i am understanding your points you do not want any music on this list unless it is "techno"??? what is techno? because it comes from detroit? well then what if i mention something like drexciya "bubble metropolis"?? that is a detroit record with trancey sounds - mad mike banks has made a lot of trancey techno - it is techno but there is always an underlying trance reference - anyways really you are not understanding MY POINT - i can understand yours but you cannot understand mine - whether you want to escape the "others music" or not underneath you really cannot because it all connects somewhere probably this is why Derrick May gets mad and does not want to release new music - because he knows that people are getting too far into "techno image" i am techno and i am by far the best, rather than techno was created for all people not just us who are the greater ones - maybe we should get some of Derrick May's views on this list to see what he thinks? (since he is the Godfather and all) Dustin
On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:20:14 PDT "K Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Missing the POINT entirely, including my point in sending you a > PRIVATE > e-mail. . . > > Listen to whatever you'd like, but please stop posting it here. > > Guess this is what that "Block Sender" button is for. . . > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [313] Re: What is up with 313 > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:22:37 -0400 > > thanks i understand what you are saying > i am interested in music, but deep down if others do not have the > same > understanding as me for music then how can i take any music > recommendations they say seriously?? if someone is not on the same > level, > then obviously i should question whether their musical insight is > the > best, if at all good > yes i realize what you are saying about staying on topic - it was my > intention, but others cannot see how what i am saying is related at > all > (which is where the debate starts) > is it because they are into music, or simply because they are > following > rules?? because to me rules are not simply enough to keep me > listening to > a particular format of music for any length of time > dustin > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:14:42 PDT "K Hawkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > Some friendly advice or a friendly request (first, notice that > I'm > > sending > > this just to you, rather than the whole list, so no one has to > read > > or weed > > out yet another post on this): > > > > Plain and simple, this list is about Detroit techno, not trance. > > Please > > don't post to this list about trance or other unrelated topics, > > particularly > > since some subscribers are limited in time or disk space. > > Nothing wrong with liking trance (though I don't), this just > isn't > > the place > > to debate it; it's great to appreciate other styles of music, but > > this isn't > > the place to discuss 'em. Similarly, no one should respond to you > > ABOUT > > trance, especially as rudely as some people did. > > > > Really, if a number of people point out that your post was > off-topic > > and > > unappreciated, there's nothing you can do but agree and not take > it > > personally or make it personal--just stop the series of posts. > Your > > last > > handful of posts were no doubt well-intended, but "I'm sorries" > and > > "That's > > what I was saying," followed by more on trance, were just as > > unnecessary. > > > > As in real life, please be polite enough to respect the > conversation > > you're > > walking in on and its participants. As in real life, if > > in'expressing your > > opinion' you manage to annoy a whole roomful of people, you might > > want to > > stop for a moment and ponder why. Don't post off-topic, and if > you > > accidentally do, accept that you may have been wrong, rather than > > continuing > > and letting it escalate into this sort of squabbling. > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [313] Re: What is up with 313 > > Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 14:50:58 -0400 > > > > sorry to be continuing this thread, i am finished now > > from my feelings old spicelab music does have soul - it is very > > lush, > > beautiful sounding music - > > listen to "falling" by spicelab - you will see what i mean > > if you arent willing to listen to other music besides "your > music" > > then > > obviously you wont be able to see what i am talking about > > it seems that people are openminded enough to listen to techno, > but > > then > > fall into the genre trap again despising all other music besides > > "what is > > theirs" - > > dustin > > > > On Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:55:17 GMT "0 0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > writes: > > > >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 13:51:46 -0400 > > > >From: Dustin A Sledgianowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Subject: Re: [313] What Is Up With 313? > > > > > > >maybe everyone is bored or something > > > >theyve talked about too much techno > > > > > > Well thats what this list *is* about! > > > > > > >anyways i have something to talk about > > > > > > > >is anyone into techno-trance?? or is that like taboo or > > something? > > > anyway > > > >- i like listening to some old spicelab stuff - like "we got > > spice" > > > or > > > >"falling" > > > >it is produced by oliver lieb, he makes more hard and > > progressive > > > trance > > > >these days > > > > > > <snip> > > > > > > >listen now - there is trance that is techno related! > > > >understand? i dont know where you are coming from but from > what > > i > > > >understand techno and trance are quite related when it comes > to > > the > > > core > > > >of the music > > > > > > What the fuck does that mean? How? > > > Proper techno is deep, soulful and funky and trance is Souless > > and > > > funkless! > > > > > > >maybe when you think of trance you think of paul oakenfold or > > > sasha, you > > > >know? that is not the trance i am talking about - obviously > some > > of > > > you > > > >people dont listen to much trance - i will give you some > > examples > > > of > > > >where trance meets techno - black dog - > > > > > > How the fuck can you give this as an example when you site > > Spicelab > > > and > > > Oliver Lieb!? > > > It doesn't make sense.. > > > > > > >the core of the sound is where it > > > >meets your feelings - so i feel that any music that is core > > music > > > is art, > > > >FEELINGS - this is what music is about - feelings, so to me > it > > > >doesnt matter how much yo know about music, but only if you > > listen > > > to it > > > >with deep feeling because that is where music meets the soul > > > So where does the Oliver 'Ain't got the funk' Lieb come into > this > > > then? > > > There is no feeling or depth at all! > > > > > > I think there is a confusion over the 'terminology' used. > > > Hypnotic is the way I look at it..if I asked for some trancey > > techno > > > in the > > > local > > > record shop I'd probably be given some right shit. > > > > > > zip > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! > > Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! > > Try it today - there's no risk! 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