI DA APRTE DELL' AUSL
ecco il video ( un pò montato male ed in bassisisma qualità ma se andate 
 oltre i primi secondi ed ascoltate la signora magari vi resta qualcosa ..)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTRDhc1D4AU

im assuming this is spam.
member gone.

Jay


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Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread randulo
On 6/29/07, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Um, I think people should just pay for a service. More bandwidth costs
 more money, less bandwidth is cheaper. Trying to figure out how much to
 charge by content instead of usage is ... well, there's no polite way to
 say it ... pretty dumb.

Sorry the irony didn't come through. Personally I hope (like a lot of
people) that nothing changes except for connectivity getting better
and cheaper for all, but I'm not sure how long the current model will
be tolerated by the real power holders, as is evidenced by the
original post.


[videoblogging] Re: Check out new video blog -not getting much traffic

2007-06-29 Thread Daryl Urig
Andrew,

thanks again.

I had selected rich media files, but have now selected only video files, 
does I tunes work 
for you now?

I am not sure about what you ment by:

I suppose you are doing that through your blogspot blog., I am not sure I am.

Daryl





--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Daryl:
 
 I subscribed to your feed with iTunes and no movie was in the feed. I  
 would defer to some of the other folks on this list about why that  
 is. My guess is that it may be the format of your movie, or you may  
 need to enable SmartCast in Feedburner's Optimize Control Panel and  
 choose only video files or any rich media file so that it  
 generates an enclosure when you post a new blog post. I suppose you  
 are doing that through your blogspot blog.
 
 There are low cost video flash players at http:// 
 www.wimpyplayer.com and there are some freeware/open source options  
 as well. You can check the archives of this list for some links.
 
 There are many options out there for video sharing. One option for  
 hosting is YouTube if you don't want to worry about bandwidth. There  
 is also blip.tv. I would also ask some of the folks here about other  
 options–I'm learning as well.
 
 All the best,
 
 Andrew
 
 -
 Andrew Darlow
 Editor, The Imaging Buffet
 http://www.imagingbuffet.com
 http://www.andrewdarlow.com
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Daryl Urig wrote:
 
  Andrew, those are all goood comments, I appreciate them all.
 
  I hope to impliment many of them. Does the bloging and rss feed  
  look correct? I want to
  make sure I am not missing anything technical.
 
  What kind of flash player would you use? What would yu use on a non  
  streaming server?
 
  Thanks,
  Daryl
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow ad@ wrote:
  
   Hi Daryl:
  
   I just watched your video and looked at your work. First, I really
   like your paintings-especially the color work. I didn't know why you
   were painted grey until I looked at your work after watching the  
  video.
  
   The self-interview, in my opinion, is very entertaining, but also a
   little off-putting. Some people might think you are being a bit too
   silly for a painter, but others might like the fact that you are
   letting your guard down and not being a stuffy artist. I'm a
   photographer and have seen many different sites with galleries. I
   like how you present your work, though I would choose a background
   color other than white. I think your keepsake portraits are a great
   idea, and the video definitely gives people a more personal look at
   you–which might entice them to open their drawers for you as well
   (inside joke for those who have seen the video).
  
   You might consider turning the camera toward a family member who is
   watching you and laughing (to just make light of the whole  
  thing), or
   you can do outtakes showing you getting made up. I would also
   recommend showing the work that you describe (such as the portraits,
   giclee prints, on the road series) on the screen in a small window,
   or even filling the whole window for a few seconds when you mention
   them. I would even include one of your poems (possibly scrolling up
   the screen), especially if you plan to incorporate those into  
  your work.
  
   I personally don't like the video in a box with the darkened  
  area. It
   feels like my computer is being taken over. I would also use a flash
   player and have a way for people to comment and share the video
   through an embed URL link. It's all about gettin' viral. There are a
   number of free or inexpensive flash players, or you could use a
   network or video sharing site, but make sure you read the fine  
  print.
   I think you have it just available in Quicktime, which will limit  
  the
   number of non-Mac users who can view it without downloading a  
  plug-in.
  
   I would also try to keep it under 3 minutes. I'm sure others here
   will have other suggestions on time.
  
   I'd also invite people to take a look at your site on other groups
   like this one. I moderate one for digital artists (mostly people who
   make inkjet prints and other prints for sale and/or exhibition).  
  Just
   search for Digital-fineart on groups.yahoo.com.
  
   Hope that helps. Best of luck, and congratulations on your paint
   palette invention. That is impressive!
  
   Andrew Darlow
  
   ---
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   Editor, The Imaging Buffet
   http://www.imagingbuffet.com
   Chief Cook: http://www.bigdiner.com
  
  
  
  
   On Jun 28, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Daryl Urig wrote:
  
can I get a crit, not getting as much traffic as hoped.
Am I doing everything correctly?
   
See video
Blog and
RSS Feed
   
Please try a post to blog, 0 so far?
   
Here:
   

Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast?
On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 11:05 am, randulo wrote:
 Sorry the irony didn't come through.

Drat, my irony filter was on :)
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[videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Carl Weaver
I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan  
deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but  
to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so  
Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?

I'm just sayin'...

Carl

Carl Weaver
Photographer
http://www.carlweaver.com
http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips and more
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Michael Sullivan wrote:

 no comment

 except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort to pay lan
 before podtech does.
 care for some competition, podtech?

 lan, how much do we need to raise?






[videoblogging] Re: July - My Month of Youtube

2007-06-29 Thread wreckandsalvage
I post stuff on YouTube that doesn't show up on Bullemhead.com sometimes.

Here's me:
http://youtube.com/user/bullemhead

And here's a few amazing people I subscribe to:
http://youtube.com/user/brianbress
http://youtube.com/user/JasonEppink
http://youtube.com/user/drewtoothpaste

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, schlomo rabinowitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, though I watch more than upload video to YT, here's my url: 
 http://youtube.com/user/schlomo
 
 Though I'm not sure why, if you already subscribe to me, that you would
 subscribe to my youtube channel.  They are all the same vids as on
my site,
 just not ALL the videos on my site.  So, I dunno, yeah.
 
 If you search for me on vimeo, I actually post some vimeo-specific
vids over
 there.
 
 Also, here is one of my favorite creators over there, though he is
 definitely an aquired taste:
 http://youtube.com/user/JohnnieTV
 
 Schlomo
 http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
 http://weknowhow.tv
 http://winkshow.com
 http://hatfactory.net
 
 
 
 On 6/28/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I'm:
  http://youtube.com/slowhello
 
  Add! subscribe! friend! me or whatever it is one does on YT! I'll
look for
  y'all too.
 
  All I have up is one Trace Garden video, but I'm going into upload
  overdrive
  shortly. I'm also launching a personal vlog next week and will put
those
  on
  YouTube as well - but maybe a different account. Trying to decide
whether
  to
  separate my conceptual projects from the personal on YT or if its
worth
  the
  bother.
 
  I jsut discovered I'm also on YT via an old friend who uploaded stroby
  grainy old clips of me doing a live noise set a log time
ago in
  the
  record store he used to run. A *very* strange feeling to run
across that.
  I
  barely recognize myself.
 
  Brook
 
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  film/video/audio art
  www.brookhinton.com vlog links are here
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[videoblogging] Hey Lan, why I cant pay up..Scoble

2007-06-29 Thread John Coffey
Check out where Scoble is today!
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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Devlon Duthie
I'm with Carl.  

If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy be more
effective?

also, just saying :)

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-Original Message-
From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan  
deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but  
to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so  
Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?

I'm just sayin'...

Carl

Carl Weaver
Photographer
http://www.carlweaver.com
http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips and more
http://dcmetrostories.com - DC Metro Stories: Stories about the people,
places
and events in the DC Metro area
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Michael Sullivan wrote:

 no comment

 except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort to pay
lan
 before podtech does.
 care for some competition, podtech?

 lan, how much do we need to raise?






 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens?

This group does some very cool things and discovers news worthy  
information all the time and this has the two side talking.

It sounds like something is going to happen and that this will come  
to a settlement but I don't think that will happen untill after the  
4th of July so can we pause for a little while, bring it back up  
later if we need to and move on to some fun stuff like What iPhone  
line is Steve Garfield standing in?  or Why is Ask a Ninja going to  
Israel ?



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On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Devlon Duthie wrote:

 I'm with Carl.

