"you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers."
Exactly MY point!! Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS & WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -----Original Message----- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:52 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost > -----Original Message----- > From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott > until this stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop > is bad what if just 10% of the people we contacted through > e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of people. And the > sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in > the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also. > > I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott > that may have already started. I would need all the > information,,i.e. facts,,rules and everything to send to > people so they can make an intelkligent decision themselves. > Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind > the lawsuits? > > Ja'Maul Redmond > > PERKINS & WILL > > 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 > Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM > To: jurren baars > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > > >$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? > that's $2 per song!!! > > Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each > artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? > As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does > that affect their chart position? > > I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists > - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately > (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking > out against what the RIAA is doing? > > I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the > pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to > figure out the "game plan", honest!). > > > MEK > > > > > "jurren baars" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: > 313@hyperreal.org > > mail.com> cc: > > Subject: Re: > (313) 12 year > old is sued by the RIAA > 09/10/03 04:31 PM > > > > > > > > > > the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, > read here: > http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 > > some people are fighting back: > http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658&afl =frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus