Hey Ken, a. it was a joke, I happen to be a blue-eyed devil myself.
b. that message was sent offlist, it is rude to post private mail. c. Race does have a lot to do with it. White folks who were raised on pop music do not want to hear soulful dance music because it is too much of a stretch from the music they normally listen to. Brothers are not going to the trance parties, it is white kids. Trance music is pop with a kick drum, it is white, dumb, and musically unadventurous people that love it. And don't tell me that Humpty does not draw a very dumb and unfunky white crowd, I know you know better. People go to motor to drink and hit on chicks, they are not there for the music, if you analyze the crowd and think about what you are seeing, you will come to the same conclusion. these days many black people do not support the stuff because it is not perceived as black enough, or soulful enough. D-wynn does not even play good records on saturdays, he plays for a motor crowd, which is dumb and white. It isn't a pleasant thing to say, but it is the truth. Another thing, and this is going to get me in huge trouble, but who even wants to go to motor anymore? Honestly, everyone I know is bored to death of the place, and the only reason anybody still goes is because there are no real alternatives. As for why Detroit doesn't support its best and brightest, I can think of a number of reasons. For one, intelligent techno people are getting old, even us newschool youngsters who were into it in the mid-90's are getting older. We have jobs, some of us have kids, and we all have responsibilities. Also, most of us who have been around long enough to know the difference between Humpty and Dwynn are starting to get bored with the whole idea. How many years to you have to hang out at the club before you start to get the idea? Third, times are changing, people are not going out like they used to, it is 1982 again, just look through a new issue of Vogue. music is changing, it isn't 84 anymore. The crowds in detroit are totally segregated, commercial radio is totally segregated, unless you are Eminem or racially anonymous (godfather) you aint getting played on WJLB. 96.3 or 89x wont play you unless you are white, or you music is completely and utterly white(re hootie) radio is putting people into their particular racial boxes, and they are not listening outside of those boxes. Black people go to the cabaret, and white people go to raves. This is hitting anybody who is playing music that does not fit into one of those boxes really hard. Techno isn't purist black music, there is a ton of white influence in Detroit Techno, it is Kraftwerk and Parliament in an elevator. It is too black for the white people who do not want to stretch, and too white for black people who want to hear "black" music at the club. The crowd that did support it is getting old, like it our not, our scene is aging, and young kids are not taking up our slack. I say it is just as well. How many more 909 records do we really need? Derrick May was right, this dance music does not have the charisma to last. If you think things are bad now, wait another 5 years. it has been beaten to death, and it isn't special anymore. oh wow, another 12" dance record, and the reverb algorithms that is in fashion this season are so much better than the reverbs they were using last year. Wow, instead of using 909 closed hats, they are using acoustic hats to play the exact same shuffled 909 rhythm. How many dance records are actually techno? aren't you sick of knowing that the break will come every 8 bars, and that there will probably be a breakdown every 64 bars...? There are all these rules for making a proper techno record, and it is just so tired and boring. I know that I sound like a bitter and jaded old-young man, I accept and acknowledge it. The reason I am such a jerk about it is because I do care about music, and I take the things that people like derrick may said about techno back in the day seriously. People are just rehashing the same f***ing record over and over for money or status. all these records that are coming put now are raping and s***ting on something that was once special and pure. Where is the real innovation, people make the same track over and over, they just process it a little different, put some different drum sounds on it, and they are lauded as geniuses. The reason people are not coming to the club anymore is because detroit is not making music that is so vibrant and irresistible that people feel they need to be at our gigs. Detroit needs to go back to Deep Space and bring something back that is so out there that people will go nuts for it. Who cares if there is another slammin dance cut, there have been a million slammin cuts, it is time for a new Detroit sound. We need to make a new style that has its roots in techno-soul, but is reaching further out. It is time for Detroit to create another futuristic musical language, cause the old one has been jacked by the rest of the world and trampled to death. How many genres have sprung from Techno, how many have come from Detroit since then? I am not hating on any Detroit producers, I just think that we need to take more risks and use a bit of imagination to make weird records that do not strictly conform to the rule book that Detroit wrote a decade ago. I know there is the talent and ability in this city to blow the world away, people just need to have the courage to go out there and make records that are not going to conform to people's expectations of Detroit or what "proper DJ techno" is in general. Take care, mt Hugh G. Blaze wrote: > > No I think racist epithets are inappropriate. And I don't think it has > anything to do with race. The question was: why has Detroit turned a deaf > ear to its best homeboys again and again. (DEMF excluded). > > > > >I think a better subject header for this post would be why to these > >cracker ass honkies ignore the soul. ;) > > > >mt > > > >Hugh G. Blaze wrote: > > > > > > Okay so Friday night, Motor Lounge, Richard Humpty Vision played and > >there > > > was reportedly a capicity crowd. > > > Saturday night D Wynn played and there's was like 300 people, tops. > > > What's going on? > > > Am I still in Detroit? > > > > >_________________________________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > >http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > > > http://profiles.msn.com. > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-- > > Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://profiles.msn.com. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.billionairesforbushorgore.com