 If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy  
 be more
 effective?

 also, just saying :)

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 -Original Message-
 From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com  
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
 Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

 I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan
 deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but
 to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so
 Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?

 I'm just sayin'...

 Carl

 Carl Weaver
 Photographer
 http://www.carlweaver.com
 http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips  
 and more
 http://dcmetrostories.com - DC Metro Stories: Stories about the  
 people,
 places
 and events in the DC Metro area
 http://nextlifeintheafternoon.com - A Journey Through Thailand

 Michael Sullivan wrote:
 
  no comment
 
  except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort  
 to pay
 lan
  before podtech does.
  care for some competition, podtech?
 
  lan, how much do we need to raise?

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[videoblogging] Re: Check out new video blog -not getting much traffic

2007-06-29 Thread Daryl Urig
Andrew,

that is a good idea. I was using the web page, not the source video file.
Just completed it, then updated feed.

Does it work for you now?

Thanks,

Daryl


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Daryl;
 
 Try posting the direct link to the video file on your blog in a blog  
 post:
 
 http://greycoloredpainter.blogspot.com/
 
 Your main site has no RSS feed so that's probably why it is not being  
 picked up and added to the feed as an enclosure.
 
 All the best,
 
 Andrew
 
 ---
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 Editor, The Imaging Buffet
 http://www.imagingbuffet.com
 Chief Cook: http://www.bigdiner.com
 
 
 
 
 On Jun 29, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Daryl Urig wrote:
 
  Andrew,
 
  thanks again.
 
  I had selected rich media files, but have now selected only  
  video files, does I tunes work
  for you now?
 
  I am not sure about what you ment by:
 
  I suppose you are doing that through your blogspot blog., I am  
  not sure I am.
 
  Daryl
 
  --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow ad@ wrote:
  
   Hi Daryl:
  
   I subscribed to your feed with iTunes and no movie was in the  
  feed. I
   would defer to some of the other folks on this list about why that
   is. My guess is that it may be the format of your movie, or you may
   need to enable SmartCast in Feedburner's Optimize Control Panel  
  and
   choose only video files or any rich media file so that it
   generates an enclosure when you post a new blog post. I suppose you
   are doing that through your blogspot blog.
  
   There are low cost video flash players at http://
   www.wimpyplayer.com and there are some freeware/open source options
   as well. You can check the archives of this list for some links.
  
   There are many options out there for video sharing. One option for
   hosting is YouTube if you don't want to worry about bandwidth. There
   is also blip.tv. I would also ask some of the folks here about other
   options–I'm learning as well.
  
   All the best,
  
   Andrew
  
   -
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   Editor, The Imaging Buffet
   http://www.imagingbuffet.com
   http://www.andrewdarlow.com
   mailto:ad@
  
  
  
   On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Daryl Urig wrote:
  
Andrew, those are all goood comments, I appreciate them all.
   
I hope to impliment many of them. Does the bloging and rss feed
look correct? I want to
make sure I am not missing anything technical.
   
What kind of flash player would you use? What would yu use on a  
  non
streaming server?
   
Thanks,
Daryl
   
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow ad@ wrote:

 Hi Daryl:

 I just watched your video and looked at your work. First, I  
  really
 like your paintings-especially the color work. I didn't know  
  why you
 were painted grey until I looked at your work after watching the
video.

 The self-interview, in my opinion, is very entertaining, but  
  also a
 little off-putting. Some people might think you are being a  
  bit too
 silly for a painter, but others might like the fact that you are
 letting your guard down and not being a stuffy artist. I'm a
 photographer and have seen many different sites with  
  galleries. I
 like how you present your work, though I would choose a  
  background
 color other than white. I think your keepsake portraits are a  
  great
 idea, and the video definitely gives people a more personal  
  look at
 you–which might entice them to open their drawers for you  
  as well
 (inside joke for those who have seen the video).

 You might consider turning the camera toward a family member  
  who is
 watching you and laughing (to just make light of the whole
thing), or
 you can do outtakes showing you getting made up. I would also
 recommend showing the work that you describe (such as the  
  portraits,
 giclee prints, on the road series) on the screen in a small  
  window,
 or even filling the whole window for a few seconds when you  
  mention
 them. I would even include one of your poems (possibly  
  scrolling up
 the screen), especially if you plan to incorporate those into
your work.

 I personally don't like the video in a box with the darkened
area. It
 feels like my computer is being taken over. I would also use  
  a flash
 player and have a way for people to comment and share the video
 through an embed URL link. It's all about gettin' viral.  
  There are a
 number of free or inexpensive flash players, or you could use a
 network or video sharing site, but make sure you read the fine
print.
 I think you have it just available in Quicktime, which will  
  limit
the
 number of non-Mac users who can view it without downloading a
plug-in.

 I would also try to keep it under 3 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: July - My Month of Youtube

2007-06-29 Thread schlomo rabinowitz
Well, though I watch more than upload video to YT, here's my url: 
http://youtube.com/user/schlomo

Though I'm not sure why, if you already subscribe to me, that you would
subscribe to my youtube channel.  They are all the same vids as on my site,
just not ALL the videos on my site.  So, I dunno, yeah.

If you search for me on vimeo, I actually post some vimeo-specific vids over
there.

Also, here is one of my favorite creators over there, though he is
definitely an aquired taste:
http://youtube.com/user/JohnnieTV

Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://weknowhow.tv
http://winkshow.com
http://hatfactory.net



On 6/28/07, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   I'm:
 http://youtube.com/slowhello

 Add! subscribe! friend! me or whatever it is one does on YT! I'll look for
 y'all too.

 All I have up is one Trace Garden video, but I'm going into upload
 overdrive
 shortly. I'm also launching a personal vlog next week and will put those
 on
 YouTube as well - but maybe a different account. Trying to decide whether
 to
 separate my conceptual projects from the personal on YT or if its worth
 the
 bother.

 I jsut discovered I'm also on YT via an old friend who uploaded stroby
 grainy old clips of me doing a live noise set a log time ago in
 the
 record store he used to run. A *very* strange feeling to run across that.
 I
 barely recognize myself.

 Brook

 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com vlog links are here
 __

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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Adam Quirk, Wreck Salvage
I've been surprised by all the vitriol.  I'd have thought that Podtech would
have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with their
paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to circle-jerk
at.

Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First?  Once you put something online,
you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow hovering above
your house.  It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of
experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences.  I think especially
in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if anyone has a
claim to some money it would be her.  If someone else made a recording of a
song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that recording, I'd
likely be the one to receive them.  But I wouldn't demand them.  Something
just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other people for
services that they weren't hired to provide.

Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional copyright, but
pretty silly.

I'm heading out of town now so I won't be able to respond to any shit slung
my way for a while :)

P.S. Lan, you're a badass photog, I'm glad I found your work via this mess.

-Adam


On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens?

 This group does some very cool things and discovers news worthy
 information all the time and this has the two side talking.

 It sounds like something is going to happen and that this will come
 to a settlement but I don't think that will happen untill after the
 4th of July so can we pause for a little while, bring it back up
 later if we need to and move on to some fun stuff like What iPhone
 line is Steve Garfield standing in?  or Why is Ask a Ninja going to
 Israel ?



 Tim

 Tim Street
 Creator/Executive Producer
 French Maid TV
 The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
 http://frenchmaidtv.com
 Subscribe for FREE on
 ahref=http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes  target=_blankiTunes/a






 On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Devlon Duthie wrote:

  I'm with Carl.
 
  If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy
  be more
  effective?
 
  also, just saying :)
 
  --
  -Devlon
 
  http://devlonduthie.com | http://mefeedia.com | http://node-64.com/
  blog
  MSN: du.th.ied
  AIM: devlond
 
  -Original Message-
  From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
  Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
  To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?
 
  I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan
  deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but
  to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit. Okay, so
  Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?
 
  I'm just sayin'...
 
  Carl
 
  Carl Weaver
  Photographer
  http://www.carlweaver.com
  http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips
  and more
  http://dcmetrostories.com - DC Metro Stories: Stories about the
  people,
  places
  and events in the DC Metro area
  http://nextlifeintheafternoon.com - A Journey Through Thailand
 
  Michael Sullivan wrote:
  
   no comment
  
   except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort
  to pay
  lan
   before podtech does.
   care for some competition, podtech?
  
   lan, how much do we need to raise?
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 



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 Yahoo! Groups Links






-- 
Adam Quirk
Wreck  Salvage
551.208.4644
Brooklyn, NY
http://wreckandsalvage.com


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Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon Europe 2007?

