Some brief opinions: I think UR are totally Hardcore due to the fact that they make uncompromising music, that to me is the essence of what it is to be hardcore - whereas what is tagged as hardcore is generally just mainstream cheese sped up.
Just 'cos its fast don't make it hardcore I know is probably setting foot down the much travelled 'but what does X really _mean_?' road, but ... neil On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, [iso-8859-1] Nick Walsh wrote: > Some of UR's early stuff was played by UK hardcore > dj's back in the early 90's. I'm talking about early > hardcore tho... I heard Jumpin Jack Frost play a bit > of UR stuff back in the day and Grooverider, I'm sure > there were a few others too... > > I'm not talking about gabber tho... I mean proper > hardcore, hardcore's degenerated over the years:( > > l8r, > Nick(Dj Pacific:) > > --- Roland van Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 12:47 07/29/2000 -0400, Jean-Michel Lavergne > > wrote: > > >If i translate in English: Underground resistance > > are the other side of > > >Detroit techno. Under U.R., Jeff Mills and Mad Mike > > created radicals > > >hardcore dance titles that nobody had done. > > > > They did some revolutionary things, but to put a > > hardcore label on it... naaah! > > > > >This simple and repetitive type of techno had a big > > impact in Europe. > > > > Simple? Repetitive? Everything but that! > > And yes, it had his impact. But not only in Europe. > > > > Try to find the UR compilation CD (LP?) Revolution > > for Change and hear for > > yourself. > > > > >This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore > > or trance forms, with > > >a lot less quality. > > > > Do you have examples of 'well-known' UR rip-offs? > > I can't think of any. > > > > >Anyone have an opinion on this? > > > > I wonder what your opinion is about the text. Since > > you've heard about UR I > > reckon you have heard records of UR (and the label). > > Do you think UR is hardcore? Because when somebody > > refers to hardcore I > > always make the link to gabber and the likes. And UR > > is certainly no gabber > > (or hardcore, which it is called nowadays). > > > > >I don't know much of Detroit music history, > > > > Buy Dan Sicko's (also a member of 313) book Techno > > Rebels. > > > > > and even less knowledge of UR in Europe. > > > > Trust me. Europe knows about the existance of UR :) > > > > Which nono made up that in the first place? > > > > Roland > > (Never ever mention the *rance word again! ;-) > > > > > > *=- > > > > "We are all nothing. Life is meaningless. I love my > > job." > > > > urL : http://www.mp3.com/scout303 > > urL : http://listen.to/scout > > url : http://www.rolandvanoorschot.com > > icQ : 1D1243 (hexadecimal) > > > > -=* > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >