spw wrote on Mon, 17 Feb 2003 about following:

> on 2/17/03 3:28 AM, Sakari Karipuro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > i dunno. you have to first define what futuristic is. nevertheless, adam
> > has been doing what he's doing for long time and he's in same trap - he
> > doesn't evolve. 
> > 
> Let's say you go back in a time portal to the year 1987 when the first
> Detroit techno started coming out, you show someone Drumcode (I'm 
> using Sweedish techno as an example because of it's use of production, 
> sounds, and effects) people would be like what the hell is that?!
> Because nothing at the time sounded like that, 

if you check how some pop music was produced in mid 80's, stuff like 
madonna, michael jackson and so on, you'll notice that people already 
knew how to produce a record; of course, they are in different genre 
but lot of that stuff is still better produced that lots of swedish 
techno (granted, haven't heard that a lot lately, thank something for 
that) in terms of mixing and sound selection; there's plenty of 
dynamics, very kicking drums and lots of space in the mix. stuff that 
you don't hear nowadays often. and go back and check late 80's skinny 
puppy, they have had some really good engineer mixing and mastering 
their music. something you don't hear in that era house or techno, just 
to compare; they were sound- and production-wise some 5-8 years ahead 
of techno.

now, of course those people would be like "oh wtf is this" but would 
they think it's futuristic? really. my _guess_ is that they would say 
that what is this rubbish, it doesn't have any groove (remember we are 
talking about electro-producers here).
 
> > for me cybotron's "clear" -compilation still sounds very futuristic at
> > the times, even though the music is ~20 years old.
> 
> It has a futuristic 'retro' vibe.

right.
 

sakke
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