2007-06-29 Thread joel
Hey all -

Raymond and I are working to get www.vlogeurope.com up and running with
valid data for this year's vlogeurope.  Yes:  Heidelberg, Germany
- September 1 (conference) September 2 (picknic).  We'll try to have more
info to everyone as soon as we move our asses to get it, and our fingers to
type it.

Hope to see you all there!

Joel


-- 
feel the vlove!

joel
http://joelart.blogspot.com


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[videoblogging] New York Times Article on Changing Photography Rules for City

2007-06-29 Thread ilanadonna
Hey all,

Did everyone see today's New York Times article on how the Mayor 
wants to change photography rules for the city?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?
_r=1oref=slogin

First of all, this is probably one of those laws that will be struck 
down in court as a First Amendment violation. But apart from a 
possible rescue by the ACLU or other activists, I'm concerned about 
photographers in general if these rules are adopted. The new rules 
are so complex that police could find a way to arrest just about 
anyone with a camera if they wanted. I'm sure photographers at 
protests will be targeted, considering how hostile the police were 
during the RNC convention protests in '04. 

I'd encourage everyone to all call the mayor  complain about these 
new proposed rules! 

Here are a couple of numbers:
The NYC Mayor's office of film (212) 489-6710
The NYC Mayor's office at (212) 639-9675 

Talk show host/documentary filmmaker Alex Jones (the guy who did the 
film Martial Law on the '04 RNC protests here in NYC) is suggesting 
that people also call Bloomberg Media at (212) 318-2000. He suspects 
that Bloomberg wants to give his big media outlets an edge over the 
independent press, and Jones wants people to complain to Bloomberg's 
company that the new rules would restrict free speech. 


Ilana 
http://www.downtowndiary.com




[videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Eric Rice
Creative Commons is a license that I, as a creator, can put on my
work, that tells you what you can do with it up front. You don't have
to deal with getting in touch with me and negotiating. It's done up
front. That's hardly silly, don't be trollish, dude. 3 (I say that
with love)

I think the thing that burns people the most is the names involved.
That's why (and trust me, all involved are homies), it irritates the
piss out of me that it's not handled.

ER






--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been surprised by all the vitriol.  I'd have thought that
Podtech would
 have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with their
 paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to
circle-jerk
 at.
 
 Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First?  Once you put something
online,
 you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow
hovering above
 your house.  It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of
 experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences.  I think
especially
 in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if anyone
has a
 claim to some money it would be her.  If someone else made a
recording of a
 song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that
recording, I'd
 likely be the one to receive them.  But I wouldn't demand them. 
Something
 just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other
people for
 services that they weren't hired to provide.
 
 Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional
copyright, but
 pretty silly.
 
 I'm heading out of town now so I won't be able to respond to any
shit slung
 my way for a while :)
 
 P.S. Lan, you're a badass photog, I'm glad I found your work via
this mess.
 
 -Adam
 
 
 On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens?
 
  This group does some very cool things and discovers news worthy
  information all the time and this has the two side talking.
 
  It sounds like something is going to happen and that this will come
  to a settlement but I don't think that will happen untill after the
  4th of July so can we pause for a little while, bring it back up
  later if we need to and move on to some fun stuff like What iPhone
  line is Steve Garfield standing in?  or Why is Ask a Ninja going to
  Israel ?
 
 
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv.com
  Subscribe for FREE on
  ahref=http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes 
target=_blankiTunes/a
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Devlon Duthie wrote:
 
   I'm with Carl.
  
   If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy
   be more
   effective?
  
   also, just saying :)
  
   --
   -Devlon
  
   http://devlonduthie.com | http://mefeedia.com | http://node-64.com/
   blog
   MSN: du.th.ied
   AIM: devlond
  
   -Original Message-
   From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
   Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's
image?
  
   I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan
   deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the infringement) but
   to raise it ourselves lets Podtech off the hook a little bit.
Okay, so
   Lan is paid - why should Podtech cough up the dough then?
  
   I'm just sayin'...
  
   Carl
  
   Carl Weaver
   Photographer
   http://www.carlweaver.com
   http://www.camerasamurai.com - Photography education, news, tips
   and more
   http://dcmetrostories.com - DC Metro Stories: Stories about the
   people,
   places
   and events in the DC Metro area
   http://nextlifeintheafternoon.com - A Journey Through Thailand
  
   Michael Sullivan wrote:
   
no comment
   
except that i bet we could organize a little crowdfunding effort
   to pay
   lan
before podtech does.
care for some competition, podtech?
   
lan, how much do we need to raise?
  
   Yahoo! Groups Links
  
  
  
 
 
 
  [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
 
 
 
 
  Yahoo! Groups Links
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Adam Quirk
 Wreck  Salvage
 551.208.4644
 Brooklyn, NY
 http://wreckandsalvage.com
 
 
 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Ron Watson
  Actually, you make a pretty decent preface there for the argument  
 that
  *sales* sites should pay more for access because they make money,
  whereas the blogs, vlogs, and schlogs, hobby sites, free radio and
  video, etc etc should always have reliable, broadband, free  
 access on
  solid peered networks. I'll go for that!

Why?

That's not really the problem, that people are making money. I'm cool  
with people making money. It's the restricting access based upon  
whatever metrics the communications companies decide to legislate  
that troubles me.

Make a gazillion dollars, that's fine, but don't be using that money  
to legislate and price small content providers like us out of the game.

 Um, I think people should just pay for a service. More bandwidth costs
 more money, less bandwidth is cheaper. Trying to figure out how  
 much to
 charge by content instead of usage is ... well, there's no polite  
 way to
 say it ... pretty dumb.

 I produce the same bandwith load for ATT with 100MB of ABC  
 podcasts as
 I would getting 100MB of Dragon*ConTV ... that doesn't mean I  
 should pay
 more or less for the bandwidth used to get ABC's content, and I should
 get it at a similar speed.

 Anything else is the insertion of anti-corporate nonsense or political
 correctness into a simple business transaction between myself and a
 communications company. It's akin to saying business should pay  
 more per
 gallon for water, poor communities should get higher water  
 pressure, or
 water must go to the BrandA faucet first because they sponsor the  
 water
 company.

 I just want bandwidth in a free market economy ... that's all. If the
 company I use to get it doesn't give me proper service, then I want  
 the
 ability to get it somewhere else.

 Go tell the folks at AskANinja or SliceOfSciFi they need to pay  
 more for
 bandwidth now that they generate some revenue. Let me know how that  
 goes
 over :)

I agree to a point. I would like transactions to be business based  
without the side order of agenda, but we also need to be conscious of  
the internet as more than just a free market construct.

There are going to have to be rules. There will be regulation. The  
only question is: Which interests will be served by the make up of  
the rules?

The Free Market did wonders for TV and Cable didn't it?

Man the Free Market kicks ass in the Oil business.

That Free Market's done great for Healthcare, and I rumor has it that  
it's going to be really good for our water supply.

I mean, look what it's done for the food business.

Costs are down, prices and profits are up, but how is it all performing?

Move along... There's nothing to see here.

I think we're getting screwed by all the legislating of profit.

I think people are dying because we have been legislating for profit  
before people.

I think people starve because we legislate profit before people.

I think we cannot allow access to all of the information on the  
internet to be denied, damaged, degraded, or otherwise restricted  
based upon the profit driven needs of
big giant corporations who will be bringing everything they have to  
the table to ensure that people like us can't play on the internet of  
tomorrow.

I just hope there are more of us that are aware of that than there  
seem to be.

If the Coporate Agenda is allowed to do with the internet what is  
good for profits, we're all screwed.

Move along there's nothing to see here, and how will we know?

We'll just have to trust the simple virtue of profit.

There's more to the internet than commerce.

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast? wrote:

 On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 8:38 am, randulo wrote:
  Actually, you make a pretty decent preface there for the argument  
 that
  *sales* sites should pay more for access because they make money,
  whereas the blogs, vlogs, and schlogs, hobby sites, free radio and
  video, etc etc should always have reliable, broadband, free  
 access on
  solid peered networks. I'll go for that!
 

