isn't that how all the Drumcode and User stuff is made anyway? ;)
From: "darw_n" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <313@hyperreal.org>
Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 07:39:22 -0400
whoa...
so what *is* "good DJing anyways?
"no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks by
deconstructing them and putting them back together"
kinda like art, eh?
;-]
darw_n...
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|:::...
::engage::
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To: "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2001 4:28 AM
Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
>
> Am I the only person that finds the concept of this Hawtin album a bit
up
> its own arse?
> Good DJing? - no it's all done on computer
> Good tracks? - no he is 'improving' upon other people's tracks by
> deconstructing them and putting them back together.
> The result is one 90 min cut n paste track which nobody else can play,
nor
> would anyone want to.
> What's the point?
>
>
>
>
> "M. Todd Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 31/08/2001 12:14:53 AM
>
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> cc:
>
> Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
>
>
> There's nothing next level about DE9 'Closer to the Edit', only the fact
> that all the people who have done it before him
> have either 1. Never been noticed in the first place. or 2. Got noticed
> but
> have long since been forgotten.
>
> A great many producers (hip-hop, trip-hop, breaks etc.) consistently use
> this process to create tracks, Richie has simply made 31 tracks
> in the same vein, segued them together and called it 'innovation' (His
> publicist spin I'm sure..).
>
> I've listened to the recording alot lately, it sounds like an
experiment,
> no
> flow, just tracks, intended for the mind to bounce along too. The
Gescom
> MD
> was certainly much more interesting, this still posseses linearity.
>
> Rich uses what seems like a lot of Perlon (I know two or three for
sure),
> but in the most linear fashion possible. He could have made some
awesome
> breakdown edits (to let the music breathe), or to give it an added
> 'wanna-bust-a-move' attitude, but instead he kept it pretty thumping
> (making
> it seem tracky,
> and boring).
>
> Like the last DE9 this one won't be in my collection, though I'm sure
I'll
> hear enough of it everywhere I go.
>
> CHeers
> todd
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Leif Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <313@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 5:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
>
>
> > I thought that was the point of this release, to inspire volumes of
> mailing
> > list discussion attempting to catalogue all of the samples and loops
that
> he
> > uses, and what track they came from. Gotta catch 'em all or somesuch
> thing.
> >
> > The DE9 record reminds me a bit of the Minidisc project that Autechre
did
> > under their Gescom alias. It was a collection of 88 small snippets of
> tracks
> > and samples that was intended to be played with the shuffle feature of
> your
> > Minidisc player. So each time you played the disc it would result in a
> new
> > listening experience.
> >
> > I found the new DE9 to be very interesting. I can't say that it's my
> > favorite Hawtin record, but I definitely respect him for trying to
take
> > Techno to that next level.
> >
> > Leif
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Vince Woolums <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 313 List <313@hyperreal.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 10:17 AM
> > Subject: Re: [313] DE9 closer
> >
> >
> > > Hello.
> > >
> > > To my knowledge there is no 'track listing' per se, because of the
> nature
> > of
> > > the mix. Lots of track titles are included as points of reference,
but
> > the
> > > order in which they are listed is not the order in which they are
> played.
> > > There is also nothing that subscribes to the traditional
> track-after-track
> > > approach. Bits of track recur at random times throughout the mix.
> > >
> > > Makes sense, right?
> > >
> > > Vince Woolums
> > > AOL IM: vincewoolums
> > > http://jump.to/iowacityunderground
> > >
> >
> >
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