>listen now - there is trance that is techno related!
>understand? i dont know where you are coming from but from what i
>understand techno and trance are quite related when it comes to the core
>of the music
>maybe when you think of trance you think of paul oakenfold or sasha, you
>know? that is not the trance i am talking about

It's interesting as 'trance' has changed in its definition over time so that
a diversity of artists and music from different  subcultures and generations
now goes under that title. I remember someone saying that Waveform
Transmission Vol 1 was 'trancey' - I still don't hear that. But now when
people say 'techno trance' I think of someone like Timo Maas - commercial
trance with elements of commercial techno, very derivative. Even Seb
Fontaine is going down that route. It may be a personal thing, but I ain't
feeling it. And, as for Oliver Lieb, I put him, rightly and wrongly, in the
same bracket as Moby. I just don't get him at all. The most soul-less
'underground' DJ and producer I have ever heard. 

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