 Um, I think people should just pay for a service. More bandwidth costs
 more money, less bandwidth is cheaper. Trying to figure out how  
 much to
 charge by content instead of usage is ... well, there's no polite  
 way to
 say it ... pretty dumb.

 I produce the same bandwith load for ATT with 100MB of ABC  
 podcasts as
 I would getting 100MB of Dragon*ConTV ... that doesn't mean I  
 should pay
 more or less for the bandwidth used to get ABC's content, and I should
 get it at a similar speed.

 Anything else is the insertion of anti-corporate nonsense or political
 correctness into a simple business transaction between myself and a
 communications company. It's akin to saying business should pay  
 more per
 gallon for water, poor communities should get higher water  
 pressure, or
 water must go to the BrandA faucet first because 

Re: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Mike Meiser
Well... I'm glad people haven't resorted to name calling.

Got to say, while I love podtech I'm a little disapointed at their
response. The accussations about lan presenting a one sided story...
is it his responsibility to present both sides? Is that even possible?
And Scoble's negative conjecture about loosing money on the
vloggies... is an unecissary and unwarranted resentful remark toward
the whole community which reflects poorly on podtech. It is perhaps
the thing that disturbs me most about this.  Very disapointing.  As
for bringing up deaths in related people's families... very
unforetunate remark.

I don't know what other side to the story there is... The facts are
this... Podtech used lan's photo... mistakes happen... noone here
holds a grudge... but they've had more then enough time to resolve it
and haven't.

There's no need to drag the whole thing through the mud on either
side... I just hope podtech and lan can resolve the issue so we can
leave it quickly and quietly behind. I don't believe it's indicative
of any larger issue... it's not like some printing company is selling
prints of dozens of Lan's photos for hundreds of dollars each. It was
an event to promote videobloggers.

I'd hope because of that context Lan would accept an appology from
Podtech but that's up to Lan.

On a related note, perhaps this will provide some perspective.  Some
kids from Maryland got their yearbooks recently to find a slew of
their facebook pictures in them.

How's that for intellectual property theft? How would you have liked
to recieve a yearbook only to find a bunch of your pictures from your
blog in it?  Makes a somewhat subtle duotone photo in the background
of a banner seem like a relatively minor incident by comparison. Not
to diminish the injustice to Lan, but there are worse things that
could have happened.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070627/012707.shtml

I hope the matter gets resolved quickly. The only shame here is that
it hasn't been resolved already and was allowed to drag out.

Group hug? :)

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com

On 6/29/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've been surprised by all the vitriol.  I'd have thought that Podtech would
 have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with their
 paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to circle-jerk
 at.

 Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First?  Once you put something online,
 you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow hovering above
 your house.  It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of
 experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences.  I think especially
 in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if anyone has a
 claim to some money it would be her.  If someone else made a recording of a
 song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that recording, I'd
 likely be the one to receive them.  But I wouldn't demand them.  Something
 just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other people for
 services that they weren't hired to provide.

 Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional copyright, but
 pretty silly.

 I'm heading out of town now so I won't be able to respond to any shit slung
 my way for a while :)

 P.S. Lan, you're a badass photog, I'm glad I found your work via this mess.

 -Adam


 On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens?
 
  This group does some very cool things and discovers news worthy
  information all the time and this has the two side talking.
 
  It sounds like something is going to happen and that this will come
  to a settlement but I don't think that will happen untill after the
  4th of July so can we pause for a little while, bring it back up
  later if we need to and move on to some fun stuff like What iPhone
  line is Steve Garfield standing in?  or Why is Ask a Ninja going to
  Israel ?
 
 
 
  Tim
 
  Tim Street
  Creator/Executive Producer
  French Maid TV
  The Viral Video of How To's by French Maids
  http://frenchmaidtv.com
  Subscribe for FREE on
  ahref=http://www.frenchmaidtv.com/itunes  target=_blankiTunes/a
 
 
 
 
 
 
  On Jun 29, 2007, at 9:46 AM, Devlon Duthie wrote:
 
   I'm with Carl.
  
   If we want to use crowd 'weight' wouldn't an email/blog/pr frenzy
   be more
   effective?
  
   also, just saying :)
  
   --
   -Devlon
  
   http://devlonduthie.com | http://mefeedia.com | http://node-64.com/
   blog
   MSN: du.th.ied
   AIM: devlond
  
   -Original Message-
   From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   On Behalf Of Carl Weaver
   Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 8:02 AM
   To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?
  
   I have a problem with raising money for Lan on the list. Yes, Lan
   deserves his fees (and 3 times that because of the 

[videoblogging] Happy Go skateboarding day: cop v.s. skaters

2007-06-29 Thread Tim Street
Saw this on the old YouTube Today and it reminded me how good the kids have it 
these days.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=EH6AYVn2yw4

We didn't have hidden cameras when I was a kid.





Re: [videoblogging] New York Times Article on Changing Photography Rules for City

2007-06-29 Thread Brook Hinton
Evil.

Government surveillance increases by the minute, but visual journalists,
artists, documentarians and citizens lose the right to document the world
they live in unless they can a) afford it and b) formalize and plan
everything (in order to apply to shoot at some specific time and place and
purchase insurance) to the point that spontaneous life cannot be recorded
researched, visually commented upon and on and on. The NYC laws on this are
ALREADY horrible - this would be a nightmare.

To say nothing of the carte blanch police would have regarding anyone
documenting a protest, let alone an arrest during everyday life.

So very very wrong and dangerous.

And as for street photography, its the outlawing of Cartier-Bresson's
decisive moment.


Brook



___
Brook Hinton
film/video/audio art
www.brookhinton.com vlog links are here

TRACE GARDEN now available in flash format on Blip!
tracegarden.blip.tv



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[videoblogging] Re: New York Times Article on Changing Photography Rules for City

2007-06-29 Thread Shawn Carpenter
Well reading the law it looks like you can be in one place for up to
15 minutes before they can actually bust you.  It also says that you
can't be within 100 feet of where you began filming.  If I were in NYC
I would do a documentary called 101 feet.  Bring a tape measure, stay
in one place for about 13 minutes then walk 101 feet to the next
location and film another 13 minutes, do this until it becomes
completely rediculous and you have yourself not only a short film, but
also a protest to the law.

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Brook Hinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Evil.
 
 Government surveillance increases by the minute, but visual journalists,
 artists, documentarians and citizens lose the right to document the
world
 they live in unless they can a) afford it and b) formalize and plan
 everything (in order to apply to shoot at some specific time and
place and
 purchase insurance) to the point that spontaneous life cannot be
recorded
 researched, visually commented upon and on and on. The NYC laws on
this are
 ALREADY horrible - this would be a nightmare.
 
 To say nothing of the carte blanch police would have regarding anyone
 documenting a protest, let alone an arrest during everyday life.
 
 So very very wrong and dangerous.
 
 And as for street photography, its the outlawing of Cartier-Bresson's
 decisive moment.
 
 
 Brook
 
 
 
 ___
 Brook Hinton
 film/video/audio art
 www.brookhinton.com vlog links are here
 
 TRACE GARDEN now available in flash format on Blip!
 tracegarden.blip.tv
 
 
 
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Michael Verdi
On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Can we give this a rest for a week or two and see what happens?

H...
This is from Lan's post on May 14th:
After I returned home from SXSW I contacted Robert Scoble, hoping he
could put me on touch with the right person to talk about this. He
did; he forwarded my email to this person. After a couple emails back
and forth with her I sent her an invoice for licensed use of the
photograph. That was on March 20th. There was no reply for one week; I
called and emailed again. No reply again, so again I both called and
sent an email... and it has now been over a month and a half without a
single reply since the invoice was sent.

Seems like it's already been over 3 months. Shouldn't that be long
enough to figure things out?

- Verdi


Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Brian Richardson - WhatTheCast
 There are going to have to be rules. There will be regulation. The
 only question is: Which interests will be served by the make up of
 the rules?

 The Free Market did wonders for TV and Cable didn't it?

 Man the Free Market kicks ass in the Oil business.

 That Free Market's done great for Healthcare, and I rumor has it that
 it's going to be really good for our water supply.

Yes, regulation is required, but over-regulation hurts as much as none.

