Similarly when I first listened to the derrick may mayday mix I thought it
was live but soon found out it wasn't - as it happens tho I can pull off
quite a few of those tricks live now and Ive always kinda strived to push
the live mixing thing a far as I can.

Peace-out
Marc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brendan Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 2:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
> 
> 
> I would agree that "traditional" DJs listening to mixes done 
> in things like Ableton will try to copy some of the 
> techniques they hear, and that this will also help the 
> traditional form of mixing to progress and absorb new ideas. 
> For example, the first time I heard proper booty music was 
> back in 1996 when I got a tape from 12 Tech Mob - the tape 
> had been recorded using multitracking and various other 
> tricks, but at the time I didn't know - I thought it was a 
> straight mix.
> 
> So off I went, spending the next few years gathering booty 
> and ghetto-tech records and attempting to emulate the 
> frenetic multi-layered action you get on the mix tape. When I 
> eventually found out that the mix was not recorded live, of 
> course, I realised I'd been wasting my time, but in the 
> process of trying to do the whole thing live I'd learnt a 
> whole bunch of new tricks and had generally upped the 
> standard of my mixing, which was a good thing. And did it 
> make me value the tape any less? No! It was just as enjoyable 
> a listening experience, whether it had been put together by 
> NASA or by a demented child with sticky tape.
> 
> I definitely don't think straight-turntable mixing is dead, 
> and won't be for a long time. And when I say "long time", I'm 
> speaking in generational terms, not "the next few years". 
> Even if the future sees us all with ableton/final scratch and 
> so on within about a five years, the fact of the matter will 
> remain that if your basic track selection skills are lacking 
> then you won't do very well.
> 
> Brendan
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 May 2003 12:05
> > To: Brendan Nelson
> > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org
> > Subject: RE: (313) Fw: Dex and FX with Kirk Degiorgio
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > i agree with brendans post below. the software approach 
> only becomes 
> > invalid when the mix is presented in a trad 2x1200 and a mixer way 
> > (like a lot of these main stream protooled juke-box style mixes)
> > 
> > i was listening to the megamix on the "techno 1 - the new 
> dance sound" 
> > compilation the other day and noticed (over)use of the spin 
> back which 
> > i guess made a lot of people see that this could be used when
> > mixing in a live (not
> > megamix) setting.
> > 
> > so when a dj hears some interesting approach done in software
> > is he/she
> > more likely to try and reproduce this sort of this on decks?
> > 
> > i think he/she is, so i'm quite excited by all this. it's
> > amazing what can
> > be done with a simple sampler, decent eqs and a delay 
> live...this all
> > bodes well for the future of djing (as does the use of FS, so 
> > adding your
> > own edits into the mix).
> > 
> > i see there's another article in Jockey Slut this month
> > saying that mixing
> > records together is an out of date approach. i beg to differ.
> > 
> > 
> > robin...
> 

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