I would agree that "traditional" DJs listening to mixes done in things
like Ableton will try to copy some of the techniques they hear, and that
this will also help the traditional form of mixing to progress and
absorb new ideas. For example, the first time I heard proper booty music
was back in 1996 when I got a tape from 12 Tech Mob - the tape had been
recorded using multitracking and various other tricks, but at the time I
didn't know - I thought it was a straight mix.

So off I went, spending the next few years gathering booty and
ghetto-tech records and attempting to emulate the frenetic multi-layered
action you get on the mix tape. When I eventually found out that the mix
was not recorded live, of course, I realised I'd been wasting my time,
but in the process of trying to do the whole thing live I'd learnt a
whole bunch of new tricks and had generally upped the standard of my
mixing, which was a good thing. And did it make me value the tape any
less? No! It was just as enjoyable a listening experience, whether it
had been put together by NASA or by a demented child with sticky tape.

I definitely don't think straight-turntable mixing is dead, and won't be
for a long time. And when I say "long time", I'm speaking in
generational terms, not "the next few years". Even if the future sees us
all with ableton/final scratch and so on within about a five years, the
fact of the matter will remain that if your basic track selection skills
are lacking then you won't do very well.

Brendan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 23 May 2003 12:05
> To: Brendan Nelson
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
> 
> 
> 
> i agree with brendans post below. the software approach only becomes
> invalid when the mix is presented in a trad 2x1200 and a 
> mixer way (like a
> lot of these main stream protooled juke-box style mixes)
> 
> i was listening to the megamix on the "techno 1 - the new dance sound"
> compilation the other day and noticed (over)use of the spin 
> back which i
> guess made a lot of people see that this could be used when 
> mixing in a live (not
> megamix) setting.
> 
> so when a dj hears some interesting approach done in software 
> is he/she
> more likely to try and reproduce this sort of this on decks?
> 
> i think he/she is, so i'm quite excited by all this. it's 
> amazing what can
> be done with a simple sampler, decent eqs and a delay live...this all
> bodes well for the future of djing (as does the use of FS, so 
> adding your
> own edits into the mix).
> 
> i see there's another article in Jockey Slut this month 
> saying that mixing
> records together is an out of date approach. i beg to differ.
> 
> 
> robin...

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