A lot of those businesses suffer because of additional regulation.
Oil - the government makes more on a gallon of gas than the oil company,
along with dictating the formula shipped to different parts of the
country.
TV/Cable - government regulations are why cables are a monopoly in most
markets.
Healthcare - try buying an insurance policy with just what you need for
coverage, instead of the policy with government mandated items that you
will never use.

 I think people are dying because we have been legislating for profit
 before people.

 I think people starve because we legislate profit before people.

And we do the same based on government policy.

Most of this is based on bad tax policy ... something that does not need
to get discussed on this mail list. I feel like I'm stealing FreeTalk's
show notes here :)

 There's more to the internet than commerce.

That I agree with 100% ... I hope the FTC remembers that when they legislate.

And now, back to talk about videos :)

-- 
Brian Richardson
 - http://siliconchef.com
 - http://dragoncontv.com
 - http://whatthecast.com
 - http://www.3chip.com



Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello Ron,

On 6/29/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[...]

  The Free Market did wonders for TV and Cable didn't it?

  Man the Free Market kicks ass in the Oil business.

  That Free Market's done great for Healthcare, and I rumor has it that
  it's going to be really good for our water supply.

  I mean, look what it's done for the food business.


Sorry if I'm mistakening your tone, but none of these are free
markets.  (And remember... we're talking about free and in freedom
or liberty... and not cost.)

The FCC though it's regulations, the USA government (through
Copyright law and Trademark law) as well as others, and taxes on the
people and companies involved, make it so the TV  Cable business is
not a free market.

The Oil business is not free because, at the very least, CO2 and
environmental regulations.  California even has laws that prevents you
from buying certain kinds of oil.  Taxes on the sale of oil products
and the companies themselves also make not free.

Health Care isn't free because of all the patents involved in that
industry.  The regulations against the doctors.  And taxes.

None of those are free market.


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Re: [videoblogging] New York Times Article on Changing Photography Rules for City

2007-06-29 Thread Patrick Cook
Hi everyone:

On 6/29/07, ilanadonna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey all,

  Did everyone see today's New York Times article on how the Mayor
  wants to change photography rules for the city?

  http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/nyregion/29camera.html?
  _r=1oref=slogin

  First of all, this is probably one of those laws that will be struck
  down in court as a First Amendment violation. But apart from a
  possible rescue by the ACLU or other activists, I'm concerned about
  photographers in general if these rules are adopted. The new rules
  are so complex that police could find a way to arrest just about
  anyone with a camera if they wanted. I'm sure photographers at
  protests will be targeted, considering how hostile the police were
  during the RNC convention protests in '04.

HehI suspect it'll be struck down just for being one of those
STUPID laws, many of which are now thankfully outdated.

  I'd encourage everyone to all call the mayor  complain about these
  new proposed rules!

[Phone numbers snipped]

I'll keep an eye on this one just in case either Mayor John
Hickenlooper or the Denver City Council get any bright ideas of doing
something similar for the DNC in '08.

Cheers :D

-- 
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Denver, Colorado
BLOGS  PODCASTS -
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PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/
PAT'S HEALTH  MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST -
http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/
YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
THE PAT COOK SHOW  - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow
THE PAT COOK SHOW (Blogger Page) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/
THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/


[videoblogging] Re: [theora] ffmpeg2theora 0.19 release

2007-06-29 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
A correction...

That should be 0.19...
 binaries
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.linux.bin.bz2
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.linux64.bin.bz2
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.pkg.zip
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.exe


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On 6/29/07, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello

 There's a new release of the command line Ogg Theora conversion tool
 ffmpeg2theora.  (The forwarded message is below.)

 (Remember... if you want a GUI tool for it use SUPER --
 http://www.erightsoft.net/Superdc.html )

 --
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 -- Forwarded message --
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Jun 29, 2007 3:13 PM
 Subject: [theora] ffmpeg2theora 0.19 release
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 New version of ffmpeg2theora,
 a command line tool to convert video files to Ogg Theora.

 new in version 0.19
   - use libswscale api
   - add frontend mode and a simple PythonCard Frontend
 (only in svn right now or binary for os x *)
   - support for output larger than 2GB on 32bit systems
   - fix short option -k to output Ogg Skeleton
   - other smaller fixes

 binaries
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.linux.bin.bz2
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.linux64.bin.bz2
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.pkg.zip
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.exe


 source
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.tar.bz2

   http://svn.xiph.org/tags/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19


 more info
   http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/


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Re: [videoblogging] TRUFFA A DANNO DEI MALTI PSICHIATRICI A PARMA PER 100000 EURO

2007-06-29 Thread Patrick Cook
Hi everyone:

On 6/29/07, Jay dedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 6/29/07, talento sprecato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Salve ragazzi
  a Parma è successa una cosa gravissima
  100.000 EURO SOTTRATTI AI MALATI PSICHICI DA APRTE DELL' AUSL
  ecco il video ( un pò montato male ed in bassisisma qualità ma se 
 andate oltre i primi secondi ed ascoltate la signora magari vi resta qualcosa 
 ..)
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTRDhc1D4AU

  im assuming this is spam.
  member gone.

Actually Jay I just went to the page he posted just for grins.  Turns
out he just does on YouTube what most of us do via other means - VLOG.

JFYI

Cheers :D

-- 
Pat Cook
Denver, Colorado
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AS MY WACKED OUT WORLD TURNS  - http://pchamster.livejournal.com/
PAT'S REAL DEAL VIDEO BLOG - http://patsrealdeal.livejournal.com/
PAT'S HEALTH  MEDICAL WONDERS VIDEOCAST -
http://patshealthmedicalwondersvideocast.blogspot.com/
YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/amwowttv/
THE PAT COOK SHOW  - http://www.livevideo.com/thepcshow
THE PAT COOK SHOW (Blogger Page) - http://thepctvshow.blogspot.com/
THE PAT COOK SHOW (Audio Podcast) - http://thepcradioshow.blogspot.com/


Re: [videoblogging] Vloggercon Europe 2007?

2007-06-29 Thread Lisa Rein
sounds like I'd better go! :-)

lisa


 My flight's booked to VlogEurope 07, yo.

 Jan

 On 6/27/07, RANDY MANN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 b better go to vlog eurpe becuse there wont be a vloggercon in the usa
 this
 year

 On 6/27/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  VlogEurope 2007: September 1-2 in Heidelberg,
  Germany
 
 http://www.vlogeurope.com/2007/06/20/vlogeurope-2007-september-1-2-in-heidelberg-germany/
  
  http://vlogeurope.com/
 
  On 6/27/07, Gabriel Soucheyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   HeidelbUrg or HeidelbErg ?
   and when ?
  
  
   Le 27 juin 07 à 16:34, schlomo rabinowitz a écrit :
  
VlogEurope is coming to Heidelburg Germany at that time; and is
should be a
really good time. (Last year in Milan was pretty near perfect of
 an
experience for me)
   
Do a search for VlogEurope and you should find the yahoogroup and
site.
   
Schlomo
http://schlomolog.blogspot.com
http://weknowhow.tv
http://winkshow.com
http://hatfactory.net
   
On 6/27/07, Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey gang :-)

 hey i saw a reference to vloggercon europe on
 http://vlograzor.com/
 and a date of Sat Sep 1 - Sun Sep 2
 but then nothing from a google search...

 anyone know?

 thanks!

 lisa



   
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Re: [videoblogging] Re: Check out new video blog -not getting much traffic

2007-06-29 Thread Andrew Darlow
Hi Daryl;

Try posting the direct link to the video file on your blog in a blog  
post:

http://greycoloredpainter.blogspot.com/

Your main site has no RSS feed so that's probably why it is not being  
picked up and added to the feed as an enclosure.

All the best,

Andrew

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Chief Cook: http://www.bigdiner.com




On Jun 29, 2007, at 10:46 AM, Daryl Urig wrote:

 Andrew,

 thanks again.

 I had selected rich media files, but have now selected only  
 video files, does I tunes work
 for you now?

 I am not sure about what you ment by:

 I suppose you are doing that through your blogspot blog., I am  
 not sure I am.

 Daryl

 --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Daryl:
 
  I subscribed to your feed with iTunes and no movie was in the  
 feed. I
  would defer to some of the other folks on this list about why that
  is. My guess is that it may be the format of your movie, or you may
  need to enable SmartCast in Feedburner's Optimize Control Panel  
 and
  choose only video files or any rich media file so that it
  generates an enclosure when you post a new blog post. I suppose you
  are doing that through your blogspot blog.
 
