And then ? Is it because a hardcore Dj plays UR tracks that UR make Hardcore
?
Han ...!!!
Anyway, speaking of Hardcore in term of Extreme ok, whatever is the subject,
fashion victims and people who are unable to qualify something use to say
"hardcore" could be art, films,etc...music,we have seen that in Hip Hop,
rap, house, rock, techno, jungle...
But speaking of Hardcore music, there is a consensus, which is 200 bpm for a
hardcore track.
I'm still seeking when UR make tracks at 200 BPM......with trashy, noisy,
nasty sounds.
From: Nick Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Roland van Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] UR in Europe
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 05:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
Some of UR's early stuff was played by UK hardcore
dj's back in the early 90's. I'm talking about early
hardcore tho... I heard Jumpin Jack Frost play a bit
of UR stuff back in the day and Grooverider, I'm sure
there were a few others too...
I'm not talking about gabber tho... I mean proper
hardcore, hardcore's degenerated over the years:(
l8r,
Nick(Dj Pacific:)
--- Roland van Oorschot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
At 12:47 07/29/2000 -0400, Jean-Michel Lavergne
> wrote:
> >If i translate in English: Underground resistance
> are the other side of
> >Detroit techno. Under U.R., Jeff Mills and Mad Mike
> created radicals
> >hardcore dance titles that nobody had done.
>
> They did some revolutionary things, but to put a
> hardcore label on it... naaah!
>
> >This simple and repetitive type of techno had a big
> impact in Europe.
>
> Simple? Repetitive? Everything but that!
> And yes, it had his impact. But not only in Europe.
>
> Try to find the UR compilation CD (LP?) Revolution
> for Change and hear for
> yourself.
>
> >This style have been copyed under a lot of hardcore
> or trance forms, with
> >a lot less quality.
>
> Do you have examples of 'well-known' UR rip-offs?
> I can't think of any.
>
> >Anyone have an opinion on this?
>
> I wonder what your opinion is about the text. Since
> you've heard about UR I
> reckon you have heard records of UR (and the label).
> Do you think UR is hardcore? Because when somebody
> refers to hardcore I
> always make the link to gabber and the likes. And UR
> is certainly no gabber
> (or hardcore, which it is called nowadays).
>
> >I don't know much of Detroit music history,
>
> Buy Dan Sicko's (also a member of 313) book Techno
> Rebels.
>
> > and even less knowledge of UR in Europe.
>
> Trust me. Europe knows about the existance of UR :)
>
> Which nono made up that in the first place?
>
> Roland
> (Never ever mention the *rance word again! ;-)
>
>
> *=-
>
> "We are all nothing. Life is meaningless. I love my
> job."
>
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> urL : http://listen.to/scout
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>
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>
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