On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, xx xx wrote: > And then ? Is it because a hardcore Dj plays UR tracks that UR make Hardcore > ? > Han ...!!! > Anyway, speaking of Hardcore in term of Extreme ok, whatever is the subject, > fashion victims and people who are unable to qualify something use to say > "hardcore" could be art, films,etc...music,we have seen that in Hip Hop, > rap, house, rock, techno, jungle... > But speaking of Hardcore music, there is a consensus, which is 200 bpm for a > hardcore track. > I'm still seeking when UR make tracks at 200 BPM......with trashy, noisy, > nasty sounds.
oldschool rave hardcore was much closer to current techno bpms than the current deathmetal-created-with-a-909 stuff. i can definitely see the connection in some of the older UR stuff, like the previously mentioned Riot EP (is that Mad Mike doing the hip-house-sounding rap on "Panic"?) glyn