  There are low cost video flash players at http://
  www.wimpyplayer.com and there are some freeware/open source options
  as well. You can check the archives of this list for some links.
 
  There are many options out there for video sharing. One option for
  hosting is YouTube if you don't want to worry about bandwidth. There
  is also blip.tv. I would also ask some of the folks here about other
  options–I'm learning as well.
 
  All the best,
 
  Andrew
 
  -
  Andrew Darlow
  Editor, The Imaging Buffet
  http://www.imagingbuffet.com
  http://www.andrewdarlow.com
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
  On Jun 28, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Daryl Urig wrote:
 
   Andrew, those are all goood comments, I appreciate them all.
  
   I hope to impliment many of them. Does the bloging and rss feed
   look correct? I want to
   make sure I am not missing anything technical.
  
   What kind of flash player would you use? What would yu use on a  
 non
   streaming server?
  
   Thanks,
   Daryl
  
   --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Darlow ad@ wrote:
   
Hi Daryl:
   
I just watched your video and looked at your work. First, I  
 really
like your paintings-especially the color work. I didn't know  
 why you
were painted grey until I looked at your work after watching the
   video.
   
The self-interview, in my opinion, is very entertaining, but  
 also a
little off-putting. Some people might think you are being a  
 bit too
silly for a painter, but others might like the fact that you are
letting your guard down and not being a stuffy artist. I'm a
photographer and have seen many different sites with  
 galleries. I
like how you present your work, though I would choose a  
 background
color other than white. I think your keepsake portraits are a  
 great
idea, and the video definitely gives people a more personal  
 look at
you–which might entice them to open their drawers for you  
 as well
(inside joke for those who have seen the video).
   
You might consider turning the camera toward a family member  
 who is
watching you and laughing (to just make light of the whole
   thing), or
you can do outtakes showing you getting made up. I would also
recommend showing the work that you describe (such as the  
 portraits,
giclee prints, on the road series) on the screen in a small  
 window,
or even filling the whole window for a few seconds when you  
 mention
them. I would even include one of your poems (possibly  
 scrolling up
the screen), especially if you plan to incorporate those into
   your work.
   
I personally don't like the video in a box with the darkened
   area. It
feels like my computer is being taken over. I would also use  
 a flash
player and have a way for people to comment and share the video
through an embed URL link. It's all about gettin' viral.  
 There are a
number of free or inexpensive flash players, or you could use a
network or video sharing site, but make sure you read the fine
   print.
I think you have it just available in Quicktime, which will  
 limit
   the
number of non-Mac users who can view it without downloading a
   plug-in.
   
I would also try to keep it under 3 minutes. I'm sure others  
 here
will have other suggestions on time.
   
I'd also invite people to take a look at your site on other  
 groups
like this one. I moderate one for digital artists (mostly  
 people who
make inkjet prints and other prints for sale and/or exhibition).
   Just
search for Digital-fineart on groups.yahoo.com.
   
Hope 

[videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Steve Watkins
I thought it was an advert for a competition involving Seagate, not
just a banner promoting the event itself?

Theres an interesting array of possible uses of copyrighted material
without permission, that some people will argue should be allowed, and
that make the inflexibility of copyright seem very silly and creative
commons less silly, though still not perfect. Ive not seen adverts
feature in this grey area before, they are pretty much the most
commercial use of material that someone could make, I would have thought.

Its not crime of the century and there are certainly companies doing
things which are potentially much more harmful/unfair to creators than
this incident, but its still enough to instill a sense of injustice in
some people, and for people to want to see a resolution, and groan 
moan at podtechs responses so far.

Im struggling even to find much to speculate about why there hasnt
been an amicable solution already. Either the price is considered
wrong, or podtech belive they have the rights to photographs taken at
the event, or they thought they already had some other deal, or they
dont think it is his photo? Whatever, I would think its far easier for
this situation to be happily resolved than it will be to get a result
with wider issues of creators getting a fair share of pie in the world
of online video, a battle thats far more daunting.

Cheers

Steve Elbows
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Mike Meiser
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well... I'm glad people haven't resorted to name calling.
 
 Got to say, while I love podtech I'm a little disapointed at their
 response. The accussations about lan presenting a one sided story...
 is it his responsibility to present both sides? Is that even possible?
 And Scoble's negative conjecture about loosing money on the
 vloggies... is an unecissary and unwarranted resentful remark toward
 the whole community which reflects poorly on podtech. It is perhaps
 the thing that disturbs me most about this.  Very disapointing.  As
 for bringing up deaths in related people's families... very
 unforetunate remark.
 
 I don't know what other side to the story there is... The facts are
 this... Podtech used lan's photo... mistakes happen... noone here
 holds a grudge... but they've had more then enough time to resolve it
 and haven't.
 
 There's no need to drag the whole thing through the mud on either
 side... I just hope podtech and lan can resolve the issue so we can
 leave it quickly and quietly behind. I don't believe it's indicative
 of any larger issue... it's not like some printing company is selling
 prints of dozens of Lan's photos for hundreds of dollars each. It was
 an event to promote videobloggers.
 
 I'd hope because of that context Lan would accept an appology from
 Podtech but that's up to Lan.
 
 On a related note, perhaps this will provide some perspective.  Some
 kids from Maryland got their yearbooks recently to find a slew of
 their facebook pictures in them.
 
 How's that for intellectual property theft? How would you have liked
 to recieve a yearbook only to find a bunch of your pictures from your
 blog in it?  Makes a somewhat subtle duotone photo in the background
 of a banner seem like a relatively minor incident by comparison. Not
 to diminish the injustice to Lan, but there are worse things that
 could have happened.
 
 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070627/012707.shtml
 
 I hope the matter gets resolved quickly. The only shame here is that
 it hasn't been resolved already and was allowed to drag out.
 
 Group hug? :)
 
 -Mike
 mmeiser.com/blog
 mefeedia.com
 
 On 6/29/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've been surprised by all the vitriol.  I'd have thought that
Podtech would
  have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with
their
  paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to
circle-jerk
  at.
 
  Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First?  Once you put
something online,
  you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow
hovering above
  your house.  It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of
  experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences.  I think
especially
  in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if
anyone has a
  claim to some money it would be her.  If someone else made a
recording of a
  song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that
recording, I'd
  likely be the one to receive them.  But I wouldn't demand them. 
Something
  just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other
people for
  services that they weren't hired to provide.
 
  Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional
copyright, but
  pretty silly.
 
  I'm heading out of town now so I won't be able to respond to any
shit slung
  my way for a while :)
 
  P.S. Lan, you're a badass photog, I'm glad I found your work via
this mess.
 
  -Adam
 
 
  On 6/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[videoblogging] First in the Apple Store for an iPhone

2007-06-29 Thread Len Edgerly
Man oh man this was fun. I ended up being first in line when I showed
up at the Cambridge, Mass., Apple store at 3 a.m. today. Here's the
video I shot when the grate went up and the police waved us in at 6 pm:
 
http://lenchronicles.blogspot.com/2007/06/entering-iphone-gates-of-paradise.html

--Len Edgerly

http://LenEdgerly.com



[videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Lan Bui
That is a very nice thought but I do not think it is appropriate for
others to raise money for this. The community did no wrong and should
not have to pay.

-Lan
www.LanBui.com



[videoblogging] atina chile first 1-minute-festival

2007-06-29 Thread pepa
friends:
atina chile calls for entries for its 1-minute-video festival. atina chile (
http://www.atinachile.cl/content) is a huge citizen community here in chile.

you can participate uploading your entry to blip.tv (tag: megustachile),
under creative commons, and sending an email to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the url of the blip page where the
video is published.
the thema is 'me gusta chile' (i like chile).
on september 13th, 60 videos will be screened in biblioteca de santiago.
in relation with the festival, workshops about how to vlog will be held.

this is a beautiful initiative to promote the spanish speaking
videoblogging, in a good way.
more: http://tinyurl.com/36nk3j

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[videoblogging] Static wordpress homepage with latest posts section?

2007-06-29 Thread caminofilm
Hi

I want to set up my vlog with a static homepage that also has a
section that shows my latest posts.

