On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 15:17:52 -0600, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote: > On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:56 PM, Eric <e...@deptj.eu> wrote: > > > > I suppose I must be an "anti-forum type" even though I have never used > > Gmane, but it does rather sound as though you are applying a somewhat > > perjorative label here. > > I make no value judgement. If you are against web forums, then you > are anti-forum. That's just grammar.
Well, OK, but "anything type" sounds to me like pigeon-holing people, which is not good - it's the "type" that changes the meaning for me. I guess we can put the difference in perception to differences in cultural and personal background. 8>< -------- >>> The arguments about mailing lists vs forums have all been had. >> >> Not in my hearing :-) > > How long have you been on this list? The last such thread was about 4 > months ago: > > > http://sqlite.1065341.n5.nabble.com/Mailing-list-shutting-down-td102466.html > > That event was the immediate spur to start this Fossil forum project, > but if you search the archives, there are multiple threads. Here's one > from about a year ago: > > > http://sqlite.1065341.n5.nabble.com/Many-ML-emails-going-to-GMail-s-SPAM-td98685.html Yes, I have those in my own archive (47 emails in two threads) but I don't think that "all been had" applies. > If you think that thread is about a Gmail-specific problem, ... I don't, but I've never seen such spams, and I haven't had a false positive for months. 8>< -------- > Meanwhile, the Fossil forum has been up for 78 days now without even > an *attempted* spam, as far as I'm aware, in part due to Fossil's > pre-existing anti-bot defenses: > > https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/doc/trunk/www/antibot.wiki I believe it. I also think it is (from my point of view) beside the point. 8>< -------- > The need for message quoting is much reduced when you've got a > properly-threaded web view. But only if you read the forum through the web view, not in the emails. 8>< -------- > > Even just reading, some of the forum emails are meaningless because > > there is no context. I know, I could follow the link to the forum to see > > the context - and then come back, and then go to the forum for a > > different context ' > > You say you've just joined, which means your mail reader doesn't > have any of the context locally, which is no different from a just-joined > mailing list. I was allowing for that. In a mailing list with mostly sensible contributors the context is right there in the same page/screen/window, while with the mail reader's thread list it's in a different place, and the forum is also in a different place (and requiring different connectivity). 8>< -------- > I do believe Fossil's email alerts system sends the proper headers to > allow threaded viewing. So do I (In-Reply-To is enough?). If I think my mail reader is missing something in threading, I can fall back to the best threader I have (the surprisingly ancient mHonArc - Zawinski algorithm I think). What the forum doesn't allow is a subthread with a "was" subject, like this one. Eric -- ms fnd in a lbry _______________________________________________ sqlite-users mailing list sqlite-users@mailinglists.sqlite.org http://mailinglists.sqlite.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sqlite-users
