I strongly agree with the ideas expressed by marc and david. In fact, I would go so far as to say that there must be some independent labels that have benefited greatly as a result of increased file sharing. I can name a number of labels and artists that i have been turned on to due to the trading of their material in digital format. -funky chocolate -ann aimee -psychostasia -music is -rick wade -newworldaquarium -headspace -moods&grooves Because of my exposure to these producers and labels, I avidly hunt down all vinyl releases that I can get my hands on. Just ask my wife... she thinks i'm nuts. :- )
cheers, lrh > > From: "Langsman, Marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/09/11 Thu AM 07:06:47 EDT > To: "'David Powers'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > 'Rc' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > Im totally down with this - I download a fair amount, but if its stuff I > like I'll go buy it [99.9% of the time on vinyl] otherwise it justs gets > deleted from my hd. I also like to keep hold of mp3s of stuff I buy on vinyl > so I can listen on my mp3 player without always having to encode myself or > do a mix with those tunes in. I think the amount I spend on music has > increased on avg due to the huge exposure I get to new material I wouldnt > normally get to hear etc. > > The other thign I really like is the ability to download mp3s of live sets > that you cant buy in the shops. I wouldn't say Im not supporting the artists > though - I have for example some Jeff Mills live mp3 mixes sitting on my > player and although on the surface Jeff doesn't benefit from this > financially I always make the effort to go see him play out and like most > folk on this list I own a large proportion of the axis/purpose maker > catalogue :) > > </2pence> :D marc > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:28 AM > > To: 'Rc'; 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > > > I don't think this is correct. Most heads enjoy owning our > > favorite music in some form, often vinyl for many collectors. > > I personally download tons of music. I also am a vinyl > > junkie. I'm not that fond of ordering over the internet. > > This means, most of what I download, I can't find in my local > > (Chicago) record store. When I happen to download something > > I really like, and find it locally, I will usually buy it on sight. > > > > If I didn't download music, I would still buy the same amount > > of music. There is just so much music out there. However, my > > music buying choices would be less informed. There are > > artists I would not have discovered without downloading. I > > might even buy less, just because I had less of an idea what > > might suit my tastes and where to look for it. I do try to > > avoid buying from major labels on purpose, so I mostly don't > > buy CDs and download most of that type of thing. I > > especially don't like paying inflated prices to a major label > > for anything from an artist who is dead. I might buy a > > used/rare vinyl at a local store of course, but that doesn't > > go to the record company. > > > > You can compete with free by offering a superior, reasonably > > priced, and legitimate product. For me personally, I also > > want to buy a product that doesn't support a corporate agenda > > that is totally counter to my interests as a > > musician/composer, and also my interests as a citizen. > > > > -David > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:37 PM > > To: 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA > > > > that may be true - but this doesn't really effect you does it? > > > > what proportion of the music you buy is aligned with major > > record labels? > > > > it worries me when people use the rationalisation that it's > > only hurting snr. executives from major record labels when > > they download music off p2p programs and then they go and > > download detroit stuff or other stuff which major record > > labels have no rights vested within. Music from composers > > they claim to support but then go and download free of charge? > > > > one thing that's strikingly clear - no matter where the music > > is from, and no matter how much it would normally cost - you > > can't compete with free. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on 11/9/03 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> i'm not sure what to think of all this. > > > well, let's see...the recording industry has flooded the maketplace > > with > > > sh!t which, in reality has no value, overcharged people for it, > > switched to > > > a digital format so that they could screw the craftspeople (not > > artists) who > > > make this stuff...so people decided not to pay for it and > > are now they > > are > > > drowning in it and want to extort a life-jacket from you (the > > consumer)... > > > > > > i think it's great! > > > > > > b > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the > designated recipient(s) named above. 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