I tested one plugin, but it only display RSS text. Is there a solution
that allows me to display latest video posts?

mark
overlander.tv



[videoblogging] Fwd: [theora] ffmpeg2theora 0.19 release

2007-06-29 Thread Charles Iliya Krempeaux
Hello

There's a new release of the command line Ogg Theora conversion tool
ffmpeg2theora.  (The forwarded message is below.)

(Remember... if you want a GUI tool for it use SUPER --
http://www.erightsoft.net/Superdc.html )

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 http://vlograzor.com/


-- Forwarded message --
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Jun 29, 2007 3:13 PM
Subject: [theora] ffmpeg2theora 0.19 release
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


New version of ffmpeg2theora,
a command line tool to convert video files to Ogg Theora.

new in version 0.19
  - use libswscale api
  - add frontend mode and a simple PythonCard Frontend
(only in svn right now or binary for os x *)
  - support for output larger than 2GB on 32bit systems
  - fix short option -k to output Ogg Skeleton
  - other smaller fixes

binaries
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.linux.bin.bz2
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.linux64.bin.bz2
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.pkg.zip
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.18.exe


source
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19.tar.bz2

  http://svn.xiph.org/tags/ffmpeg2theora/ffmpeg2theora-0.19


more info
  http://v2v.cc/~j/ffmpeg2theora/


j

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RE: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Robert Scoble
Here's what happened.

 

An employee made a mistake. We recognize that a mistake was made. It was
easy to see how a mistake was made since usually people in the community
who, when invited to an event we held usually give us photos that were
snapped at our events for free and it's easy to miss the copyright on
Flickr. Thomas Hawk, for instance, takes lots of photos at our events and
gives them to us for free since he's appreciative for the community work we
do.

 

We asked around what a photo like the one that we used by Lan Bui was worth.
I asked several professional photographers, the average fee was $300. Lan
was not commissioned to take photos and an employee made a mistake by using
a photo and not making sure we had the rights to use it before using it.

 

But Lan wants $3,000.

 

We have offered Lan something between those two prices which we feel is fair
($1,000 is the price I saw offered by PodTech CEO John Furrier, which is
more than 3x what most professionals in the marketplace charge for this kind
of work). 

 

Lan wants $3,000. He believes his work is worth that and believes that there
isn't room for negotiation on this issue.

 

So we're at an impass.

 

I'm personally sorry for the whole way this thing has been handled, though,
and still would like to find a way to get the two parties to reach closure
on this problem.

 

I do want to make sure Lan gets compensated properly for his intellectual
property, but we want to reach a fair price and one that's based on what
professionals expect.

 

Robert Scoble

 

###

 

From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Mike Meiser
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2007 1:58 P
To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

 

Well... I'm glad people haven't resorted to name calling.

Got to say, while I love podtech I'm a little disapointed at their
response. The accussations about lan presenting a one sided story...
is it his responsibility to present both sides? Is that even possible?
And Scoble's negative conjecture about loosing money on the
vloggies... is an unecissary and unwarranted resentful remark toward
the whole community which reflects poorly on podtech. It is perhaps
the thing that disturbs me most about this. Very disapointing. As
for bringing up deaths in related people's families... very
unforetunate remark.

I don't know what other side to the story there is... The facts are
this... Podtech used lan's photo... mistakes happen... noone here
holds a grudge... but they've had more then enough time to resolve it
and haven't.

There's no need to drag the whole thing through the mud on either
side... I just hope podtech and lan can resolve the issue so we can
leave it quickly and quietly behind. I don't believe it's indicative
of any larger issue... it's not like some printing company is selling
prints of dozens of Lan's photos for hundreds of dollars each. It was
an event to promote videobloggers.

I'd hope because of that context Lan would accept an appology from
Podtech but that's up to Lan.

On a related note, perhaps this will provide some perspective. Some
kids from Maryland got their yearbooks recently to find a slew of
their facebook pictures in them.

How's that for intellectual property theft? How would you have liked
to recieve a yearbook only to find a bunch of your pictures from your
blog in it? Makes a somewhat subtle duotone photo in the background
of a banner seem like a relatively minor incident by comparison. Not
to diminish the injustice to Lan, but there are worse things that
could have happened.

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20070627/012707.shtml

I hope the matter gets resolved quickly. The only shame here is that
it hasn't been resolved already and was allowed to drag out.

Group hug? :)

-Mike
mmeiser.com/blog
mefeedia.com

On 6/29/07, Adam Quirk, Wreck  Salvage [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:quirk%40wreckandsalvage.com  wrote:
 I've been surprised by all the vitriol. I'd have thought that Podtech
would
 have built up a couple brownie points with y'all by now, what with their
 paying you real money, and hosting awards shows for us all to circle-jerk
 at.

 Maybe the lesson here is to get paid First? Once you put something online,
 you don't own it anymore than you can claim to own a rainbow hovering
above
 your house. It's in the public consciousness, part of the firehose of
 experiences that we all consume, transitory experiences. I think
especially
 in this case since it's a digital photo of Casey McKinnon, if anyone has a
 claim to some money it would be her. If someone else made a recording of a
 song I was playing, and royalties were to be paid for that recording, I'd
 likely be the one to receive them. But I wouldn't demand them. Something
 just sits wrong with me when I hear about people billing other people for
 services that they weren't hired to provide.

 Creative Commons is pretty silly, not as silly as traditional 

Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Ron Watson
Well quite a talk... probably not best to discuss this further, as it  
does get quite off topic.

I knew I should have put supercommas around ''free markets', but I  
kind of take the fact that 'free markets' aren't free, for granted.

You are right, of course, that these are regulated markets. But I do  
find it funny that the only qualms about the regulation come from the  
end of harming profit. In fact the 'regulations' you mentioned are  
specific checks put into place to protect people. What about the  
regulations that are put into place that protect profit. The 'biggest  
supplier' clauses, the subsidies to the Oil and Gas industries, or  
the 'help' in the form of lax regulation or 'voluntary' regulations  
that corporate sponsored government gives to business.

Those seem to be OK, and those are often posed as solutions to the  
problem.

Absolute necessities for living should not be based on markets. When  
it is a must for life, to put it into a unregulated market is nothing  
short of extortion, and if absolute necessities do find their way  
into markets, as they have, they should be heavily regulated to  
protect citizens.

I'm saying that regulating the internet in the favor of  
communications companies and corporate profits is a bad idea. That's  
all. That's a major part of what's already wrong with our markets,  
and that's the thing that makes markets so dangerous to people.

Cheers,
Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:02 PM, Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

 Hello Ron,

 On 6/29/07, Ron Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [...]

  The Free Market did wonders for TV and Cable didn't it?
 
  Man the Free Market kicks ass in the Oil business.
 
  That Free Market's done great for Healthcare, and I rumor has it  
 that
  it's going to be really good for our water supply.
 
  I mean, look what it's done for the food business.
 

 Sorry if I'm mistakening your tone, but none of these are free
 markets. (And remember... we're talking about free and in freedom
 or liberty... and not cost.)

 The FCC though it's regulations, the USA government (through
 Copyright law and Trademark law) as well as others, and taxes on the
 people and companies involved, make it so the TV  Cable business is
 not a free market.

 The Oil business is not free because, at the very least, CO2 and
 environmental regulations. California even has laws that prevents you
 from buying certain kinds of oil. Taxes on the sale of oil products
 and the companies themselves also make not free.

 Health Care isn't free because of all the patents involved in that
 industry. The regulations against the doctors. And taxes.

 None of those are free market.

 -- 
 Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc. http://ChangeLog.ca/

 All the Vlogging News on One Page
 http://vlograzor.com/

 



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Re: [videoblogging] The FTC sucks...

2007-06-29 Thread Ron Watson
It will help the consumer, but hurt the citizen.

There is a big difference between getting your shit that you bought  
delivered and getting access to stuff that is out there.

Delivery vs Access... That's the frames we're working with guys.

ATT wants to be able to 'deliver you the (their) world', and people  
like you and I just want access.

I've been through this before on this list, and I still believe that  
it holds true.

If the debate is framed in terms of 'delivery': products being  
bought, sold, packaged shipped, etc. If this is the frame for the  
debate, we are in trouble.

Our stuff just gets in the way of people getting stuff that 'they  
actually paid for'. Quite literally, by definition, our kind of media  
impacts the 'consumer'.

It's all going to make sense because it's true. Net Neutrality does  
impact the consumer. It makes them have to pay less. Consumers  
SPEND,SPEND,SPEND, not save, save, save.

Net Neutrality is an absolute requirement if the internet is going to  
be more than an 'information market'. Without Net Neutrality, our  
information, 'all information' will become a commodity and it will be  
sold to the highest bidder, and guess what? Most real live breathing  
people will not be able to compete with the $10 Billion in quarterly  
profit of an Exxon. It's nothing for them to shell out $50K, heck  
even $500K to get good access, especially when that access is  
unchallenged.

In fact, I would even argue that for them to do business it is  
imperative that they clamp down on all the cheap and rapid  
development of today's internet. It cost more to print the literature  
for an obsolete 2 year old running IT project than it would be to pay  
a $50,000 flat fee for privileged internet access.

Get evolution to a manageable pace, restrict access and consolidate  
power. That's what the destruction of Net Neutrality offers them.

I think that the big companies can't compete in a Net Neutral  
internet. There's just too much overhead. Layers and layers of  
bureaucracy, layers and layers of costs that must be born because of  
instantaneously shifting trends in information technology. The  
internet has proven to be more than an information market. We are  
more than consumers.

Citizens require access to good information.

Consumers pay to have information delivered.

Access is more important than delivery.

I'd love to talk more about this...

Cheers,

Ron Watson
http://k9disc.blip.tv
http://k9disc.com
http://pawsitivevybe.com/vlog
http://pawsitivevybe.com



On Jun 27, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Heath wrote:

 Like anyone here on this group didn't know this but look at the last
 line from this article

 WASHINGTON - The Federal Trade Commission on Wednesday urged
 policymakers to proceed cautiously on any regulation of high-speed
 Internet traffic.

 The agency issued a report addressing the controversial subject of
 network neutrality, which is the notion that all online traffic
 should be treated equally by Internet service providers.

 The issue pits consumer groups and content providers such as Google
 Inc. against large telecommunications companies, such as ATT Inc.
 and Comcast Corp. The latter group wants the option of charging
 customers more for transmitting certain content, including live
 video, faster or more reliably than other data.

 FTC Chairwoman Deborah Platt Majoras said that without evidence
 of market failure or demonstrated consumer harm, policy makers
 should be particularly hesitant to enact new regulation in this
 area. The Federal Communications Commission and Department of
 Justice have jurisdiction over high-speed Internet access, while
 Congress has considered legislation that would mandate network
 neutrality.

 The agency also said that certain practices that would discriminate
 among Internet traffic, such as prioritizing some data or providing
 exclusive deals to content providers, can benefit consumers.

 can benefit consumers.my a$$.

 Heath
 http://batmangeek.com
 http://aroundcincinnati.net


 



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Re: [videoblogging] planting a pink seed...

2007-06-29 Thread Roxanne Darling
Wish you had floaties and could come to Hawaii - we have endless hugs
happening here Halcyon...

Rox

On 6/28/07, Halcyon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






 I'm planning on doing a HugNation west coast motorhome tour in
  October. And I would LOVE to get videobloggers to come out if we stop
  in your town for a big group hug. Obviously I'll be documenting from
  the inside, but Zadi brought up how cool it would be to get the
  perspectives of other people as we roll into town.

  As of now, the anchor cities are San Diego, LA, Sacramento, SF,
  Portland, And Seattle. But we will be adding cities in-between as we
  find people to help host.

  Again, this isn't until October. But I'm excited (got my motorhome
  painted pink yesterday) and just wanted to plant a seed. tee-hee!

  -John Halcyon
  http://www.HugMobile.com
  


-- 
Roxanne Darling
o ke kai means of the sea in hawaiian
808-384-5554
http://www.twitter.com/roxannedarling

http://www.beachwalks.tv
http://www.barefeetshop.com
http://www.barefeetstudios.com


[videoblogging] Re: Hey PodTech - What's up with Lan's image?

2007-06-29 Thread Lan Bui
Robert, thank you for finally coming out and saying something for
PodTech to the community.

First, I must say that your statement:

He believes his work is worth that and believes that there isn't room
for negotiation on this issue.

Is a lie.

One of the points in my blog post was that I wanted, at minimum, to be
contacted to negotiate. In the last couple days I did negotiate down a
lot less than $3000 and even sent an updated invoice for it. So how is
this not negotiating on the issue? Remember we talked about this on
the phone, so I'm not sure why you left that out.

PodTech had the chance to ask to purchase a license to use the
photograph before it was used, at which time they would be able to set
the terms. That didn't happen. Now that they have used the photograph
already, who should set the terms?

I gave PodTech over a month to respond to my terms and they didn't.
When it was just me that was involved PodTech didn't care. When others
started to blog about it and it was giving them a bad name, then
PodTech started to care. Remember, that blog post was up for about a
month before others started take notice to it. So PodTech showed to me
they don't care about me, they only care about their image in the
public eye.

Next, I am not Thomas Hawk. Wait... Thomas Hawk? I will be the
professional and not discuss the prices that PodTech pays him.
Remember Robert, you told me how much PodTech pays him and that
reinforced my price even more!

You also said:

It was easy to see how a mistake was made since usually people in the
community who, when invited to an event we held usually give us photos
that were snapped at our events for free

I was not contacted... so how could there be a mistake regarding
permission? I also never gave (if you meant sent in to PodTech) any
photographs that this one could be mistaken for.

You also said:

it's easy to miss the copyright on Flickr

Come on, that argument is weak. Putting something in the same place on
every page on flickr makes it very easy to not miss. 

You said:

I asked several professional photographers, the average fee was
$300. and 3x what most professionals in the marketplace charge for
this kind of work

Please don't lie again. The $300 price point is for stock photography.
I even asked John where you guys got $300 from and he said that is
standard for a stock photograph. If there is a photograph with Casey
McKinnon holding Vloggies in a stock photography book somewhere I
would love to see it. The photograph that was chosen was chosen
because it had great value. It is not stock photography and I am not a
stock photographer.

Ok, lastly. Lets say I accepted $1000. Wow that sounds like a lot of
money to many people that aren't making money from their creative
work. Well this issue is not about me making money. It is about
setting a precedent. 

If we allow companies to steal work and only pay a standard small fee
when they are discovered, what is the incentive for them not steal
again? Is that what other companies should learn from this? Just take
now and deal with it later if it ever comes up. And don't worry, it
still won't cost more than if we paid up front.

To anyone else reading this: I hope this clarifies and corrects
Roberts post.

-Lan
www.LanBui.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Robert Scoble
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Here's what happened.
 
  
 
 An employee made a mistake. We recognize that a mistake was made. It was
 easy to see how a mistake was made since usually people in the community
 who, when invited to an event we held usually give us photos that were
 snapped at our events for free and it's easy to miss the copyright on
 Flickr. Thomas Hawk, for instance, takes lots of photos at our
events and
 gives them to us for free since he's appreciative for the community
work we
 do.
 
  
 
 We asked around what a photo like the one that we used by Lan Bui
was worth.
 I asked several professional photographers, the average fee was
$300. Lan
 was not commissioned to take photos and an employee made a mistake
by using
 a photo and not making sure we had the rights to use it before using it.
 
  
 
 But Lan wants $3,000.
 
  
 
 We have offered Lan something between those two prices which we feel
is fair
 ($1,000 is the price I saw offered by PodTech CEO John Furrier, which is
 more than 3x what most professionals in the marketplace charge for
this kind
 of work). 
 
  
 
 Lan wants $3,000. He believes his work is worth that and believes
that there
 isn't room for negotiation on this issue.
 
  
 
 So we're at an impass.
 
  
 
 I'm personally sorry for the whole way this thing has been handled,
though,
 and still would like to find a way to get the two parties to reach
closure
 on this problem.
 
  
 
 I do want to make sure Lan gets compensated properly for his
intellectual
 property, but we want to reach a fair price and one that's based on what
 professionals expect.
 
  
 
 Robert Scoble
 
  
 




[videoblogging] Re: Static wordpress homepage with latest posts section?

2007-06-29 Thread Lan Bui
If you host with Blip.tv you may want to look at the show player. It
is really nice.

-Lan
www.LanBui.com

--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, caminofilm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 
 I want to set up my vlog with a static homepage that also has a
 section that shows my latest posts.
 
 I tested one plugin, but it only display RSS text. Is there a solution
 that allows me to display latest video posts?
 
 mark
 overlander.tv